How Much Would You Pay For Your Favourite Band?

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Well, if you're a college promoter, you can find out here:

http://www.prettypolly.com/musicframeset.html

Get your pricetag guns out now!

― Dear Cafes of London (kate), Friday, 10 November 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'd rather spend the $30K on Bob Saget!

― wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Friday, 10 November 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Garbage 50-60K Stay tuned for Spring 2007 Availability

O RLY?

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 10 November 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Found one typo on that list. I'm sure the Spin Doctors are charging $10-15, not $10-15K.

― wordy rappaport (EstieButtez1), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Bob Saget (COMEDY)

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Friday, 10 November 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

lol at cake being twice as expensive as cam'ron. Hipsters = broke.

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Friday, 10 November 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Grandaddy 20-25K Stay tuned for Spring 2007 availability - yeah that's not gonna happen ...

When I see thread title, I can't help but think of the end of 'Fast Times at Ridgemont High' with Spiccoli paying Van Halen (ROTH VAN HALEN!) to play his birthday party after saving a supermodel from drowning - good times that Spiccoli! If I'm here and you're here, doesn't that make it OUR time?

― SonicDeath (BlackIronPrison), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Baja Men 10K Plus Backline Generally Available for Colleges

― bernard snowy (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Black Eyed Peas: BIG $$$
The Killers: HUGE $$$
!!!: 5-7.5K

The world isn't fair.

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

so wait... I could get Branford Marsalis, Dizzee Rascal, Eagle Eye Cherry, AND the Arcade Fire for less than the price of Dave Matthews? SOMEONE MAKE THIS HAPPEN

― bernard snowy (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Start your own college and you're halfway there!

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

well... just as long as I don't have to enroll there

― bernard snowy (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Hootie & the Blowfish 50-60K Generally Available for Colleges

narrowly edged out for the "most delusional" award by...

Limp Bizkit Big $$$ No College dates at this time

― bernard snowy (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Ice-T (spoken word) 15K
!!!

and I'm curious about this one:
Lloyd Banks 25K AVOID

― bernard snowy (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

I think Cake are becoming 311-level inexplicably durable as a touring act well beyond their 90's radio heyday. Someone should re-order this list by dollar amounts.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Holy crap, 311 commands as much as Bob Dylan.

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Wu Tang Clan (all original members)

Impressive trick!

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Friday, 10 November 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

And $5k for Trachtenberg Family Sideshow Players just makes me wanna shove 10% of my monthly wages aside so they can play my house this time next year.

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Friday, 10 November 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Wu Tang Clan (all original members) 75-100K

I'd pay twice as much for this!

aw fuck xpost

― bernard snowy (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Weezer 125-150K Not likely to tour in Spring 2007

I'll say!

― bernard snowy (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe ODB appears in hologram form, like that Elvis gig from a few years back?

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Friday, 10 November 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Travis Morrison 1-3K makes me want to cry

― bernard snowy (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Is this just straight up what gets paid to the band, or are there a ton of extras for god knows what included in that price? Some of those fees, even the 'small ones' (Against Me stood out) are kinda blowing my mind

― Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, that doesn't even begin to include riders, meal buy outs, etc.

Some of us are really underselling ourselves.

― Juan Milius (Roger Fidelity), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Cherry Poppin' Daddies 20-25K Generally Available for Colleges

wait... really?

i know autechre got $10k+ once at a, uh, local college.

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Arcade Fire cost way more than Kelis, oddly. Maybe because there are more band members?

― Brandon Edmark (Brandon E), Friday, 10 November 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

AF probably sold about as much as Kelis's last album.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 10 November 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Hahaha Cody ChestnuTT = cheap.

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 10 November 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

He will actually waive his $5k for an opportunity "to impregnate another behind [his] lover's back" (i.e., college health service does not offer morning-after contraceptives).

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 10 November 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Barenaked Ladies BIG $$$

Eh? (No Canuck)

― Rodney... (R. J. Greene), Friday, 10 November 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

it's a pretty fucked up world where out of that list, the cheapest act to put on is Bob Mould at 3-5k

― Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Friday, 10 November 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

for a moment i considered that one ^^ for my wife's birthday

― that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

lol at cake being twice as expensive as cam'ron. Hipsters = broke.

