So which 'minimal' techno tracks actually got played EVERYWHERE this year?

Both of these could be from 2005 though. Also, I'm pretty sure they didn't get played in, say, my mum's house.

Hug - The Happy Monster

Thomas Schumacher's "Red Purple" pretty heavily rotated tho obviously not as much as the above two.

dog latin you should YSI those wicked tunes ;)

i am amazed this many tracks of this type could be played 'everywhere'
numbering them suggests there might even be more!

http://static.flickr.com/62/183141073_9ef4c97830_m.jpg"Leopard"

I know where dl's coming from, even if it is a bit of a derail.

well dl's right in that it ends up as just another list (in this month of all months) of tracks that people like or heard in two or three clubs/via different DJs (cos that's how these things always go, cue everyone arguing about the bigness of tunes) - but if there's no rolling minimal TECHNO thread (i thought there was?) then maybe this can be that

x-post how is this a "rolling" thread, it's about the most omnipresent set of records in a genre and was going fine until the usual moans disrupted it.

back to business

claude vonstroke-the whistler
martin landsky-1000 miles
oxia-domino

(I haven't heard the track Jacob started this with...)

louderbach - grace (anxiety)
ricardo villalobos - ichso
justus kohncke - advance (not so much over the year as...now)

what does that tell you?

lists vs endless neutering of every interesting dance thread with stupid semantical gripes

x-post lex otm.

I'm glad this thread was started as about half the records I've never knowingly heard, but will probably go "ah, so THAT'S what it's called' when I try and track them down this evening.

(argh xxxpost)

heckmann/kaufeltt-kookaburra (original and knarz remix)
klikkboxning-microcirkus
hug-the platform
lazy fat people-shinjuku

they both suck but this was my point - thread prevented from being interesting (unless the whole 'funny how everyone has different experiences of what was played EVERYWHERE - does it show the diversity and wealth of the scene or just prove again that there's no consensus?) by virtue of just being another sodding list (and of the list threads that have been locked so far there would always be one or two people who did find them ''interesting' probably, even that 'track 6' one...so why shouldn't this one be locked as well?). how many tracks can be 'everywhere' anyway? aren't there enough threads about this music already? it's like those 'one hit wonders' threads - of course people are going to complain and say 'no way was that a one hit wonder' - just highlights the pointlessness of the thread in the first place.

already got to the point where 'oh i heard this one a few times but dunno if that means it wwas big' or not - thread will surely continue on that basis now (bar this criticism). there are better ways to get download recommendations i would've thought (like just email the people you know and trust?).

Will nobody think of the lurkers?

That would at least make for a shorter list. And would be interesting, I feel.

(Maybe all of the above have. I don't know. But I'd like to know)

As you were. Carry on.

does their amazing rmx of rekleiner count too?

adding to the list:
trickski - sweat
tiefschwarz - damage (m.a.n.d.y. dub)
sebo k - horizons
gummihz - isolate/a.a.k.n.y.
kerri chandler - bar a thym (still in 2006!)

audio werner's "trust" is great!

To some extent a lot of this stuff is all in our heads - as Lex points out it's hard for him to remember that Jona isn't a big scene hero (yet?) because Jona's stuff sounds so big to him.

So it's interesting to look at what (if any) minimal does appear to be crossing over and "blowing up", to see if there is any connection between the stuff that gets played "everywhere" - and by extension between the stuff that doesn't (this would be harder though).

Problem is, confirmation bias still comes into it: people who go out clubbing to the kinds of places that would play this music are more likely to accept the "Everywhere" in the thread than people who don't. But no-one here is claiming minimal is storming the pop charts - surely it's enough that it's a pretty big scene now, probably the

Melbourne feels like such a minimal city now - the thread title is pretty accurate from my perspective! I guess it's because we always used to be such a techno city (Wet Musik etc.) so it's a natural shift. Basically mainstream dance music clubbing has undergone a 3 way split between trad house, mersh electro-house (as typified by One Love) and minimal (the elephant in the room being R&B/hip hop which is almost as big as all 3 combined) - the trad techno, drum & bass, hardcore, trance and hard house scenes are all much smaller.

