chinese pop music (no hk)2006-7

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does anyone else get to hear this twentyfour seven days a week?? fuck.

song of the summer 阿牛 (a niu. translation: mr. cow??? i'm not sure exactly what 阿 really does), 桃花朵朵开 (tao hua duo duo kai, a peach flower opens). that first WO ZAI ZHER punctuated by the drums coming in still makes me freak out. it was still the ring on my phone until the middle of last month.

i wrote down the song name on countless shreds of pengcheng labels in clubs to pass to the dj to hear the remix. man... the remix... when the beat drops out and you get the chorus, everyone there yelling it together, good stuff.

333333333333 (33333), Thursday, 2 November 2006 06:22 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.supermars.com/stars1/blog/jolin/images/jlog_l.jpg

does the rest of the world know about jolin (蔡依林, cai yi lin)?? everyone i know copped the bootleg weeks before the real cd dropped, then went to real stores to cop the authentic thing.

i love her because it's impossible not to and all the music is so carefully constructed and sugary sweet as fuck and so beautiful and i love telling ktv girls that they look like cai yilin.

and um... jay chou. jay chou is inescapable and i never want to see his stupid fucking face again or hear his shitty rapping. every girl in this city has a stickerphoto of her best friend and jay chou on the back of her cellphone. everyone wears shirts that just say JAY under a silhouette of his gay-ass head. i learned the local dialect's equivalent of cocksucker just so i could tell bubbly 大学生 girls that he's one when they ask me if i've ever heard of him.

333333333333 (33333), Thursday, 2 November 2006 06:26 (eighteen years ago)

my actual song of the summer was 美观 (mei guan). i still have no clue what that second character means. my dictionary doesn't have it and everyone i ask says, "oooohhhh, ummmmmm, it must mean 'land.'" so, "beautiful land." (the first few times i heard it, i thought it was 美国, what we call america here, and it would mean "beautiful land," too).

crazy hoarse hiccuping singer and traditional traditional chinese instruments/melody/everything, total singalong joint. video starring singer, a darktanned bald smiley dude, as donkeycart busdriver, ferrying primary school kids in tracksuits back and forth and to adventure, while singing his song about some beautiful land (maybe) and possibly trying to fuck their teacher. so so so good and only my foreigner friends actually like it and don't tell me to fuck off when i put the vcd in.

333333333333 (33333), Thursday, 2 November 2006 06:53 (eighteen years ago)

http://super.aweb.com.cn/upload/20061207993126.jpg

孙小宝 (sun xiao bao), possibly the name of the guy that is possibly responsible for the 美观 song.

333333333333 (33333), Thursday, 2 November 2006 06:57 (eighteen years ago)

Is there a Chinese myspace or something where we can listen to these people?

I.M. From Hollywood (i_m_from_hollywood), Thursday, 2 November 2006 07:00 (eighteen years ago)

...or maybe you can find youtube links?

I.M. From Hollywood (i_m_from_hollywood), Thursday, 2 November 2006 07:02 (eighteen years ago)

fuck yeah. http://mp3.baidu.com/

see if this works for 美观

http://bbs.yutian.gov.cn/UploadFile/2006-10/Y2JjamZmampjaGdkZ21obWgy.mp3

333333333333 (33333), Thursday, 2 November 2006 07:05 (eighteen years ago)

http://mp3.baidu.com/m?f=ms&tn=baidump3&ct=134217728&lf=&rn=&word=%CC%D2%BB%A8%B6%E4%B6%E4%BF%AA&lm=0

333333333333 (33333), Thursday, 2 November 2006 07:06 (eighteen years ago)

youtube for 桃花朵朵开 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U71qvueVuCo

333333333333 (33333), Thursday, 2 November 2006 07:09 (eighteen years ago)

tons of jolin shit: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%E8%94%A1%E4%BE%9D%E6%9E%97&search=Search

333333333333 (33333), Thursday, 2 November 2006 07:14 (eighteen years ago)

if jay chou is jay-z, i'm with you! what an asshole!

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

i like jay chou, whatever. also i think that character 观(guan) mean 'view', but like yeah in terms of land, so it's like "beautiful view" like what you say looking at a mountain or something.

sublime frequency (sublime frequency), Thursday, 2 November 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

Can someone school me on some of the differences between mainland China, Taiwan, and Hong Kong pop music...

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Friday, 3 November 2006 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

In general (may be a little dated):

HK pop is like mainstream Asian pop. Most famous popstars, who favor boy band sounds, or Rick Astley, or Richard Marx-y sounds, are Hong Kong popstars.

Taiwanese pop is like HK pop, but less glamour, less sheen. The Taiwanese also favor Korean and Japanese influences more than HK or China. That said, there are a few big Taiwanese pop stars.

Chinese pop music--even more rough around the edges, but the indie scene, such as it is, is more refreshing and punkier and just more raw.

NB: There are clearly cultural and socio-economic biases for an Chinese(such as myself) when thinking about the difference between these different scenes.

Jubalique (Jubalique), Friday, 3 November 2006 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

my song of the summer: ????

fivedads (daggerlee), Friday, 3 November 2006 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

err, "bu de bu ai" since ilm won't display my font

fivedads (daggerlee), Friday, 3 November 2006 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

This has the makings of a great thread.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 November 2006 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

i love how this thread title kindof implies that "hk" = "homo"

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 3 November 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, 观 = view, etc. my school has a ZHI 观 department, audio visual. fuck i have no more suggestions, though. i found a foreign music store by the university here and i've been listening to linkin park and new nas mp3s.

333333333333 (33333), Saturday, 4 November 2006 06:32 (eighteen years ago)

what would you class as pop music? I guess some of the alternative stuff in China really isn't that pop anyway, in which case, Hong Kong's music isn't just the shiny canto pop stuff.

jellybean (jellybean), Saturday, 4 November 2006 10:29 (eighteen years ago)

Not sure I follow the logic, but I'd classify pop as the usual solo, "less band/instruments, more singer/singers" pop with a happy, shiny boy/girl on a variety show at 2pm on Saturday. Right. Now.

Not that different than American pop music, as opposed to rock, indie, experimental, slacker, etc. I've yet to hear a lot of emo there, but maybe I'm not getting it.

I guess on the whole, if I were walking down the street in HK and popped into a record store, I'd hear shiny HK-pop, there just is not as much of an indie scene in HK a year ago when I was there last. China is just rawer to me--it seems like some of the bands were really just learning and experimenting (excluding the shiny China pop as well.)

But categorically, I'm sure there's some HK indie, just as there's some shiny Chinese stuff. Wong Faye comes to mind.

Jubalique (Jubalique), Saturday, 4 November 2006 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

Admittedly I don't know much about the Chinese pop scene, I haven't spent long enough in any major cities to spend time going into record stores. My impression of the music that people in China listen to seems to be the same as the Hong Kong pop stars. But this is from a few years ago.

jellybean (jellybean), Sunday, 5 November 2006 11:05 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sure there's some HK indie

I actually bought an EP of some Chinese indie-rock band on a whim at Amoeba a few months back - it's actually pretty good!

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=55933667

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Sunday, 5 November 2006 19:06 (eighteen years ago)


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