The music of Seattle

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It seems strange to me that a city who's music was once a national focalpoint has not been spoken of much at all since about 1995 or so.

During the grunge heyday several theories were posited about what made Seattle such a musically special area. It's said that in the late 80s hardcore scene bands from other locations that toured the west coast rarely went as far north as Seattle which kept their scene insolated from much outside influence. This is why these bands were mostly listening to older stuff like Sabbath. It's also said that because Seattle was so removed from L.A. and New York and the hope for being a success seemed so far off that the scene became even more isolated. There was also some talk about the towns working class, lumber jack roots and something about a lot of serial killers being from the pacific northwest. Do these scene forming elements still exist? Did they ever exist? How did the national Seattle obsession change the local music scene?

Was this all some shit that that movie Hype! made up to try and explain the grunge phenomenon?

What has been going on in Seattle, rock or otherwise, since 1995? How is it different to what was going on in 1985?

And on another note, Sir Mix A Lot was from Seattle, is there now or has there ever been a notable, non Mix A Lot Seattle hip hop scene?

Period period period (Period period period), Monday, 6 November 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

donut to thread. And Matos. And Scott CE. And many others...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 November 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Seattle music sucks. It's mostly all the plodgiest of rock. And the hiphop scene is composed almost completely composed of corny backpacker fuxxors and personality-less third-string Twista knockoffs. Local Scene Dudes complain about the hiphop station here not supporting local hiphop, but they forget to take into account that Seattle hiphop is horrible. I hear the dahnce scene might be good, but have never cared enough to find out.

(I have a total love/hate relation w/ Seattle. I love it because it's not goddamn Everett, and hate it because it's not anywhere else.)

Rodney... (R. J. Greene), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

I honestly thought you lived elsewhere, Rodney.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Just curious, where?

Rodney... (R. J. Greene), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.ballfourbook.com/70team.jpg

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Just curious, where?

Somewhere east coast. (This shows you how much I pay attention.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Well, WESSSIDE to that, fool!

Rodney... (R. J. Greene), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Hooray!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

Regarding the dance scene, Orac (http://orac.vu/) is a great dance label based there currently. I'm not sure what this has to do with the above questions, but it's worth noting.

matt2 (matt2), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

It seems strange to me that a city who's music was once a national focalpoint has not been spoken of much at all since about 1995 or so.

And let's not speak of it again, in the context of a "movement", thanks.

Seattle still has and had well known bands/artists... it's just that the popularity of Death Cab, Pretty Girls, Blood Brothers, Jeff Samuel (now Berlin), Lusine, Eluvium (formerly Portland), The Lights, Earth, Modest Mouse (now Portland) hasn't been such a city-centric focus.. these bands/artists have pretty much become popular on their own terms, and not because they live in a particular city.

I'm really happy living in a city with tons of great bands and artists (not necessarily all the ones I mentioned above) who I can see regularly, and who can live here just because they can thrive here and enjoy living here to some degree, not because they need a "scene" or "movement" to energize them. I wouldn't sleep if I had to catch every band I liked play every night here. There's nothing specifically "Seattle" about these bands

sure we have more Sonics & Melvins sounding bands than other regions, but that's the case with a lot of key bands in any city having that effect.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

Doesn't Bill Frisell live in Seattle?

Anyways, Seattle's "scene" has got to be cooler than Eugene's "scene" which is both a knockoff of the "Bay Area scene" as well as a knockoff of the "Portland scene" depending on which club you go to.

vartman (novaheat), Monday, 6 November 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

As does Wayne Horvitz, yes.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Monday, 6 November 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

It seems strange to me that a city who's music was once a national focalpoint has not been spoken of much at all since about 1995 or so.

not strange to me in the slightest. look at where the country was in the late 80s/early 90s. look at where it's been ever since.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 6 November 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

Seemed like Seattle came up a lot in the late 90s especially as a hub for indie rock that came down from Built to Spill, etc. (which included Modest Mouse and Death Cab). Up Records, while it was still going strong, seemed like a pretty good hub for that style of indie rock, esp. when you factored in Sub Pop, Suicide Squeeze, Slabco, etc.