LOL indeed, I remember their singer wrote this thing back in the day about how proud he was of himself for being able to survive off of $600/mo.

― diebold with a vengeance (nickalicious), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

HOW DO YOU AFFORD YOUR ROCK N ROLL LIFESTYLE!?!?

― diebold with a vengeance (nickalicious), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Wolf Parade 25-30K

The fuck?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

That Wolf Parade figure is especially 'WTF' in light of this:

Steve Earle 15-20K

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

I can kind of understand that Wolf Parade thing, remember you're paying for "how many people of college age will come to a gig put on by this act" rather than "how many members of the public will by an album by this act". However, $25k for The Donnas is the stuff of madman's dreams.

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Friday, 10 November 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

Put together your best "cheap" show:

Hem 5-7K
Los Lobos 12.5-15K
Steve Earle 15-20K
Andrew W.K. 12.5-15K
Yo La Tengo 15K

Not necessarily in that order.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

The figures -- or at least the insanely high ones -- seem way skewed vs. what a band would get paid for a normal club gig, I'm guessing. Like, 3x higher or more. Colleges have always had the reputation of being plum shows for a struggling indie band, and I'm guessing this applies even up to the Outkast/311 level.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm thinking maybe Steve Earle specifically keeps his concert prices sort've low.

― diebold with a vengeance (nickalicious), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

Amon Tobin 5K
Kid Koala 5K
Rahzel 7.5-10K
M. Ward 15K

― diebold with a vengeance (nickalicious), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

And then I would make them all play TOGETHER.

― diebold with a vengeance (nickalicious), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously, some of these people, even in 2005, have a lot of nerve.

― Juan Milius (Roger Fidelity), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

this isnt as good as the thread where we learned that necro sold more than lady sov

― and what (ooo), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

This is why that small demographic of American people who have never been in an indie rock band hear 'the arts' and go 'fuck that shit.' And maybe rightfully so. I can live for a year on what M Ward makes at one college gig. These diva style demands are fucked, and at this point, there's so much precedent, it's not really even that artist's fault. What are you gonna do, be the one guy that undersells yourself on principle, and then goes back to work at the In Out Burger when the tour is over? No way.

Meanwhile, CDs are selling in record low numbers. I guess people just wanna party.

― Juan Milius (Roger Fidelity), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

I can live for a year on what M Ward makes at one college gig.

Umm, dude: that's kind of a dumb statement? I mean, M Ward might not be the best possible demonstration of this, but you realize the price quoted here is not, like, a paycheck, right? If you're Moby, you're gonna be spending thousands of dollars just transporting truckfuls of equipment to the show, leave alone actually purchasing the stuff in the first place, paying people to run it, and so on endlessly: they're getting paid as business entities to put on a show, not handed checks as individual employees.

I mean, that comment there is like saying "Spamalot brings in $XX million in raw ticket sales? How does the guy who plays Lancelot spend it all???"

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

What kind of overhead could a guy with an acoustic guitar actually have, exactly? This question from a guy who regularly tours with an acoustic guitar.

C'mon dude, musicians are either starving or they're spoiled brats. There's very few in between. Have you ever been backstage at any of these big shows and seen the absolute WASTE? Entire food trays, cases and cases of beer, bottles of liquor, just untouched.

And the ripples make waves, and artists are obviously starting to overcompensate because very few people can make a living from CD sales alone.

It's a microcosm of the movie business - why do you think a small popcorn costs $5.50?

Fuck these assholes.

― Juan Milius (Roger Fidelity), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

preemptive "nabisco OTM"

― bernard snowy (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

Hence my saying "M Ward is possibly not the best example of this," dude.

