Does this mean Robert Armani finally gets his rightful minimal props?
― Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 12 October 2006 03:15 (nineteen years ago)
Robert Armani - 'Circus Bells' (of COURSE)DJ Sneak - 'Operation SNEAK' (KILLER)Lil Louis - 'Video Clash' (mixed into Audion)Paul Johnson - 'Give me ecstasy'
But NOT 'Work that motherfucker' which just doesn't seem to sound right.
― Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 12 October 2006 03:26 (nineteen years ago)
― josh. (disco stu), Thursday, 12 October 2006 04:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Baaderonixx in the year of the locusts (baaderonixx), Thursday, 12 October 2006 07:10 (nineteen years ago)
― ewmy (ewmy), Thursday, 12 October 2006 07:24 (nineteen years ago)
:)
circuit breaker, hit hard, basement rats, fuse box, score board
― -- (688), Thursday, 12 October 2006 07:52 (nineteen years ago)
― Baaderonixx in the year of the locusts (baaderonixx), Thursday, 12 October 2006 07:54 (nineteen years ago)
i do have dreams of 'me & u' segueing into fairmont's 'gazebo' though.
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 12 October 2006 08:02 (nineteen years ago)
― a (rslvd), Thursday, 12 October 2006 08:15 (nineteen years ago)
― Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 12 October 2006 09:03 (nineteen years ago)
― a (rslvd), Thursday, 12 October 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)
― -- (688), Thursday, 12 October 2006 11:17 (nineteen years ago)
this would be so so hot
― jelkino (jergins), Friday, 13 October 2006 00:25 (nineteen years ago)
― Jena (JenaP), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)
― eh (fandango), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)
― tylero (tylero), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)
― Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 00:58 (nineteen years ago)
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― eh (fandango), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Jena (JenaP), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 07:46 (nineteen years ago)
― braveclub (braveclub), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)
― Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 09:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 10:06 (nineteen years ago)
Magda's is enjoyable, but it's nicer for listening to in the background as it wiggles around than being any kind of "club" mix.
― eh (fandango), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 11:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 04:13 (nineteen years ago)
― a (rslvd), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 05:56 (nineteen years ago)
― a (rslvd), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 06:07 (nineteen years ago)
[turns into wacky scientist in Repo Man] Not...at...all! The middle section feels like a submarine dive. Total aquatic bliss. I don't care about the end, and the beginning is too Dimitri-circa-1994 (I tend to skip the first 10 minutes or so.)
― Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 06:32 (nineteen years ago)
― a (rslvd), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 06:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)
Redshape - Pink Dust (bright & busy)Auto-Repeat - What Turned Itself (handclaps! on the 8th beat, "ya gotta... whatever turns you on..")Tobias. - Below Houston (lovely twinkling keys, crusty filter sweeps)Yassin & Arne - Bleepy Creep (Cassy Remix) (like thumping minimal Kelis heavy breathing on your neck? - SO hot)
not warm, wet and housey? and those are all middle section tracks, with other breakouts of undeniable gorgeousness at the start/ends. I would agree she has very dry tracks, but she alternates them all the way through the mix, which creates tension but not rigidity it's not a teeth-grinding take on minimal for me.
I'm very surprised people aren't feeling this so much. It's not "wet" in that melodic minmal/electro/housey way no, it's CRISP, JACKING and SWEATY!
This is probably redundant but give it a properly LOUD play, on a real stereo at least once to appreciate the underlying, steady THROB of this mix.
― fade into goo (fandango), Thursday, 19 October 2006 00:17 (nineteen years ago)
― fade into goo (fandango), Thursday, 19 October 2006 00:26 (nineteen years ago)
Mind you I've always been a bit underwhelmed by Melchior Productions too. I'm not sure if I'm really into house that's so... reduced... without something else in there to replace what's taken out.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 19 October 2006 01:32 (nineteen years ago)
But...but...there's this unique sense of space left in Melchior Productions (at least i always thought he was aiming for this as per his mate Baby Ford, sort of light space vs. dark space....erm...Philip probably knows what I'm talking about :)
― Omar (Omar), Thursday, 19 October 2006 06:33 (nineteen years ago)
what's with all these mixes which are deathly dull for the first half and amazing in the second half? alex smoke's scifihifi vol 2 does this too. as did luciano's!
