Pantera - Vulger Display of Power: best all around metal album ever

cowboys from hell is a much better rounded album, with better songs. i havent heard any of the early pre-anselmo glam lps they did. the pictures are hilarious though.

The first 'one,' Chaki? I do believe you mean the first 'several.' The site's already gone over the view limit for today, but go here for more details.

I'll give dear ol' Diamond Darrell and company credit for bootstrapping, but that's about it.

BY DEMONNNNS! BE DRIVEN!!!!!!

It means nothing to me, oh Vienna.

probably Metallica's Master of Puppets. probably the best non- alienating thrash album.

failing that: Reign In Blood/Seasons In The Abyss, Cowboys From Hell, some Iron Maiden album, or if you happen to like Bon Jovi - Metallica's Black Album.

and all the so called stoner metal bands rehashing sabbath, Electric Wizard, Earth, Melvins (grunge, whatever)

i haven't listened to Pantera since highschool (90-94), but i remember my adolecent self quite enjoying it

If not Sabbath, then Emperor's Anthems To The Welkin At Dusk.

Why "Vulgar Display Of Power" is so revered is beyond me. It's only got two or three decent riffs, and as a whole it's just a mess of tedious grooves with annoying vocals. One of the many "fad of the day" hardcore-with-thrash-riffs crossover albums that faded very quickly (like Machine Head a few years later, and Slipknot four years after that...I detect a pattern!). I see tons of these at the second hand bins.

yah dude! DOWN! im DOWN for DOWN!

I was a big fan of "Cowboys From Hell" as the band perfectly melded the hard rock that they were known for with the burgeoning thrash underground. It could be argued that Pantera was the first of the Metallica-influenced bands - Metallica meets Van Halen.

I saw the band a lot back in the day - first time was before "Cowboys" came out. The band was in NY to do some Atco stuff and wound up being pushed onto the Sanctury / Fate's Warning / Dead On show at L'Amours. The got bumped ahead of Dead On (anyone remember them?) and the guys from that band were backstage whining that the president of their label was there (the same label that signed Technotronic!) and they were getting bumped back for this other band.

I also saw them *opening* for Prong, Suicidal Tendencies and a lot more that would make us all laugh in retrospect. They worked their asses off even after getting the record deal and I had no problem with them getting quite successful. I felt the earned it.

However as the band decided that they had to get harder and harder, and Phil said more and more stupid things, they lost the fun and I lost interest.

I saw them a bunch of times, but rarely revisit their music now that I'm old and stuff.

they're not solely to blame but contributed substantially to the one-chord riff thing.

I remeber a kerrang cover which had Phil and Skin from Skunk Anansie with tehir arms round each other, and the headline was all "Anselmo not actually a racist shocker!" Which I don't think he was per se, just a slightly dim, opinionated hick. His lyrics (as far as one can discern, they're fairly oblique) are more about deeply outmoded Southern ideas of masculinity than anything else. Oh, and that old metal/adolescent bugbear, REFUSING TO FUCKING COMPROMISE.

I don't think he expressed his alleged views lyrically, much like aforementioned Condemned 84, who never had any racist lyrics but similarly had a lot of bad anecdotes about them. Heard enough stories though. But I'm one of those "it's about the music" douchebags. I have to draw a line somewhere though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC9oPCrGus0

if you realy understod the soulful power of dimebags music you wouldnt say that bullcrap

OTM. If I thought Pantera were any good, I definitely wouldn't call 'em terrible! But what the hell, I'll give Damageplan the benefit of doubt, having never heard 'em.

OK, that's a bit dodgy.

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Anselmo had a habit of making white supremacist statements on stage - god knows if it was the drugs talking or him.

I like all the pricks in the comments saying "No, no, he's saying WITH power."

Those comments are like BBC Have Your Say meets the American South.

Just found out he had a side project called 'Viking Crown', a name with, erm, connotations.

do people *really* think reign in blood is the best metal album ever? it sounds kinda weak nowadays, production wise....plus, i kinda ended up realizing that peak-metallica is way better than peak-slayer, but people just like to knock metallica down a notch cuz they are douchebags and they actually wrote songs....it's cooler to like slayer cuz they are so badass and all.

it's cooler to like slayer cuz they are slayer.

Possibly, although say Celtic Frost could have similar connotations and AFAIK, erm, doesn't.

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I really do prefer Slayer to peak-Metallica. Personal taste I guess, but I've tried to get into Master of Puppets etc and I do like them OK but it's no contest for me.

r.i.p.

http://www.thestranger.com/lineout/files/2006/06/Metallica-CliffBurton.jpg

i got fucked up to the day dimebag left this erth. its like why dimbag and not saddam? this planit is fucked up and its like god is a crul ringmaster

Haha, this guy was great.

He liked dimbag best because he was intersting.

just saw a vid where he points at the confed flag and says he's "PROUD OF MY SOUTHERN HERITAGE, but I embrace all people!"