Anyway the tracks that I've heard played a lot:

Booka Shade - In White Rooms
Theo Parrish - Falling Up (Carl Craig Mix)
Les Djinns - Djuma Soundsystem (both Trentemoller & My My remixes)
Gabriel Ananda - Doppelwhipper
Audion - Mouth to Mouth
Gui Boratto - Arquipelago, Sozinho
Martin Landsky - 1000 Miles
Claude Von Stroke - everything
Hell - Fun Boy 3
Cobblestone Jazz - Dump Truck
Loco Dice - Seeing Through Shadows
Lazy Fat People - Shinjuku (I think it is big Ronan, it got a "Minimal Tune of the Month!" sticker at Rhythm & Soul, which is the locus point for all the DJs who say "I'll just buy all the big tunes")

Definitely the stuff which is biggest is the stuff with pretty big riffs and relatively straight beats, which is hardly surprising considering what most of the DJs and dancers would have been into a few years ago. By comparison the more complex, "proper" minimal housey stuff (Anja Schneider etc.) is less played and indeed harder to find - I know of one store that regularly gets in Mobilee stuff, whereas you can reliably pick up Get Physical, K2 etc. at all the DJ stores unless they're strict specialists in a different style.

after 'body language' is anyone like this actually left? ok that's not as forbiddingly dry as some minimal but it's as subtle as something built around a really catchy riff can be (and most of the 'anthems' mentioned here have equally catchy riffs). and it was EVERYWHERE - not just clubs geared towards minimal but mainstream club nights, playing in the background in non-trendy pubs etc. so to think that minimal isn't conducive to anthems after that would just be WEIRD.

and most of the time minimal will be mixed into electro, tech house, bits of hip-hop and pop, dubstep, even HANDBAG as michael mayer did yesterday - it's part of a wide spectrum of house and techno which is pretty popular.

as for lex's post, it's easy to forget, when everyone you know says "did you hear track x...." as the next sentence after "hello", that you are out of the general scheme of things that most people like.

but people who like music should at least understand that this is how it can be, tunes seem everywhere and huge because everyone you know knows them and likes them.

as I said on another thread, people now sing along to the melody line in "doppelwhipper"...how many dance tunes in any genre can boast this?

Anyway the point was I think it's the height of ignorance to act like people are fabricating a scene which actually exists just because you yourself are not part of said scene.

No, and I think it's a separate question as to whether the tunes listed above are necessarily good - though a lot of them are in my opinion.

how soon we forget kylie

Kylie's look for the cover of the Vogue (or was it something else?) she guest edits suggests that her next musical direction might be something like Eurythmics meets The Knife.

YES, this is where I'm at. But in a positive way. I think it's fabulous that this could happen, but (as someone who's getting on a bit and doesn't get out THAT much) don't really know the context in which this stuff is being consumed, and am interested to hear which tunes REALLY are everywhere, and where exactly that everywhere is.

I suppose what I want to be told is that the driest, weirdest, most miniMAL thing is wildly popular and that beautiful young people are going crazy to it.

I never go out anymore...I can't. Amazingly listening to tracks at home also allows you to keep up.

Well, I'm not quite in that boat, but I am a bit out of the loop, although I do try. ; ) (Was actually just listening to your most recent show on the way to work, Ronan. It's great.)

Anyway, here's my idea: evidence. Lets make this like the OED. For a tune to qualify we need citations. It must have been heard on at least four different occasions this year (be that in a club, on the radio, on a mix or whatever). That way, we not only SCIENTIFICALLY establish which tunes were everywhere, but also get to hear about which clubs people are going to, stations they're listening to, mixes they're buying etc. You could call it a list.

So I found myself on a boat party on the Thames that one of the guys from Sancho Panza was djing at (ie not minimal at all) and they played Fuckpony 'Ride the pony' TWICE.

Now I'm starting work in London I think I'd like a few knowledgable Ilxors to take me clubbing.

