(I hear their first album's EVEN BETTER, incidentally.)
What I'd like now is for ILM to come together in recognition of forgotten (i.e. not referenced by ANYONE in general contemporary musical conversation) 90's alt-rock, and suggest bands who created forgotten masterpieces, didn't get a decent record deal, and faded away quietly with nary a sigh. Early 00's can come play too. I'm sure there are threads on this already, but the search function's playing up and I have a specific sort of music in mind (sort of).
― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:26 (eighteen years ago)
Long, sprawling alt-prog masterpiece that takes years to chew through.
― everything (everything), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:29 (eighteen years ago)
I've already done a Google search for 'ilx six by seven' and found no single thread that summed up what I wanted to do here. :-(
Anyway, c'mon now, I'll bet you know a few answers to my question!
xpost
ALT-PROG MASTERPIECE = I BUY
― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:29 (eighteen years ago)
Which took five seconds to find.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:31 (eighteen years ago)
― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:34 (eighteen years ago)
― everything (everything), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:35 (eighteen years ago)
Mansun mixed with Foetus = OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG, so bear in mind that you've built this one up a bit. Ideally it should be music that knows not when to stop, and aims to be the grandest, coolest, most innovative listening experience KNOWN TO MAN.
― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:40 (eighteen years ago)
― You've Had Your Chances (noodle vague), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:42 (eighteen years ago)
― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:45 (eighteen years ago)
free downloads - http://www.cardiacs.com/downloads/
Plus, one more shout for Ultrasound. Not crucial but it might float your boat.
― everything (everything), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:48 (eighteen years ago)
― everything (everything), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:51 (eighteen years ago)
The final track on that Ultrasound album is FORTY MINUTES LONG
When I planned my perfect album as a 16 year-old, I promised myself that it would have a 30-minute closer. But FORTY?! Based upon that and the album-cover ALONE I am buying that album.
I repeat: music that knows not when to stop, but seeks perfection. :-)
OK, now I have a 2-album shopping-list. But where to find them? HMV, you're having a laugh...
― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:53 (eighteen years ago)
― everything (everything), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:55 (eighteen years ago)
?
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:00 (eighteen years ago)
― You've Had Your Chances (noodle vague), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:04 (eighteen years ago)
Scrawl--Nature FilmCan't go wrong here. A great cover of PIL's Public Image, and excellent originals like "Charles." I got a copy on amazon.com used for one cent.
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:05 (eighteen years ago)
― everything (everything), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:08 (eighteen years ago)
― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:11 (eighteen years ago)
Also check out Girls Against Boys - Venus Luxure No 1 Babyand of course anything by Redd Kross, The Youngs Gods, Screaming Trees , Unwound, Blonde Redhead etc.
and Louis do you never answer your emails at that hotmail address?
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:15 (eighteen years ago)
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~tewing/ned/nedmain.html
― Radio Free Albemuth (DocMartensBoots), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:18 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.pandemoniumrecords.com/images/xcd/grand/camp_1.jpg
― everything (everything), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:45 (eighteen years ago)
― SonicDeath (BlackIronPrison), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:56 (eighteen years ago)
― Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Friday, 3 November 2006 20:03 (eighteen years ago)
and
overlooked 90's groupsmost important/influential albums of 90's (name 5)What are some obscure alternative hits from the early 90's?Ladies and gentlemen....the 1990s ILX SINGLES POLL RESULTS
― sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Friday, 3 November 2006 23:44 (eighteen years ago)
― sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Friday, 3 November 2006 23:49 (eighteen years ago)
― hmmm (hmmm), Saturday, 4 November 2006 00:08 (eighteen years ago)
Search function = fuxxored, but, the Beta Band?
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 4 November 2006 00:27 (eighteen years ago)
― A Radio Picture (Rrrickey), Saturday, 4 November 2006 00:28 (eighteen years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 4 November 2006 00:34 (eighteen years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 4 November 2006 00:36 (eighteen years ago)
I think Louis would love to visit me and listen to my cds and lps.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Saturday, 4 November 2006 00:43 (eighteen years ago)
Oh, and everything, I may just do that. :-)
*starts researching ur recommendations up Allmusic*
― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Saturday, 4 November 2006 01:17 (eighteen years ago)
Nada Surf were one of the prototypical 90s one hit wonder bands, with Popular. They're currently one of the 2 or 3 best power pop bands in the world. Last year's The Weight Is A Gift is an instant classic. I don't see anybody writing catchier songs than them right now.