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 6 November 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

xxxpost: eluvium dude is back in portland now, where music is far better! and a lot cheaper. and weirder, but not just for the sake of weirder. (so: take that, and stuff!)

seriously, though, one of the things i love most about seattle's music scene is the sun city girls and the circle of musicians and labels that gravitate around them: climax golden twins, sea donkeys, katharina tunicata, sublime frequencies, etc.

and now that charlie g's doing much better, we ought to be seeing more action from those guys -- including their scoring harmony k's new film (which means maybe i'll watch a harmony k. movie to the end for once but more importantly some $$ for the girls!)

what else that's not strictly in the emo-esque indie/ roots-rock (kexp-most overrated station everrrrrr?) realm? i gues saxophonist wally shoup is better known, finally? that's rad. seattle-based reissue label light in the attic's deluxe job with the 2nd karen dalton album is lovely, as is most of the stuff they do. for years there i was super psyched about the a-frames and their axis of friends, and was surprised at how unknown they were in town -- surely that's changed, or have they just broken up by now?

yetimike (McGonigal), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

A-frames drummer Lars (also Intelligence guy) moved to L.A. at the beginning of the year, so the band is still around, but they have a new drummer now, and are either writing or recording. I saw them do a show this past summer debuting some new songs, so the A-Frames haven't broken up yet, as far as i know. (The drummer is borrowing Lars's tricks with his blessing, which is slightly a borrowing of Bob Bert's tricks to some degree, granted.)

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Monday, 6 November 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

(oh, and while you may have eluvium dude back, you now have mike "crachwhore ass" maker too. you know you want some of that, mike, haw haw haw!!! ;-D)

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Monday, 6 November 2006 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

Saw A Frames in Paris a few weeks back, and they were mighty. New drummer is excellent (and a really sweet guy to boot).

Clumsy Colin in ACTION BIKER (coach_mcguirk), Monday, 6 November 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

hi, brian!!!

the dude from the makers is here? i haven't been going to the strip clubs lately so no wonder i've not seen him.

and i always thought the a-frames drummerwas straight-up ripping off the chrome guy one two out of three tunes and swell maps drummer on the third. bob bert's a good call, too, though. they're all art-tastic...

yetimike (McGonigal), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

yea, weird, i cant think of any bands from seattle ive ever liked. where are aberdeen from? california?

-- (688), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

Well..every now and then a Seattle band will come along to impress me. But it's like...again and again when I buy their CD it doesn't quite stick. Consider that I hate grunge. I do think there is some variety out there style-wise beyond grunge, so that is good. I wish I could name these bands I'm thinking of right now but I can't fucking remember their names. Okay The Lights, there's one. Heard their well known song "Victims of the Pleasure of the Sense of Hearing" and thought "now that is some great post-punk". But the album was boring. Then there's another one that were very fey and British sounding...The Vells? Yeah, my websurfing tells me I got the name right. Seemed fab at first, but didn't really hold my attention in the end.

I guess I will say I have seen that one band live who's name I can't recall = you know, the cutesy, fairly well known electronic bleepy one with a girl playing keyboards I think. They were fun but I felt no desire to buy their music. It's going to drive me crazy for hours now that I can't remember their name. Okay I've got it now: United State of Electonica (USE). Yeah that's who I mean.

I really liked that shoegazing band Voyager One for awhile, in fact I thought their album "Monster Zero" was amazing in that it reminded me so much of the 4AD sound. But eventually I sold it. I'm not sure if I should feel guilty about that or not. They did seem rather amateurish/pretentious at times.

Anyway the point is it's pretty much all non-starters as far as I'm concerned. I still say 764-Hero and Magic Magicians were the very best Seattle has produced (leaving aside Jimi Hendrix for the moment) but that was several years ago now.