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 19 October 2006 07:30 (nineteen years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 19 October 2006 07:31 (nineteen years ago)
― fade into goo (fandango), Thursday, 19 October 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)
― new new wave of new wave new rave (fandango), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)
is house back? Not just deep house but todd terry, paul johnson, armando..
― mmmm, Monday, 14 January 2008 22:22 (eighteen years ago)
yes
― Ronan, Monday, 14 January 2008 22:29 (eighteen years ago)
best revive ever
― winston, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 03:27 (eighteen years ago)
It never left, you just followed shit trends for 6 years.
― Display Name, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 03:31 (eighteen years ago)
is house back lol.
― the table is the table, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 03:42 (eighteen years ago)
"It never left, you just followed shit trends for 6 years.
-- Display Name"
amen.
speaking of dance mania, i just ordered this off of ebay for $10 sealed earlier today:
http://www.discogs.com/release/490481
i can't wait to get that one in the mail. i love the artwork and aesthetic of dance mania so fucking much, probably my favorite label for that kind of stuff. i love the art on this CD:
http://www.discogs.com/release/579514
plus the dance mania "ghetto house music" t-shirt i have, i guess i'm something of a dance mania fan boy ;)
― pipecock, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 03:50 (eighteen years ago)
Ya'll Dance Mania fan-peoples should get that new Dj Deeon and Slugo - Ghetto Classics 12"!
― Romeo Jones, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 04:01 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.discogs.com/release/1137957
and I will co-sign on Ghetto Classics, that whole record is gold.
― Display Name, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 16:40 (eighteen years ago)
brutal revive
― elan, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 16:55 (eighteen years ago)
Seriously, I come back to this Cassy mix all the time. I love the perlon/tuning spork and todd terry/paul johnson, old and new vibe.
― mmmm, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 21:31 (eighteen years ago)
cassy's own productions are getting better and better. 'poem' was awesome enough, but i can't get enough of those vox on 'april'...
― lex pretend, Sunday, 10 August 2008 11:46 (seventeen years ago)
idle blues: what a tune..
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 11 December 2008 08:48 (seventeen years ago)
ive become more convinced that dance mania is the greatest label of all time and dj deeon the greatest producer of all time ... fight me
― ok (D-40), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 19:02 (five months ago)
I agree with you
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 19:10 (five months ago)
alarmingly little Content in the ilx archives about the true breadth of this label honestly
I do kind of feel like a lot of the appreciation for it I sometimes see out on the internet is 1. how humorously lewd is it, and 2. how much does it overlap with the somewhat more serious Techno sound
I think the overlap with Relief records is almost more interesting, to me, anyway -- where the grooves are somehow both hypnotic and unpredictable (which is a seeming contradiction in some ways), like they get locked into a groove and then these small rhythmic changes that feel kind of 'offbeat' make you reassess your perspective of the whole song ... like the 'magic eye trick' weve been arguing about in the luda thread but as a genre
― ok (D-40), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 19:22 (five months ago)
Noooo, turn back!
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 19:24 (five months ago)
lol. I dont actually want to argue about it but you know what im talking about right
― ok (D-40), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 19:24 (five months ago)
in *this* context i think im saying something you will readily agree with!!
― ok (D-40), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 19:25 (five months ago)
i'm thinking of stuff like DJ rush where the patterns are a bit unpredictable & polythmic and so on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvPYlS7Whpw
― ok (D-40), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 19:28 (five months ago)
I dont actually want to fight ITT I wont disrespect dance mania that way !! nonetheless I love the way aspects of this sound offer so much rhythmic variance in the house template which typically I don't think ppl perceive as being so polyrhythmic or just describe as 'four on the floor'
― ok (D-40), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 19:36 (five months ago)
Haha ok I think that's true, but I think that's common to a lot of minimal techno (not a lot of musical signposts to dictate where the phrase starts, so yeah it can be heard in different ways and that can be a cool thing).