---------------------------------------------------------------
Süd Electronic's Yuletide Knees Up - Dial Records Allnighter

15th December 2006

Room 1
Dj's
Lawrence / Sten ( Dial , Kompakt , Cocoon , Novamute , Ghostly/Spectral , Ladomat )
Carsten Jost ( Dial , Klang Elektronik , Sender )

Live
Pantha Du Prince ( Dial )

Support Dj's
Juergen Junker ( Neurhythmics , Third Ear )
Lakuti ( Süd )

Room 2

Nick Craddock (nickcraddock.co.uk)
Marco Shuttle ( Minisketch , Multivitamins)
Stefano

Venue : The Rhythm Factory 16 - 18 Whitechapel Road , London E1 1EW
Click on the link below for a map
www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=51.5167&lon=-0.0676&scale=10000&icon=x
Nearest Tubes : Aldgate East , Whitechapel
Buses : 67 , 25 , 205 , 254 , 25 , N106 , N253
Times : 10 pm - 6am
Door Charge : £10 / £8 Concessions to Süd's mailinglist subscribers . Subscribe by emailing :
info@sudelectronic.com
Infoline : 07727685791
www.sudelectronic.com

Now in it's 4th year . The Süd's end of the year party is always about fun . This is the one we usually look forward to & this year's will be no exception . With the best line up yet , this one is not to be missed !

Forget , mince pies , overcooked turkey & brussel sprouts , . Great electronic music will be on offer on this occassion .

We are so so pleased to be joined , by Hamburg's , finest , Dial Records , for their first ever 'Dial Records Allnighter ' ; in London .There is no guessing then that Dial is somewhat of an obsession down our headquarters . They are one of those labels , that never ever get it wrong . Now on their 31st release ; they are all about really intricate productions , melody , lush & beautiful compositions & great techno . The Dial artists are also in demand when it comes to remix work . Having remixed Depeche Mode's Martin L. Gore (Lawrence ) ; Depeche Mode themselves , (Pantha Du Prince ) , Actress , Audision , Turner , Ego Express e.t.c. Head honchos , Lawrence & Carsten Jost , & Pantha Du Prince , will be taking over Room 1 of the Rhythm Factory . Lakuti will be joined by Juergen Junker , on warm up duties . Juergen Junker has delivered some great records on his Neurhythmics imprint and has featured , on remix duties , on the seminal 'Detroit Beatdown Remixes' , (Third Ear ) remixing Delano Smith's 'Metropolis' . Having played nights such as 'Lost' e.t.c. He used to be the friendly face at Smallfish records too !

Room 2 will be hosted by Süd residents Nick Craddock & Marco Shuttle . These guys have been more than impressive this year . Stealing the thunder from guests on many occassions . They will be joined by a special friend to Süd ; Stefano . The party is not a party without Stefano , in fact he has hosted many a Süd afterparty Stefano has such a vast knowledge of electronic music , not to mention a vast collection , so his
Süd debut , should be magical then !

Dial Records are renowned for the exceptional artwork on their records too , with David Lieske's ( Carsten Jost ) , growing reputation in the Contemporary art circles in Germany . They will be working with our very own Brittski , in bringing us some wonderful visual work on the night .

Not to be missed !

More info from :
http://www.dial-rec.de/
http://www.smallville-records.com/
http://www.panthaduprince.com/
http://www.myspace.com/lawrencesten
http://www.myspace.com/carstenjost
 

The issue is not merely that things sound bigger and better in clubs (which I think is true but kind of obvious, and anyone who has been out clubbing a lot should be able to work out a basic approximation of how good something would sound just by listening on headphones - although I grant there's room for variation) but also that context is hugely important, in the sense of the mix itself and in the sense of what your ears are attuned to generally.

A lot of minimal's attraction seem quite obvious to me, but that's because I've been pre-attuned via the double action of first wave microhouse and electro-house - on the one hand I'm already used to the kinds of abstraction/subtleties that might put people off , and on the other, I can hear how electro-house's more blatant emphasis on big hooks has been transformed but kept alive within minimal stuff.