Nick Cave's Grinderman

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What a surprise from Nick Cave.Who thought he could return to his angry past again after all those years and musical changes?
great track this "no pussy blues" is, sort of a no wave meets The Stooges guitar solo.
looking forward for the album.

― emekars (emekars), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I know next to nothing about Cave except his excellent taste in women and facial hair, but "No Pussy Blues" is badass.

― regular roundups (Dave M), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

This won't download for me, but I am SO up for it. The Birthday Party records meant so much to me, I missed seeing 'em live by about six months, and Nick's solo stuff just isn't in the same zone. Be amazing to see him slip back into full-on BP mode. Are they going to tour?

― Soukesian (Soukesian), Thursday, 9 November 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

GODDAMN THAT SONG RUUUUUUUULZ!

I'm super pumped up right now!

fuck I want to throw a brick at someone!

― M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

fuck me, this is great! it's like when reviewers say shit like "flamethrower guitars" and shit yr all like tevs dood, but the guitar on this is so brutal, awesome!

― M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

que rad

― what does it mean “hockey sticks”? (teenagequiet), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

ok yeah the guitar just kicked in this is awesome AWESOME i tells ya

― what does it mean “hockey sticks”? (teenagequiet), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

This is indeed pretty great. I never thought I'd be looking forward to a Nick Cave album again...

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

i think abbatoir blues/lyre of orpheus might be my fav nick ever.

― M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 9 November 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

Is that a guitar, or is that Ellis's mic'd and distorted violin?

― zach mercer (suizen), Thursday, 9 November 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, who knows, i never thought of that....

― M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 9 November 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

Cause that first big salvo of distortion is nice, but it doesn't really sound like a traditional guitar, but much more like the kind of noisy solos you hear someone with an amplified viola or violin playing. Plus, if you keep listening, you can hear a more traditional guitar riff kick in later on.

It's rather low quality, but I'm not hearing any other overdubs at all--a four guys, four instruments kind of deal...so where's Ellis?

― zach mercer (suizen), Thursday, 9 November 2006 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

thank christ nick cave has a sense of humor again. this song's great i really can't wait to hear more.

i think he's a bit old for "full-on BP mode," as much as it pains me to say, but this is good enough for now.

― adam j (In Place of Something Clever), Friday, 10 November 2006 07:47 (nineteen years ago)

It's great! But it's not like the Birthday Party at all. Are you all saying that just because he's growling a bit?

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 10 November 2006 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, if anything, I'm thinking more of the Tupelo era.

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 10 November 2006 09:31 (nineteen years ago)

four guys, four instruments kind of deal...so where's Ellis?

"Warren Ellis - Electric Bouzouki, Fendocastor, Viola, Violin, Acoustic Guitar, Hohner Guitaret, Backing Vocals"

― occasional mongrel (kit brash), Friday, 10 November 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

"I'm thinking more of the Tupelo era"
yeah.
nick cave vocals - tupelo area+scott walker style
the guitars - stooges
the drums - mellow birthday party (dead joe)
the bass - gallon drunk

― emekars (emekars), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

x-post:

well, you obviously missed that point.

― zach mercer (suizen), Saturday, 11 November 2006 04:19 (nineteen years ago)

uh YES PRESUMABLY HE IS MAKING THE NOISE THAT SOUNDS LIKE A DISTORTED VIOLA, who else are you counting in your four guys that he doesn't fit?

― occasional mongrel (kit brash), Saturday, 11 November 2006 05:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oh my god! Has he gone all passionate and rock and roll again with seething eyes??? I'm so up for this shit.

― A Chocolate Ball of Sweet Confectionary Fire (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 November 2006 08:04 (nineteen years ago)

First the solo show, now this - is this the longest time he's been Mick Harvey-less?

― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 11 November 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

"We're planning to do an album in the new year. In fact, that reminds me, I must ring Nick to find out what's going on as he won't talk to anybody about it. I met Jim Sclavunos in New York recently, he'd been in the studio with Nick for about three weeks, working on this Grinderman record, so I asked him about plans for the new Bad Seeds record and he said Nick wouldn't talk about it. So, I'll give him a call to find out what's going on. The last Bad Seeds record was class."