On another note, I think you might be wrong about the public: ticket sales (and conversation with normal folks) suggests that a whole lot of them genuinely enjoy going to see stars perform hit songs with the aid of planet-sized video screens and multiple costume changes and computerized light shows that require whole teams of highly skilled technicians to run them properly and possibly even 24-year-old blondes dancing with snakes that presumably require actual salaried animal wranglers (!) to travel with the artist at all times. I don't know about backstage -- I'm guessing the price of cold cuts and Jack Daniels is probably petty cash compared to the Big Busiess of the show as a whole -- but it's easy to argue that all the spectacle isn't so much "diva style" on the part of the artists and more just what a lot of audiences enjoy and remember about shows. And all that stuff turns your show into the sort of traveling-spectacle corporation where picking up even $75k for one performance really means just starting to recoup whatever you've invested. (Not saying those big-name artists aren't making good cash on these things, just that Dave Matthews isn't exactly bringing home $100k a night or whatever.)

As for musicians being either broke or starving, I've always believed that, but the price list here was actually suggesting the opposite to me -- the idea that big indie acts like Apples in Stereo or the Arcade Fire can command that much for a performance (for shows that are spectacle-free enough to keep the overhead low) makes me feel like there might actually be a middle ground for people to stick in.

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

That said, I will totally grant you that Moby probably has an overpaid vegan chef traveling with him. That's the free market, I guess.

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

P-Funk is easily the best deal per band member on that entire list.

― gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

wow.. rainer maria so cheap

― electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

yeah that tends to happen to bands that break up

― bernard snowy (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

okay, one more:
Gnarls Barkley 50-60K
Goodie Mob 12.5-15K

― bernard snowy (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 10 November 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

Someone should re-order this list by dollar amounts.

If you're really curious, I posted an Excel file with the artists ranked in that order over
here.

Enjoy.

― Jeff Reguil0n (Talent Explosion), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

yeah that tends to happen to bands that break up

oic. well that's just bloody lame. why did i have to find that out on such a crappy thread?

― electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

Um, sorry. This link should work.

― Jeff Reguil0n (Talent Explosion), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

Imperial Teen should cost more: based solely on the "how many teenagers have made YouTube video montages scored by this band's music" metric, they enjoy a decent teenage following!

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

I've known bands getting paid 1-2K by a college for playing to like a dozen people

― Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

I'd pay Doug E. Fresh 8-10K, but only if he did the Scientology rap.

― Rodney... (R. J. Greene), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

Black Eyed Peas: BIG $$$
The Killers: HUGE $$$
!!!: 5-7.5K
The world isn't fair.

If the world had been fair, The Killers would have made the most of the three.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

it says that it's for fall 2005.

― Alexei (alexei), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

How much for Hongroe to perform at your college ball?

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Friday, 10 November 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

I've known bands getting paid 1-2K by a college for playing to like a dozen people

Well the thing here about bands that don't actually draw is that ... you get events where a bunch of students are handed a budget to do an event, with no serious monetary consequences if they don't recoup -- it's easy for a couple music geeks to wind up bringing whatever hip band they want to see.

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

ORLY?
yo Hongro, "HUGE" is bigger than "BIG" ya knob

― Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

I.e., for every big budget handed to a massive student planning committee to put on a whole spring outdoor festival with Dave Matthews Band, there's some incident in fall where a couple guys from the college radio station get a $5k budget and use it to book a band that'll wind up basically playing a party for them and their friends.

(Cf in like 1992 or 93, before I went there, I think my college's annual big-budget spring outdoorsy-day somehow wound up headlined by Pavement, a band who -- at that point -- I'm sure pretty nobody at that school would have liked at all. Nothing but radio-station hipster action could account for that.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

(Haha and that was free music, so there wouldn't even be an obvious "didn't recoup budget" issue -- just a bunch of frat guys complaining about that one shitty band that had to start every song over three times.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 10 November 2006 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

Colleges have always had the reputation of being plum shows for a struggling indie band

totally true. i've heard of $5k paydays for bands that had probably spent that much to go on tour in the first place and were struggling to make enough to eat at some gigs.

