I think my iTunes library is getting too big to manage

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
I'm pushing 28,000 songs right now.

It's getting hard to remember everything that's on there.

At one point I was militant against attaching genre to my albums, so I constrained everything to only four or five things...turns out that would have (possibly) made my life easier today.

WTF?

don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 2 November 2006 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

Seriously, I'm wondering if half of my library disappeared if I'd even notice. There's a lot of obscure shit on there that I'm glad I have. You know, if I could actually remember what it was or what it was called.

don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 2 November 2006 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

quit showin' off!

banrique (blueski), Thursday, 2 November 2006 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

xpost: WELL DONE YR COCK IS BIGGER THAN MY COCK

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Thursday, 2 November 2006 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

Can you tell us what's in your library (preferably one song per post)?

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 November 2006 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

I've just realised that my own ILEpitaph has finally been created... :-/

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Thursday, 2 November 2006 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha ha (xpost)

banrique (blueski), Thursday, 2 November 2006 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

Although I've got tons of CDs, I have only about 4,000 songs on my iPod.
Even still, I feel like songs get "lost" on there, even with so many genre playlists.
One good way to make sure you're not missing anything is to make a smart playlist of songs that have been played 0-2 times.

Jim M (jmcgaw), Thursday, 2 November 2006 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

dude, it ain't showin' off. I'm 38 years old and if you collect music for 30 years this is what happens. I thought I was being fairly in control of my collection destiny until the blog explosion a few years ago and suddenly I was picking up rarities that I couldn't afford on eBay or hadn't even heard of. Hell, if I had all the CDs that I've sold back over the years (prior to ripping them to my hard drive), my collection would be even more sickeningly stupid.

I'm not really convinced that I need more than 5,000 songs.

don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 2 November 2006 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

You must have a lot of short songs, because the 80GB iPod supposedly holds only 20,000.

Jim M (jmcgaw), Thursday, 2 November 2006 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

I only need 5000 songs; my problem is that that list of 5000 changes daily.

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 November 2006 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

it's not on my iPod Jim. It's my iTMLibrary on my hard drive.

But you brought up a good point: I can't get all my shit on my iPod.

Android OTM.

don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 2 November 2006 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

Don't got an iPod but now I think my mp3 collection is close to 20,000. I keep all albums in tracks/"artist a-z"/artist/album. Then I have a directory divided by genre (and sub-genre in the case of dance music) for miscellaneous tracks. Then I have a genre-divvied "Various Artists" folder for compilations. Does me fine although it's a pain having to open each folder to see what's inside.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 November 2006 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

Seems like that would be more time organizing (& tagging) your music than actually listening to it?

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

"well i acquired them all legally, that's for sure"

banrique (blueski), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

Not that this should turn into a dick waving contest but mine is about 50000 tracks large. I don't feel too bothered about it if I don't know everything that's there. It's much like my CD collection. I probably don't listen to most of it very much but it's nice to know it's close to hand should I ever wish to.

No genre distinctions cause 1) Life's too short and 2) I'm sure I could never come up with genre distinctions that I'd be happy with

mms (mms), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

party wont suffle no more :(

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

103,854 songs in Apple Lossless format on many terabytes of hard drives, and all of them backed up - TWICE!

I've got about half my CD collection listed here, if you're looking for rare stuff:

http://ttc.gnarf.org/listuserext.pl?username=peregrinate

Dee Xtrovert (dee dee), Thursday, 2 November 2006 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

HI DERE!

PappaWheelie, don't fuck this up (PappaWheelie 2), Thursday, 2 November 2006 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

that's awesome Dee. All mine are in Apple Lossless where possible; mine are backed up once. the other problem is my bootleg/live stuff, which exploded from a very large collection to a huge collection when BitTorrent came onto the scene. None of that stuff is in my iTunes library, those are all on CD (and some of it FLAC'd and backed up on DVD) and scattered in about five shoeboxes in my closet. I'd hate to think how much hard drive space those would take up.

don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 2 November 2006 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

BTW, how the hell did you add your collection into that website? Can you automate it somehow with an iTunes export?

don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 2 November 2006 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

i have about 30,000 tracks. too many, but i have a hard time pruning it.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 2 November 2006 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

i'm gonna convert my itunes library to mp3 discs and store them in a cd binder and leave maybe a couple thousand songs on there, nothing more.

gear (gear), Thursday, 2 November 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago)

How did I add it? I actually have a non-iTunes list I keep (for insurance and handy reference purposes) and I exported it somehow. There were directions on the site, if I recall. Only about half my CDs are listed though - too lazy to do the rest, although occasionally I add a few.

Dee Xtrovert (dee dee), Thursday, 2 November 2006 23:04 (eighteen years ago)

You people are fuckin' crazy. Currently I have 8 songs in my library. Every four or five months I burn songs; the reject get deleted. Life has become a lot easier since I discovered that I don't need to keep every book, movie, and song I own.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 2 November 2006 23:58 (eighteen years ago)

man, and i thought 6500ish was unwieldy.