All The Furniture Is In The Garage (Bimble...), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

You mean you don't like BAND OF HORSES?????

Plenty of goods here in garage-punk (A-Frames, Lights, Unnatural Helpers, Intelligence), indie/power-pop (Vells, Speaker Speaker, Slender Means, Math & Physics Club), jazz (Wally Shoup, Dead Science) and in-betweens (Cops, Kinski)

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

Well there's another good example. Band of Horses was another case of being hooked because of one song only to find the album didn't interest me.

A Rush of Cold Blood To The Head (Bimble...), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

I like Kinski and Minus The Bear.

I was never into that many Seattle bands when it was THE scene. Silkworm, Tad, maybe Willard, and, if I can cheat a bit, Melvins. Thats about it.

Sir Echo (Sir Echo), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 04:24 (nineteen years ago)

Also I meant no offense to Eluvium, I just thought of him as more Portland than Seattle. His website now tells me that I missed him playing here in June. Excuse me while I go to the next room and scream.

A Rush of Cold Blood To The Head (Bimble...), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 04:36 (nineteen years ago)

And omg that was final exam week and everything and I had a sprained ankle on top of it. There was no way in hell I could have gone to that.

A Rush of Cold Blood To The Head (Bimble...), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 04:37 (nineteen years ago)

I also like what I've heard from Voyager One.

Sir Echo (Sir Echo), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 04:43 (nineteen years ago)

A few good weirdo bands of mention: Girth (although bordering on metal and grind here), the Degenerative Art Ensemble, Na, Black Cheer Blue Sabbath, Master Musicians Of Bukkakke, and now we're getting back into Girls territory.

Totally overlooked: Red Martian. They recently put out an album with remixes done by Severed Heads. Normally on the more indie/shoegazy tip.

Son Of Rose, if you like Fennesz or Ryoji Ikeda.

This is a great city for metal, grind, hardcore... Iron Lung, Akimbo, Book Of Black Earth (ex Teen Cthulhu), Bloodhag... which isn't that surprising.. as most cities these days are great cities for metal, grind, and hardcore... heh.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 04:47 (nineteen years ago)

Girth and Master Musicians of Bukkake are history. But they were sporadically great while they existed.

Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 04:54 (nineteen years ago)

Girth broke up? ;_; Well, didn't those guys have about a gazillion side bands including former members of Swarming Hordes?

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 05:13 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm sure Girth's members will resurface in other permutations.

Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 06:43 (nineteen years ago)

Those of you who were not into the Lights' Beautiful Bird album should give the new one a spin. Diamonds And Dirt is about 10 times better than the first one, and I thought the first one was a good album with great moments. This new one is great all the way through, and much meaner sounding. They begin with a heavy droned out over of Dream Syndicate's "When You Smile." If you like Unwound, The Fall, Modern Lovers, or Go4 (not the more lazy fluid disco-rock "To Hell With Poverty" Go4 comparison here, like honestly Go4), you'll like this album.

They're touring very soon on the west coast, so don't miss 'em. I think their dates are on their myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/lights

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

I really like the Trucks.

A Radio Picture (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

This song makes me feel so very honoured to call this city my home.

PIL - Seattle

It's hrd bein a man, livn' in a garbage pai (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 27 October 2008 03:44 (seventeen years ago)

six years pass...

andrew wood died 25 years ago today.

maura, Thursday, 19 March 2015 20:08 (ten years ago)

And speaking of the departed, the last post here was from Bimble. It's always still a bit odd for me when one of his old posts pops up. RIP.

Losing swag by the second (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 19 March 2015 21:40 (ten years ago)

three years pass...

so, what are the best albums / mixtapes / releases of 2018 by Seattle (or even Seattle-area) artists? i used to pay close attention to the scene, but have dropped the ball this year.

any / all genres welcome.

alpine static, Saturday, 6 October 2018 03:47 (seven years ago)


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