This week Harvey's getting around to touring his solo album from a year or two ago, with Thomas Wydler and James Johnston in his band.

― occasional mongrel (kit brash), Sunday, 12 November 2006 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

Interesting... Thanks!

― StanM (StanM), Sunday, 12 November 2006 06:45 (nineteen years ago)

OM--what on earth are you talking about? That's what I suggested in the first place, when everyone else was talking about guitar solos. Do you have a bouzouki on that track? No? Then what are you on about?

― zach mercer (suizen), Sunday, 12 November 2006 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

Fendocastor
Fendocastor
Fendocastor
Fendocastor

― H2-H4 (H2-H4), Sunday, 12 November 2006 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

I would really like so much to hear this, but when I go to the myspace page, it keeps breaking up while it's playing, "buffering" etc. March is a long way away. We really have to wait that long for the album?

― Pump up the pumpkin, pump up the pumpkin dance dance (Bimble...), Sunday, 12 November 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

...so where's Ellis?

― occasional mongrel (kit brash), Monday, 13 November 2006 08:46 (nineteen years ago)

It's floating around, as of a few hours ago. It's not quite as intense as an album as "No Pussy Blues," but it certainly is louder and more agressive generally than Cave and co. have been the last few years. There's some nice ballads on here, actually. Based on my one listen so far I like it a lot.

― Jouster (Jouster), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a Grinderman in the pale moon, in the silver moonlight... yes, I'm the Grinderman 7 days a week in the pale moonlight, in the silver rain... yes, I'm the Grinderman anyway I can...

This is so much better than his last 3 or 4 albums. Who'd have thought it?

― David V (grammy), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

suprised no one has mentioned the Ramones yet

― toe-foo (toe-foo), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

I love track 11.

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

Er... so, what is a fendocastor then? Google it and you only get a couple of results, all about Warren Ellis in Grinderman and (fendocaster) "guy goes to a guitar shop, asks for a GibPaul FendoCaster. Man behind the counter: 'let me guess: you're a drummer' " type jokes.

It doesn't exist, is that it?

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

comparing the rest of the album to the goodies of "no pussy blues" is dissapointing
it's much quieter, and less pointy and accurate than that song.

― emekars (emekars), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

What was the point then of getting rid of the Bad Seeds?

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

he didnt get rid of them.
it's a "side project" of sorts.

― emekars (emekars), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, I know I know. I meant "temporarily dispense with"

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

well, it is kinda different in style and sound (though some of the songs themselvs are cave's regular stuff), and sometimes it has more "anger" on it.i'm not in nick cave's head, but the bad seeds were repeating themselvs more or less, and this one is a bit of a fresh air,than the usuall mick harvey production in the late 15 years or more.

― emekars (emekars), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, as much as I liked the last Bad Seeds lp, I felt it came much too late. I had already OD'ed of that sound. Looking forward to this, but I guess I'll be a fanboy and wait for the official release.

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.electrical.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22204

"John Hillcoat is directing 2 music videos for Grinderman and people are needed to take part in London on 30th November. Ages 20's, 30's, 40's."

― My Koogy Weighs A Ton (koogs), Thursday, 23 November 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

"individuals with unique & idiosyncratic dancing styles appreciated"

Damn! Can't make it.

― Soukesian (Soukesian), Thursday, 23 November 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

I love this record! Nick Cave RULES!!!

― HUNTA-V (vahid), Friday, 24 November 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

no pussy blues video

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 25 January 2007 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

That's one hairy band and one hairy bass line.

― kwhitehead (stephen schmidt), Thursday, 25 January 2007 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

damn.

― Emily Bjurnhjam (Emily Bjurnhjam), Thursday, 25 January 2007 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

nick cave is a BADASS! woot!

― M@tt He1g3s0n: oh u mad cuz im stylin on u (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 25 January 2007 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

Nice. Reminds me a little of the Scientists.

― Soukesian (Soukesian), Thursday, 25 January 2007 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

I saw the album at the store but didn't pick it up, because of conflicting reports. Has anyone heard it in full?