Emily B (Emily B), Friday, 3 November 2006 00:09 (eighteen years ago)

39 Genres --> 158 Artists --> 705 Albums --> 8749 Songs --> 25.7 Days --> 34.88 GB

Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Friday, 3 November 2006 00:25 (eighteen years ago)

(after tonight's record store trip...)

39 Genres --> 158 Artists --> 708 Albums --> 8790 Songs --> 25.9 Days --> 35.14 GB

Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Friday, 3 November 2006 05:52 (eighteen years ago)

That's surprisingly few artists Stephen.

I have just under 3000 songs, only 8.5 days of music, but 560 "Artists".

Bob Six (bobbysix), Friday, 3 November 2006 08:37 (eighteen years ago)

78 days of music, all on slsk. Share the love!

jon person (jon person), Saturday, 4 November 2006 01:50 (eighteen years ago)

959GB of mp3/AACs here. 223 DVD-Rs of stuff.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 4 November 2006 01:58 (eighteen years ago)

I've only got 3000 but find that the ease of downloading is giving me far too much music to ever fully digest. I mean, I really feel I need the Enuff Z'nuff dicography, but will I appreciate it?

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Saturday, 4 November 2006 07:54 (eighteen years ago)

That's surprisingly few artists Stephen.

Actually, the 158 artists include a few that are essentially the same people - Radiohead/Jonny Greenwood/Thom Yorke... Sonic Youth/Ciccone Youth/Thurston Moore... Eno/Brian Eno/Brian Eno + David Byrne... Aphex Twin/AFX... - including a couple more that I am probably forgetting, so basically, you could cut the number down to 145 or so, I'd bet.

Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Sunday, 5 November 2006 23:36 (eighteen years ago)

i'm gonna convert my itunes library to mp3 discs and store them in a cd binder and leave maybe a couple thousand songs on there, nothing more.
-- gear

I did that about a year ago and it was great for archiving everything I had at the time, but since then I've gotten into a number of subgenres that are universes of their own (Italian Prog, Early Moog ish, etc.) and my library has quickly regained and since outgrown its former size.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Monday, 6 November 2006 00:25 (eighteen years ago)

i'm gonna convert my itunes library to mp3 discs and store them in a cd binder and leave maybe a couple thousand songs on there, nothing more.
-- gear

I did that about a year ago and it was great for archiving everything I had at the time, but since then I've gotten into a number of subgenres that are universes of their own (Italian Prog, Early Moog ish, etc.) and my library has quickly regained and since outgrown its former size.

959GB of mp3/AACs here. 223 DVD-Rs of stuff.
-- Elvis Telecom (quartzcit...), November 4th, 2006.

Predictably, I really really like this idea that I had completely not considered.

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Monday, 6 November 2006 00:25 (eighteen years ago)

haha i'm already putting together playlists for burning purposes. i initially had very generalized genre lists but now the discs look like "asian psych folk vol 1", "60s french pop", "italian prog", "70s krautrock", etc.

gear (gear), Monday, 6 November 2006 00:40 (eighteen years ago)

959GB of mp3/AACs here. 223 DVD-Rs of stuff.

-- Elvis Telecom (quartzcit...), Saturday 1:58 AM. (Chris Barrus) (later)

chills. wow.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 6 November 2006 00:51 (eighteen years ago)

I thought I was bad at 18,000 songs, so I deleted everything I saw on there that I found regrettable (late Mighty Mighty Bosstones, the two-girl band on Saddle Creek, really boring acoustic dream-pop stuff, whatever they were called). Back up to 10,000 or so now, until I cull again.

I figure in this day and age, I can delete pretty much anything I want and find it again later. Sometimes I get the urge to hear Sarah McLachlan, but I don't really need "Building A Mystery" on my hard drive all the time.

milo z (mlp), Monday, 6 November 2006 01:46 (eighteen years ago)

chills. wow.

Make that 228 DVD-Rs. I held off for a bit until I got the new laptop (faster burning now!)

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 6 November 2006 01:56 (eighteen years ago)

how many songs/albums is that?

gear (gear), Monday, 6 November 2006 02:00 (eighteen years ago)

too many. i reckon that's at least a years worth of music if it was played just once.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 6 November 2006 03:17 (eighteen years ago)

If you listen 16 hours a day every day, I'm calculating that a 350 GB hard drive w/ MP3s of varying bit rates would mean listening to everything just once in a year.

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 6 November 2006 03:26 (eighteen years ago)

question re: ipods, possibly better suited for another thread, but what the fuck.

i want to free up space on my hard drive by moving tracks to an external drive. can i keep those songs in the itunes library, and thus on the ipod, by switching to manual update of the library?

tobo (tobo), Thursday, 9 November 2006 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

is the external drive bigger than yr existing hard drive? is it big enough to contain your entire music library?

if so then just move the location of the library:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301748

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 9 November 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

oh, you might not be on a mac but i think you can do the same on a PC.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 9 November 2006 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

i don't know if it's crazier to have 28,000 tunes or only 8!

gear (gear), Thursday, 9 November 2006 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

I've got about 12,000 songs on my iTunes. 90% of my listening happens either on my computer or on my iPod, so it makes sense to just have the majority of my record collection on there.