Dimebag was super nice the one time I met him - a friend was tending bar in the afternoon when Dimebag showed up, bought everyone a bunch of drinks, sang Black Sabbath a cappella in the men's room and left a $100 tip.

the love for dimebag always felt genuine and heartfelt. people loved his shit. phil is just a lunkhead. he just wanted to be henry rollins when he grew up. and that ain't no role model there. two bands i never ever feel the desire to hear. rollins band and pantera. how come henry never gets any blame for nu-metal. can't blame phil and mike patton and ministry for EVERYTHING.

Also blame Helmet.

Anselmo isn't a patch on Rollins' ass.

yeah, helmet too. there are lots of people to blame actually.

Rollins is a very smart guy. (I've interviewed him three times now, and it's been a pleasure every time.) Anselmo is a fucking idiot. And you haven't plumbed the depths of his idiocy unless you saw Superjoint Ritual live at Ozzfest like I did. Ninety seconds of music followed by five minutes of stoned rambling. Repeat.

mind funk never gets any blame. or love/hate but they maybe deserve some too.

god, Phil Anselmo is such a retard. yeah, i remember seeing Pantera at Ozzfest around 2000 (they kicked ass that night, incidentally) and some douche in the audience held up a rebel flag banner or something and Anselmo was like, "raise that flag HIGH". the friend i was with was offended (understandably) and she left to go get a smoke for the rest of the set. i felt a little embarrassed. anyway, dude's a mushmouthed moron who doesn't seem to hold a coherent view on anything.

that aside, they were actually really good that night

I was at that Ozzfest, un. Holmdel '04, right-I've heard you mention that before. The next three bands in order eliminated Anselmo from my brainwaves: Slayer, Priest, Sabbath.

you are old

shedding skin is pretty rad

going to listen to 're-inventing the steel' now

I saw Pantera live twice - once on their first big national tour, opening for Suicidal Tendencies and Exodus, and once at Roseland, in '97. They impressed me the first time, but not enough to say "these guys are gonna own the world in a year" the way I did the first time I saw Slipknot. The openers the second time were Clutch and Neurosis, both of whom were better than the headliners. Pantera's sound was terrible that night, like a huge sheet of tin rattling and being torn with metal shears for two hours. I don't recall any particularly idiotic remarks from Anselmo either night.

i should get pantera's greatest hits. they seem like a band that i could do with just the hitzzz

phil responds to dimebags death. this guy is an idiot. lots of lols here. good voice though!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=912690621

I have The Best of Pantera: Far Beyond the Great Southern Cowboys' Vulgar Hits, M@tt. Pretty decent listen, see if you can still get the one that comes with the bonus DVD of all their videos. This Love is probably the best of them, but it's just fun to watch Phil go from punk/skater haircut to scary skinhead to Grizzly Adams within the space of a few vids.

tracklist:

1 Cowboys from Hell 4:06
2 Cemetery Gates 7:03
3 Mouth for War 3:57
4 Walk 5:16
5 This Love 6:34
6 I'm Broken 4:24
7 Becoming 3:07
8 5 Minutes Alone 5:51
9 Planet Caravan 4:04
10 Drag the Waters 4:57
11 Where You Come From (live) 5:13
12 Cat Scratch Fever 3:49
13 Revolution is My Name 5:19
14 I'll Cast a Shadow 5:19
15 Goddamn Electric 4:57
16 Hole in the Sky 4:15

no fucking hostile no credibility

yeah that is a sticking point.

also, wtf @ the original Far Beyond Driven cover, had never seen that before. Thanks wikipedia.

I've been listening to the last two studio albums since yesterday, 'cause (even though I saw 'em in '97, which was on the <I>Trendkill</I> tour) I stopped buying their stuff after <I>FBD</I>. They hold up pretty well, I think. I agree that the best-of should have included "Fucking Hostile" (and their version of Poison Idea's "The Badge" from the <I>Crow</I> soundtrack), btw.

Second to Randy Rhodes, Dimebag was probably the most innovative and most all around interesting guitar players in metal history. Just saying.

If not for the unfortunate glaring omission of "Fucking Hostile," that best of actually looks pretty good.

There is another best of album called Reinventing Hell from rhino that does, in fact, include "Fucking Hostile". Track listing is pretty decent on that one, too.

Downloaded this album after having not heard it for about 12 years, so fucking classic

also re-listened to far beyond driven, slaughtered is prob my fave song of theirs

"Slaughtered" shreds. "Primal Concrete Sledge2 is probably my favourite song of theirs.

Shedding Skin is the choice cut from FBD.

ANY STREETWISE SON OF A BITCH KNOWS DONT FUCK WITH THIS

http://www.six-something.org/images/Pantera-power_metal.jpg

kind of lol mostly sad

wow look at vinnie

he looks like a gummi bear

Still, if you want your Pyromania or Hysteria with a lot more oomph, I am the Night and Power Metal are where it is at. Never cared much for the rest they did.

I'm just listening to these two, that's why the thread bump.

i got fucked up to the day dimebag left this erth. its like why dimbag and not saddam? this planit is fucked up and its like god is a crul ringmaster

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