― baaderonixx, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

i know the girl who makes out in the video.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

Damnit, this is out already? And I didn't look for it at the damn CD store today? ARRRRGH

― Bimble, Saturday, 3 March 2007 06:36 (eighteen years ago)

It's not out yet. You are safe until April 10!

What a long leak!

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 3 March 2007 06:43 (eighteen years ago)

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did you care for The Birthday Party?

― Zeno, Thursday, 16 September 2010 02:04 (fifteen years ago)

no. i thought TBP had some interesting-to-provocative lines (e.g., "oh! god! please let me die beneath her fists"), but the music left me cold.

― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 16 September 2010 02:08 (fifteen years ago)

i didn't give TBP much of a chance, to be fair.

― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 16 September 2010 02:09 (fifteen years ago)

will this album make me believe in the essential goodness of mankind

― markers, Thursday, 16 September 2010 02:10 (fifteen years ago)

yes

― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 16 September 2010 02:10 (fifteen years ago)

ok i was thinking of buying it today & didn't but maybe I'll head out to the record store tomorrow and do so

― markers, Thursday, 16 September 2010 02:11 (fifteen years ago)

uhh . . . i was kidding? it won't make you believe in the essential goodness of humankind. it will make you appreciate the depths to which people will sink to quiet their personal demons.

― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 16 September 2010 02:14 (fifteen years ago)

i know it's probably only me, but i see a very slow and painful decline in Cave's releases ever since TBP hiatus.
(though Grinderman are better than anything he did in the last 20 years)

― Zeno, Thursday, 16 September 2010 02:14 (fifteen years ago)

uhh . . . i was kidding?

hahaha, i know man

still thinkin of grabbin the record though

― markers, Thursday, 16 September 2010 02:16 (fifteen years ago)

"it's probably a good thing he isn't trying to do the same things he did 30 years ago"

on 2nd thought, he does, but this is so much better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A76bcBTdBMs

― Zeno, Thursday, 16 September 2010 02:16 (fifteen years ago)

((((((((((d-_-b))))))))))

― ☞ ☹ (markers), Sunday, 19 September 2010 23:32 (fifteen years ago)

I dig the new album but it sags a bit in the middle.

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 20 September 2010 00:41 (fifteen years ago)

on 2nd thought, he does, but this is so much better:

yea my take on the grinderman stuff from the last album was like 'oh good he's back to something he's better at, well kinda'. but it's like he can't shake that literary monkey off his back? and yeah i really prefer the raucous jokester side of nick and i'm glad he's mining that or something like it again but maaaan do i miss rowland.

― she's one intense bitch, she rides a unicycle (arby's), Monday, 20 September 2010 00:45 (fifteen years ago)

which = basically i am unrealistically wanting this to be the birthday party and setting myself up for disappointment.

― she's one intense bitch, she rides a unicycle (arby's), Monday, 20 September 2010 00:46 (fifteen years ago)

I can't quite fathom anyone liking Grinderman better than the Birthday Party.

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 September 2010 00:55 (fifteen years ago)

This is shit music made by shit people for shit people.

If you like this, blog about Nick Cave's fucking facial hair then cut yourself with a piece of fucking glass and throw yourself off a fucking bridge.

― Hipstamatic Priest (King Boy Pato), Monday, 20 September 2010 11:56 (fifteen years ago)

Insightful criticism!

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 20 September 2010 12:10 (fifteen years ago)

If you're wondering what music King Boy Pato does enjoy, he can recently be found on the Interpol new s/t album thread ("Might get around to listening to this"): Interpol - Interpol

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 20 September 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

Pato wants a barricade to keep him away from shit music made by shit people for shit people

― ☞ ☹ (markers), Monday, 20 September 2010 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

Pato's trolling itt is boring and stuff

― ☞ ☹ (markers), Monday, 20 September 2010 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

We're always calling his bluff.

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 20 September 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

Great Pfork interview w/ Grinderman today:

http://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/7843-nick-cavegrinderman

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 20 September 2010 15:17 (fifteen years ago)

I'm just grinder man, y'all never mind me

― ☞ ☹ (markers), Monday, 20 September 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

Here is the gorgeous Nick Cave with his rabbit Fluffy:

http://mog1.state51.co.uk/tid/3d963eca0c73ddf4e16b0e32be22b53bcebd9e4a/eehbgui/hoifjumcc/1576770000054.jpeg

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 23 September 2010 13:37 (fifteen years ago)

Mo bunny blues?