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Saturday, 4 November 2006 01:30 (eighteen years ago)
― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Saturday, 4 November 2006 01:51 (eighteen years ago)
how about Mexican Pets? The Voice of Trucker Youth, which is all you need, is like Pixiesaur Jr. tunes and a dual-guitar sound either band would kill for. kicks as much ass as i remember.
Further? talk about a band that could be ridiculously great. Sometimes Chimes, man. and the Grimes Golden EP. those CDs sum up everything i care to remember about '90s alt rock.
into the '00s, it's all about Ooberman for me. the JP version of Hey Petrunko, or anywhere else you'll find "Summer Nights in June." this is indie-prog done right. fuck yeah.
― Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (Ghost Bear Junior High Attenda), Saturday, 4 November 2006 01:53 (eighteen years ago)
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 4 November 2006 02:00 (eighteen years ago)
― Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (Ghost Bear Junior High Attenda), Saturday, 4 November 2006 02:02 (eighteen years ago)
I sense that Amazon may well be my friend in this forthcoming quest, actually.
― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Saturday, 4 November 2006 02:20 (eighteen years ago)
― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Saturday, 4 November 2006 02:23 (eighteen years ago)
― Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (Ghost Bear Junior High Attenda), Saturday, 4 November 2006 02:27 (eighteen years ago)
My other perrenial entries on lists like these are The Nightblooms' 24 Days At Catastrofe Cafe and (sorry Jim from Australia) Magic Dirt's Friends In Danger.
― dlp9001 (dlp9001), Saturday, 4 November 2006 02:33 (eighteen years ago)
― Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (Ghost Bear Junior High Attenda), Saturday, 4 November 2006 02:34 (eighteen years ago)
http://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B00004WIL9.09.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
― everything (everything), Saturday, 4 November 2006 05:11 (eighteen years ago)
― Douglas (Douglas), Saturday, 4 November 2006 05:27 (eighteen years ago)
I just reacqainted myself today with something I listened to almost continuously in 1992, The Beautiful's Storybook. Jane's Addiction-isms aside, it's a great (and great sounding) rock record that's totally rotten and fucked up at its core.
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 4 November 2006 05:36 (eighteen years ago)
― mat maiellro (chelvis), Saturday, 4 November 2006 07:25 (eighteen years ago)
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Saturday, 4 November 2006 08:02 (eighteen years ago)
Tell me you did check out the Monsoon Bassoon though
LOL!!! Check out the time and date of the following post:
if there's one song i wish more people had heard, that song is "commando"
-- Just got offed, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 11:06 (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
As long as it's artistically uncompromising, unexpected, and thrilling, I'll probably give it love.
― Just got offed, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 11:50 (seventeen years ago)
I'd like to recommend 'The Magic City ' by Helium as a lost gem from 1995.
― boring, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 11:57 (seventeen years ago)
The most orphaned thread I ever did start on ILX: The band: Bicycle. The album: Bicycle. Not quite a masterpiece but an enjoyable and totally overlooked album...
Also, the Moonbabies' first record, June and Novas as well as the first (I think self-titled) album by Azure Ray - both very dreamy, hushed, pretty albums. Moonbabies have a few rockout moments. I never heard any of the stuff they did later but I gather it went for more of a coffee shop vibe?
In a similar vein (with more drama and mood swings, and atonal warbling) there's always Jeremy Enigk (Sunny Day Real Estate)'s solo joint, Return of the Frog Queen.
The Glands' Double Thriller seconded - that is a fucking great CD, totally sublimates delay pedal flourishes into all the beauty and ache of sitting on a porch wondering where the hell your life is going.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago)
Must comment any time somebody mentions The Glands. Possibly the most overlooked indie band ever. Double Thriller is great but the 2nd record is their masterpiece.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago)
RE: The Glands - yes, buy them both and somebody get that Shapiro dude back in the studio.
― will, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago)
For further discussion and insight: The Glands from Athens, GA
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago)
No Bugskull?