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 19:43 (five months ago)
oh yeah I don't think its *exclusive* to this stuff exactly, although I think how chicago house went about it in this era was very unique. (there are current producers like robert bergman who kind of carry on this chicago-specific derived affect I think). Also obviously uk funky or tribal house would have their own ways of going about it
I was actually listening to some recent Traxx (from chicago keeping the Sound Alive) records and thinking about how the snare kind of reminded me of some UK funky stuff, or "township funk" or even "pon de floor", despite having very ron hardy influenced origins
― ok (D-40), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 19:47 (five months ago)
another thing that I noticed going through a lot of it is robert armani is a genius but also he kind of seems to typically avoid all "offbeat" (for lack of a better etc) stuff altogether despite being totally in the mix. the 'offbeat' sound is obviously not *defining* of the label or time but it is a really cool strain of it.
― ok (D-40), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 19:49 (five months ago)
Here's the Traxx record i'm talking abouthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QigPU9g3gT0
here's another beautiful Relief release that I think does something really cool rhythmically in this style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOzXjktKa-I
^^^A cool thing if you have this record is that it's somehow set up at the very end of the song so hits the label and resets, it just loops forever and never ends, extremely cool trick
― ok (D-40), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 19:56 (five months ago)
(the traxx one is a little misleading in this convo I suppose because i dont think its an especially rhythmically 'off' example but it does feel like the snare is kind of the 'lead instrument' in a way we dont associate w four on the floor, I guess part of what im reaching for here is an idea of the percussion being a lead instrument in part)
― ok (D-40), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 20:04 (five months ago)
feel like that is true for a decent bit of house and techno, tho maybe more so the hardware stuff from the nineties compared to today.
nice tune, that gene farris.
― LocalGarda, Tuesday, 12 August 2025 20:08 (five months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD_73f61ldM
Paul Johnson - Groove Melody
untouchable
― saer, Tuesday, 12 August 2025 20:23 (five months ago)
Freaks in Front, and Not Normal both really nice but Groove Melody is too far ahead
― saer, Tuesday, 12 August 2025 20:25 (five months ago)
this one's incredible, Brandy sample, I kind of wondered if this is where Eris Drew's name originated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXVF6M-G6DA
― ok (D-40), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 20:38 (five months ago)
the early jana rush single def has a dj rush esque feel to it as well. I dont think there were really non-dance mania/relief/chicago house beats that sounded anything like this rhythmically
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYGtrFcYwUA
― ok (D-40), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 20:57 (five months ago)
I think what I like about the tricky rhythms approach to house music I detect in dance mania stuff is that it's kind of a common thread here that while not present on every record feels somewhat unique to the label (and adjacent labels of the era like cosmic or relief or aqua boogie or etc) but obviously the overall 'sound' of dance mania is really incredibly diverse ... dreamy one moment and brutal the next, funny one moment and melancholic the next, tricky and cerebral and blunt and uncompromising, there really is a 'world on the head of pin' eclecticism here that spans emotional and textural space
― ok (D-40), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 23:56 (five months ago)
I think one of my favs of the lewd ones is dj lil tal's "Questions"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTZ_9w5L71w
and at the other end of the spectrum, gant man started djing in his early teens and one of his first releases for the label -- I calculate he must have been 15 or so?? was a juke version of the three stooges theme!! I love that lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujwu8y6wHxI
― ok (D-40), Tuesday, 12 August 2025 23:59 (five months ago)
love this dj deeon track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvZCuN8-2uM
― brimstead, Wednesday, 13 August 2025 01:58 (five months ago)
I was listening to this (amazing) 12" (not even my fav song on it) and thinking about how obviously this sound must have been percolating in the early kanye inspiration pool ... certainly sounds much more like 00s 'ye beats than anything made in new york or wherever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idf_yNjordM
― ok (D-40), Friday, 15 August 2025 04:22 (five months ago)
I still drop Traxmen - ‘Playing With A Rubber Band’ in sets from time to time :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp7kOisi7GQ
― pronounced with an ‘umpty’ (Willl), Friday, 15 August 2025 07:27 (five months ago)
great song
― ok (D-40), Monday, 18 August 2025 18:36 (five months ago)