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Saturday, 11 November 2006 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

the weirdest concert i've been to ever was here at nyu the "mystery concert" was animal collective and ghostface. last night they had les savy fav. the mystery concert was free. the faces of some of the ghostface fans when animal collective played was worth so so much.

― jonathan - stl (jonathan - stl), Saturday, 11 November 2006 05:45 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus Christ.

This is ... sobering.

― paid in cigarettes (paid in cigarettes), Saturday, 11 November 2006 10:22 (nineteen years ago)

WEARZ FUGAZI!!!

― paid in cigarettes (paid in cigarettes), Saturday, 11 November 2006 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

"(Cf in like 1992 or 93, before I went there, I think my college's annual big-budget spring outdoorsy-day somehow wound up headlined by Pavement, a band who -- at that point -- I'm sure pretty nobody at that school would have liked at all. Nothing but radio-station hipster action could account for that.)

-- nabisco (--...), November 10th, 2006"

We had Taking Back Sunday last year. Why can't I have an amazing surprise like this?

― paid in cigarettes (paid in cigarettes), Saturday, 11 November 2006 10:51 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, now how much would you pay for your favorite band to suck yur dick?

― Scorpion Tea (Dick Butkus), Saturday, 11 November 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

We had fucking Ryan Cabrera at the University of Texas a couple years ago. Hell yes.

― Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Saturday, 11 November 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

I would put together the following at my "dream" college gig (drawing only from what's available on that list) -

(opening)

Ted Leo & The Pharmacists 6-7.5K
Yo La Tengo 15K
My Morning Jacket 20-25K
Sonic Youth 25-30K
Wilco 30-35K

(headlining)

― Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Saturday, 11 November 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

"indie"

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Saturday, 11 November 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

no shit

― Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Saturday, 11 November 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

I was talking about the White Stripes and co. $150,000-$200,000? My god.

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Saturday, 11 November 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it's almost as if the White Stripes sell a shitload of albums and have a bunch of people come to their gigs or something.

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Saturday, 11 November 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

how many people go to a university gig? If they're charging 200,000 bucks, there's no chance to see them in a smaller setting surely. At $50 a ticket, you need 4000 people just to pay the band.

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Saturday, 11 November 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

As stated prior, university gigs aren't run for profit, they're basically a committee given free reign to burn money.

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Saturday, 11 November 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

oh, now I understand. The system makes a lot of sense!

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Saturday, 11 November 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

HOw the fuck does 311 pull in as much money as bob dylan. . .

― Thomas Mehlt (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

the biggest steal on the list is Low for 5K - wow!

― Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 02:28 (nineteen years ago)

HOw the fuck does 311 pull in as much money as bob dylan...

They make 12-year-old girls horny. Fratboys love 'em. They felled Scott Stapp.

― King-a-Ling (King-a-Ling), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

or, why does that 35 year old, slightly washed up hooker make as much as the legendary 65 year old hooker.

― bendy (bendy), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 05:48 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

I would pay quite a bit to see the beatles.

― our work is never over, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 03:31 (eighteen years ago)

ummmmm is beirut really demanding 12.5-15 thou a show???

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 03:39 (eighteen years ago)

Here is my Burn Money Festival 2008. I might have some sequencing issues, but I am not sure anyone is coming anyway.

Second Stage
Teddy Geiger 15-20K
Click Five 12.5-15K
D12 40-50K

Secret Shows:
Rusted Root 25-35K
Melissa Etheridge 100K+

Main Stage:
Shaggy 40-50K
Matisyahu 100K
P.O.D. 75-100K
Pharrell 60-75K
Hootie & the Blowfish 50-60K
Limp Bizkit Big $$$

― ButterGut, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 04:47 (eighteen years ago)

please feel free to replace Pharrell with Sugar 50-70K

― ButterGut, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 04:54 (eighteen years ago)

Sugar Ray

― ButterGut, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 04:54 (eighteen years ago)

How the hell is Ween making only $30Kish when I'm paying $35 a ticket?

― Helltime Redux, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 05:41 (eighteen years ago)

Luckily there's Goldenvoice.

― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 05:51 (eighteen years ago)

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