― Michael Dudikoff presents Action Adventure Theatre, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 11:40 (seventeen years ago)
-- Just got offed, Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:50 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
90s alternative rock 4 u
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 11:45 (seventeen years ago)
I wouldn't use the word "masterpiece," but I rediscovered the Latin Playboys recently and they make really nice background music (I don't mean that as an insult at all!).
― babyalive, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 14:49 (seventeen years ago)
Soooo yeah The Swirlies. 100%. They are written off as shoegaze but they do way more than any other shoegaze band has done. They just bend their guitar chords and stuff. Which I LOVE.
― Evan, Saturday, 20 June 2009 00:34 (sixteen years ago)
lol this was all things told my most successful thread
― gosh I actually dig this shit (country matters), Saturday, 20 June 2009 00:56 (sixteen years ago)
Engine Kid - Angel Wings
I think in hindsight these guys were a bit in front of the wave. They got slogged off as some Slint wannabees, which is there somewhat, but there is also some mathy near metal in their sound. It is heavy, moody and kind of catchy at points. I think it holds up really well.
― earlnash, Saturday, July 7, 2007 3:51 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark
^^to increase possible interest in engine kid....the band was led by one Mr. Greg Anderson, of Southern Lord and Sunn O))) fame. great band.
― the relatively famous Cambridge psychologist Sug-Ban Cohen (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 20 June 2009 14:27 (sixteen years ago)
acetone made some pretty good records in this vein
― the relatively famous Cambridge psychologist Sug-Ban Cohen (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 20 June 2009 14:30 (sixteen years ago)
There's a story I often tell, about the time I was in NY and walked into an East Village eatery, where I was approached by a member of staff who asked if I was (who I am). Not realizing I was wearing a jacket with my name on it I was quite surprised, although I am sometimes recognized, usually for being someone else (used to be Elliot Sharp, when I was younger, now it's Jean Reno).
I was offered a drink on the house, so I asked why. I was told that "you sent me the best rejection letter I ever got." It was one of the guys from Sammy, who had sent me a demo of their 1st album. I apparently sent him a note thanking him for the advance copy of the new Pavement record.
You can't make this shit up.
― factcheckr, Saturday, 20 June 2009 19:48 (sixteen years ago)
scarce - deadsexy
― what a disaster for 1p3 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 June 2009 20:44 (sixteen years ago)
esp. "all sideways"
― what a disaster for 1p3 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 June 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)
BINGO TRAPPERS!!!!
also, Guv'ner.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 20 June 2009 21:41 (sixteen years ago)
For the most part, that Sammy/Pavement thing needs to be put to bed. Xpost. I think there's like one or two tracks on debut album that sound remotely pavementy, and the vocals are totally diff. (Lou Reed Preppie vs. Mark E. Preppie)
― dlp9001, Saturday, 20 June 2009 22:12 (sixteen years ago)
guvner is so tite
― 69, Saturday, 20 June 2009 22:17 (sixteen years ago)
GUV'NER vs BUTTERGLORY
― 69, Saturday, 20 June 2009 22:18 (sixteen years ago)
(used to be Elliot Sharp, when I was younger, now it's Jean Reno).
I read this as "Janet Reno" and was all 0_o
― akm, Saturday, 20 June 2009 22:21 (sixteen years ago)
Never got round to hearing to Scarce. That was Chick Graning (sp?) from Anastasia Screamed, wasn't it?
― Enemy Insects (NickB), Saturday, 20 June 2009 22:24 (sixteen years ago)
yeah. they had a couple of really good songs. i liked 'hope' a lot
― task force vs the brisbane punks (electricsound), Sunday, 21 June 2009 00:39 (sixteen years ago)
Woah Matt. Had no idea Greg Anderson was in Engine Kid. went to a friend's (plays in Sunn) house last week and he had a rec around that was Greg and the dude from Iceburn. Didn't hear it, but was kinda floored to even be reminded of Iceburn. Forgot abt them and Engine Kid too..
― bear, bear, bear, Sunday, 21 June 2009 03:46 (sixteen years ago)
yep Engine Kid is the weird connection between Silkworm and Sunn O))) i think one of the dudes in silkworm's brothers was in engine kid...or something...
oh yeah...I should say:
ALL THE SILKWORM ALBUMS belong on this thread
― attack! attack! "stick stickly" youtube video 2:48 nvr frgt (M@tt He1ges0n), Sunday, 21 June 2009 16:47 (sixteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjnsBQRPbpA
― CaptainLorax, Sunday, 14 February 2010 23:37 (fifteen years ago)
Found a copy of the Red Aunts' #1 Chicken for a buck a while back, and it's a very fine buzzsawfest.
