UK Music scene and its influences

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Needed a new thread for this:

the bigger question is why does UK music suck so much these days? judging from the press response you'd think there was a massive influx of rather informed groups coming together. instead we have a bunch of derivative half-wit 90s-rock fans masquerading-via-publicist as being fans of whatever early 80s band is in-vogue with the 22-35 year old record-collecting demographic.
-- corey c (c_cosmo...), October 10th, 2006 7:34 AM. (shock of daylight)

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Yeah, I was pondering why thesedays bands tend to name their influences as being "bands everyone's heard of"...
-- mark grout (mark.grou...), October 10th, 2006 9:28 AM. (mark grout)

Or did we really? Whatever happened to namechecking some obscure French militant art-rap combo from 1980?

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

Now let's not turn into Sean Rowley.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

who?

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

He was in Hijack.

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

The new Take That single bears influeneces ranging from Chris Matrin all the way through to Snow Patrol.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

i was channelling Comstock there without intending to.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 11:37 (nineteen years ago)

Take That morelike Take Some Influences From This Decade And Make A Song Out Of Them, amirite?

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

The new Take That single bears influences ranging from Timbaland to Landtimba.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

Well, what I meant was that back in the day, Tom of the Thompson Twins stated one of his influences was some obscure Brazilian group(s).

Not that it improved his music.

Or maybe it did! Can you imagine how bad it *could* have been?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

Take That have a new single?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

The Thompson Twins had mouths and could speak through them?

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

xpost, yes it's a version of Lloyd Cole's "Patience"

or something.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

"Oh yeh we're really influenced by the Velvet Underground and Joy Divison" SO WHAT FUCK OFF DIEEEEEEEEEEE!

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

The Thompson Twins warned us not to mess with Doctor Dream! If only the so-called pop stars of today could convey such a telling and relevant message to their young, impressionable audiences!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

For the last ten years I've avoided all new British music featuring the sound of the electric guitar and that's served me fine.

― tiss (tiss), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

Pity. Girls Aloud are a fine band.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

Well, no filter is going to be perfect but, on balance, no-electric-guitars is about as good as it gets.

― tiss (tiss), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

just Keane and James Blunt for you then eh?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

Who and who?

― tiss (tiss), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

No, the Who have guitars.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

Thankfully, they also had them well before the imposition of my N-E-G rule.

― tiss (tiss), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

N-E-G rules are how Nazi Germany started.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

I've always thought kudos should go to Bjork for the sheer act of being able not to include a guitar ONCE on any of her albums in a career decade by now.

― Max Blazevic (kitaj), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Astonishing. I don't know how she managed it.

(Worst thread ever already)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe her albums would have been better if she had.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

RAMZA AWN TO THREAD

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

DOES JUDY HENSKE MEAN NOTHING TO YOU?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

The current UK scene is fine, even though it was even better 10 years ago.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

The current ruler of North Korea is fine, even though he was even better 10 years ago.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Geir Hongro knows nothing literally about music.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Geir is OTM this time

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

actually i think it's pretty shit now, not fine

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

The UK music scene is pretty shit these days indeed, though the last few years were strong, now this is the hangover, as was 1996 for 1994-95.

― zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

nah

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

yeah

― zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

yeah.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Georgie Fame, right?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

1996 was a great year! Orbital! Underworld! Um, Nearly God! DJ Shadow! Who's an American!

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

'96 = hangover = you had lousy taste

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

same time next month?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm glad that all of them disappeared. OK, DJ Shadow has a new album, does anyone care?

― zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

WHY GEIR HONGRO SUCKS IN 06- IT'S THE MONEY

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

the bands you liked in 94/95 are still going? (xpost)

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

'96 = hangover = you had lousy taste
I didn't say there were no good records/bands then, but mainstream British rock/pop were worse than one or two years before.
Fuzzy Logic, If You're Feeling Sinister, Tigermilk, Emperor Tomato Ketchup - to name a few good LPs.

― zeus (zeus), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

lock thread

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Granted you've got "Insides" and "Sinister". But I see 96 as this kind of experiment gone wrong. Everyone went, right Britpop's gone to shit - what's next? Then they found Garbage, Kula Shaker, Space, Marilyn Manson and Placebo who became inexplicably huge but soon proved to be hugely embarrasing. Then you had Trip Hop (Zzzzz) and Big Beat (Double Zzzzzz). 1994 had albums that are still considered great classics - Parklife, Holy Bible, Snivilisation, Music For A Jilted Generation, SAW2 - to mention just a few. 1995 was Britpop before the rot really set in - I Should Coco, The Great Escape (arguably good), I Care Because You Do, loads of stuff.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

you're no better than Geir, dude

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

defend 1996

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

Manic Street Preachers, Orbital, Aphex Twin... BRITPOP?? >:x

― eh (fandango), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

I prefer your sitcom scripts to your music writing, DL.

― Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure there's a (heavily synth-ed out) electric guitar on "Human Behaivour", and certainly on the Carcass remix of Isobel and others fwiw...

― eh (fandango), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Electric guitar = Zzzzzz......

Boring!

― GLC (ZakAce), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

1996 was better than 1994-95. 94-95 may have had the exciting "scene" thing happening, but 1996 had better tunes and better, more detailed and sophisticated, and pop-oriented, production. 1996 was more about pure melodic pop, not trying to pack the good tunes into "rock".

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

dog latin is like a bot for starting this kind of thread.

― benrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

I prefer your sitcom scripts to your music writing, DL.
-- Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (juror...), October 10th, 2006 4:49 PM. (Dom Passantino)

boo hoo

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

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