is royal trux the influence du jour?

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basing this on the song-and-a-half of indian jewellry and brightblack morning light that i've heard and what i've read here

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 13 November 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

How good's the heroin these days?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 November 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

Real good. With china white you get eggroll.

Juan Milius (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 13 November 2006 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

I heard ver TRUX's version of "Money for Nothing" for the first time in July of this year. It was released in 1998, as a B-side. It anticipates, surrounds and rolls unthinkingly over the entire career of the White Stripes. So of course in mark s's twisted head this means the White Stripes have "influenced" RT, or at least how we think of RT, which I suppose is correct as far as it goes. It certainly influenced me to remember that RT could be far more high-energy at times than I usually have them pegged for.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 13 November 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

i just found the "sunshine + grease" CD single in a used shop. I was overly joyed. The two bonus tracks are no great heck, but I haven't checked out the video yet.
I heard M4N for the first time this summer/spring too! I heard the Dire Straits version yesterday, and felt like Knopfler & co. didn't really understand the song at all. Regardless, I don't see what it has to do w/ White Stripes OR what White Stripes have to do with du jour?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 13 November 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

It has to do with the White Stripes because it sounds like what the White Stripes would like to sound like, but never quite do. As for du jour - touché

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 13 November 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

by the way who sings on M4N? is it Hagerty? it sounds like somebody else, somebody like John Doe. i would LOVE to hear X do that song.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 13 November 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

haha i just searched and apparently i said the exact same thing about M4N less than a month ago

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 13 November 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

okay. I haven't heard the last two White Stripes albums beyond a few of the singles (over a crummy tv set), so I don't really know what they're doing lately anyway.

xpost

I always thought it was Hagerty/never questioned that it might not be/sitting here recalling it, the Jennifer vocals are all that come to mind. I'll listen to it when I get home.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 13 November 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

What RTX sounds like Brightblack Morning Light?

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

It anticipates, surrounds and rolls unthinkingly over the entire career of the White Stripes.

i love the RTX cover (and RTX) in general, and the white stripes, but i don't think that's even remotely true. not sonically, not in concept, not in execution, not in mindset.

i am not a nugget (stevie), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

What RTX sounds like Brightblack Morning Light?

'=back to school' (best trux song EVER) has that stoned, glorious lope; 'sitting in a car with an eagle on the hood' too, though much darker.

i am not a nugget (stevie), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

Tracer hear more Trux, they're pretty hi NRG

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like the White Stripes, so maybe that has something to do with it? I was reminded of the almost out of control, herky-jerkiness of the WS song whose video was lego animation, if that helps you home in on my analogy. That's one of like three WS songs I know so maybe I shouldn't have brought it up, since I know so little about them. But then M4N is a very atypical RT song, in its energy, its conventionality. It's a throwaway almost but it's brilliant in its bright, thrashy driving power which to me derives from just total faith in the beat, total faith in the riff, so much faith that the riff doesn't even need playing properly. It is amazing to dance to, too, which I can't say for most RT songs as much as I love them.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 13 November 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Thames, plz advise

(I have the UK EP, Cats and Dogs, Twin Infinitives, first Royal Trux Royal Trux, the single with "Shockwave Rider" - they all make my blood pulse but in a sleepy/jumpy, coffee and pot kind of way)

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

I always say this but "Accelerator"! It's so so so good and it jumps properly. Most of their stuff gets me the way yr saying, energy but in a drunken/drugged, not really let's jitterbug type way. There's other stuff but it's spread out, say over the singles box, and really now I think about that 2 yr period (the box, "Accelerator") is what made me love them etc

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

the box = Singles, Live, Unreleased?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yeppers!

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

THE BOXXXX

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

i think i was thinking more about the Stoner Americana aesthetic, the rural hippy/junkie underage runaway thing that lots of new acts seem to be into. it reminds me a bit of some of the royal trux vibe but the new stuff does seem more geodesic dome + folky drones than the trux's rustpainted muscle car + Grand Funk boogie.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

okay, y'know, I think I know what Tracer means w/r/t M4NvsWhiteStripes, there's that, um, SINGULARITY of the guitar riff on Money For Nothing that's almost even atypical of Trux, if anything is typical, that's sort of a hallmark of whitestripeyness. it's almost too bad they didn't get the reverb?echo?whatever effect of the Dire Straits version (which sorta sounds like it was recorded in an empty stadium, there's just so much SPACE around the guitar.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 13 November 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

tracer, thing is, to me the white stripes use a broader pallette than the trux. and i think jack makes exactly the records he wants to, rather than is straining to cop any single particular particular style.

they're both purists, i guess - honouring very diff fires in very diff ways.

in the UK at least trux are best known for accelerator, so i guess that's why some aren't seeing a connection to the stoner loaf likes of Brightback... but the tense, tight fuzzrock of 'ready' doesn't hit the spot for me as much as 'cats & dogs' and 'dogs of love'.

i am not a nugget (stevie), Monday, 13 November 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

--------tracer, thing is, to me the white stripes use a broader pallette than the trux

Less dosequis dude!

808 the Bassking (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 01:51 (nineteen years ago)

M4N here

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 03:49 (nineteen years ago)

Less dosequis dude!

urrr, i meant on the mfn cover! or something! i dunno, i love both bands, but they seem *hugely different, in tone and in style and attitude. whether its apocryphal, the out-of-their-minds junkie thing looms large over most of Trux's stuff, while the stripes are hugely anti- that whole thing. they're more 'wholesome' in every sense - they wouldn't do the more tripped out experimental stuff the trux do (which i love), and i can't imagine the Trux doing something as sentimental (in the best way) as 'ugly as i seem'.

weird coinkidink - the press release for the last howling hexxx album said it was influenced equally by fela kuti and the white stripes (tho as ever with hagerty, the tongue could be placed artfully in the cheek there)

i am not a nugget (stevie), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

Stevie I totally agree with you.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

yay! can you tell me what i'm going on about tho, cos i'm confused now...

i think i have typed this on every ILM royal trux thread, but everyone really must go out and hear 'back to school', off the dogs of love EP and on the box set.

i am not a nugget (stevie), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

are there any bands that sound like "Edge of the Ape Oven"???

if so, i want.

yetimike (McGonigal), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

is back to school the one with the big lazy, looping bassline stevie? i like all the songs off that

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

rory gallagher

dave q (listerine), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

exactly the one, tracer, the first trux song i ever heard... they played it live when i saw them in summer of 98 and it was GLORIOUS

i am not a nugget (stevie), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

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Guy In Accounting Who Just E-mails Around YouTube Links (Mr.Que), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)


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