― Hardcore Homecare (staggerlee), Monday, 15 February 2010 02:27 (fifteen years ago)
Heres one: Milf. The album "Ha Ha Bus" is really great.
― Evan, Monday, 15 February 2010 03:25 (fifteen years ago)
I read a pretty intriguing review (now forgotten) of that Milf album once and could never find a copy of it pre-internet; from time to time I take a look for a torrent, but searching for "milf" on the internet is, y'know...
― boing boom love tshak (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 15 February 2010 11:19 (fifteen years ago)
Well when you add Ha Ha Bus! to the search in narrows things down a bit. Heres some obscure Milf stuff that I started with:
http://wilfullyobscure.blogspot.com/search?q=milf+
― Evan, Monday, 15 February 2010 12:54 (fifteen years ago)
seriously guys...Remy Zero's first album dropped a year before OK Computer, and is so much better (and was kind of a defining influence on the best-album-of-the-90s standby)
forget the Coldplay-before-Coldplay hype, that came later...first album is Southern post-rock and thrilling shoegazer with all sorts of shifting sonic textures...
― ha! (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 15 February 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)
Probably not a masterpiece but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks40lw9fluw
― Moka, Monday, 15 February 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)
Really enjoying that obscure Milf stuff Evan.. now I have a task ahead of me hearing all the Milf stuff + searching this and other 90's threads now that I'm on a fix
― CaptainLorax, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cklb7L0OA1c
still love this song
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)
I'm really glad you like Milf! They really had something, and until now not many people I talk to care too much about it. They're sick of my own 90s fix for the past year I bet. They don't get my love for the moodier or lo-fi stuff I've been digging up.
― Evan, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 03:42 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yrlw8FuJko
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 04:36 (fifteen years ago)
man, Scarce. hadn't thought about them in a while. "All Sideways," "Scorpion Tray"
think I only have a 7" not the album
― dmr, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 04:41 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCHNL3-FZOA
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 04:45 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrBE3VRc8mc
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 04:46 (fifteen years ago)
WTF where is "Brimful Of Asha" on youtube???!?!?!?
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 04:48 (fifteen years ago)
wtf also no Summercamp "Drawer"
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 04:49 (fifteen years ago)
I now recognize this as Jeff Buckley covering Oasis....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NgLV056kB0
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 04:51 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzibA7YP7VM
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 04:53 (fifteen years ago)
ok i'll stop now
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 04:54 (fifteen years ago)
I also heard that Dildo of the Insignificant Specks is producing two tracks on the new Glovebox 12-inch with two of the Hosebags singing background vocals and Don Roth playing...
― (I Just) Died In Your Asshat Tonight, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 06:07 (fifteen years ago)
Wheat - Medeiros
― john. a resident of chicago., Monday, 25 February 2013 00:08 (twelve years ago)
Hope and Adams is good too, John in Chicago. "Don't I hold you" in particular?
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Monday, 25 February 2013 08:45 (twelve years ago)
It is time to revive.This thread, it is fair to say, has actually managed to change my music taste a little.
― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:40 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what can we do to change your internet usage?― jaxon (jaxon), Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:55 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
get me a fucking gf?― quod erat demonstrandum (Haberdager), Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:04 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
A man that knows his own heart.
― shouting in a bucket blues (MaresNest), Monday, 25 February 2013 08:55 (twelve years ago)
Reviving this simply because this appears to be the most discussion on ILM about the Seattle band Engine Kid, ie one of Greg Anderson's earliest bands before Sunn 0))) but quite good in their own right. Very sad news that's been going around about their drummer Chris Vandebrooke:
http://www.thestranger.com/music/2017/01/18/24804818/seattle-remembers-chris-vandebrooke
Some quick thoughts of my own, due to a very small connection with him:
http://nedraggett.tumblr.com/post/156043572182/seattle-remembers-chris-vandebrooke
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 18:07 (eight years ago)
Reading this thread title reminded me of this awesome song my friend and I loved in high school!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmtbsZIYSJs
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 18:27 (eight years ago)