I also like the library-building aspect of it all, and especially in social situations, like road trips or weddings, it's fun when people make requests -- like "Oh shit, do you have 'Humpty Dance' on there?" -- and I'm able to comply.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

Jed, thanks for the article link -- just what I was looking for.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 05:57 (seventeen years ago)

(after tonight's record store trip...)
39 Genres --> 158 Artists --> 708 Albums --> 8790 Songs --> 25.9 Days --> 35.14 GB

-- Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Thursday, November 2, 2006 11:52 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Link

so it turns out i've expanded a good amount in the last year:

44 Genres / 202 Artists / 1035 Albums / 13,241 Songs / 38.9 Days / 52.50 GB

stephen, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 07:51 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

OK ITUNES QWERSTION FOR U ALL

i've got my itunes library on an external HD; i run itunes on a laptop.

for taking stuff mobile (like to play pretend-dj at parties etc) i'd like to not have to drag the external along. (i'd like something a little better than my ipod for it, too. party shuffle is what i'm after).

i have playlists of stuff that would be good to play out; is there any easy way to set up a second library on the laptop's local drive made up of those playlists? or am i kidding myself

gff, Monday, 31 December 2007 04:45 (seventeen years ago)

mac o pc?

jhøshea, Monday, 31 December 2007 04:52 (seventeen years ago)

mac

i've found some shit about having multiple libraries on mac, that's helpful : http://www.allthingsmarked.com/2006/09/13/howto-manage-multiple-libraries-in-itunes-7/

what i'm trying to avoid is pulling off every track i want "portable" from the external, putting them on the reg'lar HD, opening them one at a time, etc... bleh

gff, Monday, 31 December 2007 04:57 (seventeen years ago)

just put them all in a playlist then select all then drag them into a folder on yr local drive

jhøshea, Monday, 31 December 2007 05:09 (seventeen years ago)

o rly that would've worked?? hah, i came up with a more kludgy process that worked

1. export that playlist as xml
2. quit itunes
3. back up the itunes library db and xml files (put 'em somewhere else)
4. start itunes holding down option
5. choose 'create new library' called MOBILE
7. itunes opens up empty >> set library from the external back to internal with 'automatically copy' set ON
8. import xml playlist: all files copied back

gff, Monday, 31 December 2007 05:15 (seventeen years ago)

this can get you most of the way there -

http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/scripts07.php?page=2#syncplaylistfilestofolder

Tracer Hand, Monday, 31 December 2007 05:41 (seventeen years ago)

whoa hot shit tracer, thx

gff, Monday, 31 December 2007 05:51 (seventeen years ago)

I highly recommend Media Monkey to those of you maintaining large music libraries. Great tagging functions, album art is a snap, and it syncs to most (I think) mp3 players. The only drawback is no video compatibility.

They're finishing the beta testing of version 3.0. Download it here:

http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15384&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

turkey, Monday, 31 December 2007 06:23 (seventeen years ago)

i only have 6433 songs, and i still feel that it's too big to manage.

(most of these are individual tracks)

i am starting feel like i may never have control of my music.

i have resisted classifying by genre for YEARS, because i don't like pigeonholing anything. but editing all these g8d#$#mn ID3 tags is like pigeonholing taken to the extreme.

is my only way out to make playlists?

Tracer Hand, Friday, 4 January 2008 19:00 (seventeen years ago)

oh and i would use media monkey but i have a mac.

as far as i can tell, the best ID3 editor for mac is mediarage, is that right? but tbh i may just give up on ID3, as i have perhaps yawnsomely chronicled over the last couple of weeks

Tracer Hand, Friday, 4 January 2008 19:01 (seventeen years ago)

I'm not sure what people mean by too large too manage - I assumed this thread was about the fact that iTunes moves really slowly once you fill it up (I've got about 13000 songs). I tag the tracks using iEatBrainz (which doesn't set genre tags) and i set iTunes to name the files in line with ID3 tags. for the last few months i've been manually selecting swathes of files and using iTunes "write ID3 tags" function just to be totally sure. i'm not sure what's so hard to manage?

i need to check out mediarage. I tried jaikoz but it's crap

mitya, Saturday, 5 January 2008 06:01 (seventeen years ago)

Tracer, I was under the impression you spurned iTunes and that your preference was for using Finder and Cog, or some similarly recherché approach?

Alba, Saturday, 5 January 2008 08:40 (seventeen years ago)

that mediamonkey shout-out just saved me many hours of bullshit from iTunes, which will add up exponentially in the future, thanks!

strgn, Saturday, 5 January 2008 09:11 (seventeen years ago)

four years pass...

How old is your iTunes Library? Just realised that mine just hit 10 years old last month.

http://i.imgur.com/kH5vM.png

Alba, Monday, 1 October 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago)

How many computers have you had in that time? Transferring my music from HD to new comp always redates my stuff.

kelpolaris, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.