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 23 September 2010 17:42 (fifteen years ago)

"Have you seen how Bunny's purring?"

― Duran (Doran), Thursday, 23 September 2010 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

I love that he's also toting an extremely dorky looking canvas shopping bag, like he's returning from Trader Joe's.

I've been surprised/amused to see some fairly huffy reviews in The Wire and NME about Grinderman's "boring misogyny." Does one really need to be familiar with his body of work going back to The Birthday Party to appreciate the humor in Grinderman?

― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:35 (fifteen years ago)

mate, worm tamer is actually awesome. His voice managed to not piss me of like it does with post BP stuff.

― owenf, Friday, 24 September 2010 12:55 (fifteen years ago)

an extremely dorky looking canvas shopping bag

That is a Current 93 shopping bag, the picture is from their most recent mailout.

― margana (anagram), Friday, 24 September 2010 13:34 (fifteen years ago)

Uhh guys, I just picked up Grinderman 2 this afternoon... and it FUCKING SLAYS.

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 25 September 2010 00:05 (fifteen years ago)

everything ilxor just said can also be said for myself.

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 27 September 2010 16:52 (fifteen years ago)

man this rules

― The Black NAGL's Death Thong (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 September 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)

nick is hilarious on this record! also like 65 percent of this seems to be nick trying to talk housewives into fucking him

― The Black NAGL's Death Thong (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

From Glasgow Barrowlands on Tuesday night...

http://krakow.zenfolio.com/img/s10/v18/p595028631-3.jpg

The live experience got a thumbs up from me, even if it was a frantic pain to shoot.

― krakow, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 23:58 (fifteen years ago)

he's awful close to that masturbating caveman

― she's one intense bitch, she rides a unicycle (arby's), Thursday, 30 September 2010 00:02 (fifteen years ago)

Nick really doesn't like the look of Ellis' instrument either.

Caption competition!

― krakow, Thursday, 30 September 2010 00:06 (fifteen years ago)

I AM SO FUCKING PUMPED UP FOR THIS SHOW

― da poupier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

i still haven't heard either of these records! how did that happen, i'd probably like them. tho i always feel like the odd man out in that i like cave's brooding piano ballad thang, too.

― tylerw, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

nah man i love that stuff too, nick is awesome but yeah grinderman smokes

― da poupier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

going to see the show tonight super duper excited

― there was usic in the cafes at night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

basically, fuck every other rock band you could see live right now, if grinderman comes to your city you need to go.

some horny old men making crazy noise...nick was inspirational, never seen him before....so funny and rock godlike.

― there was usic in the cafes at night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

warren ellis was doing really bad things to his guitar...he totally looks like a manical manson version of late period gone-to-seed richard manuel (like last waltz era)...the bassist looks like the dude from sexy beast when he plays nicholson's capo in the departed

― there was usic in the cafes at night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

fuuuuuuck, i thought about going

― BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, cave is one of those guys who just owns the stage. saw him w/ the bad seeds a couple years back and he killed. would definitely go see grinderman if they were playing near me.

― tylerw, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Grinderman 2 might be my favorite album of the year. Loud, obnoxious, funny, scary, catchy, noisy.

― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 13 December 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)

It's the sound of frustrated middle-aged men giving it their all one last time. That's fresher than the umpteenth love song from where I stand...

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 01:49 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, it might be my favorite of the year, too (along with gil scott heron; good year for middle-aged angst, i guess).

there's such a ferocious, menacing sexual vibe over the whole album. it's like steely dan got turned down by every girl they hit on in the gaucho era, and turned aggressive/borderline violent.

― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 14 December 2010 01:53 (fifteen years ago)

gotta see if someone nominated worm tamer for track of the year. i forgot to, but it's in my top five for 2010.

― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 14 December 2010 02:00 (fifteen years ago)

four years pass...

can anyone tell me if the RMX EP is worth getting?

― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 20 December 2014 22:33 (eleven years ago)

two years pass...

Enjoying this today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxqlb1--uKc

― Eazy, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:28 (eight years ago)

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