Pop Justice Album

:-)

it just makes me think a bit less of the sugababes :(

oh plz!

i find this compilation very depressing, like rereading an ilm thread from two or three years ago. it feels so stale.

nice cover tho

OK, this officially sucks.

The CD tracklisting is quite disappointing for what PJ stands for, most of the stuff you can already get on other pop albums anyway.

what is this brand all about?

the email is just a press release only with slightly amusing wording a la smash hits.

he never seems to write about music. is the album the pop record for OMM readers we've all been waiting for?

probably coming soon the 90s popstar style fanclub

I am of course aware that no one outside of ILM or Popjustice will even consider buying this.

Nice cover though :)

errrr, really? rihanna, girls allowed, sugababes?

what are the books?

thank you :)

2. The Automatic
Monster (Culprit One Mix)
WELL KNOWN

3. Sugababes
I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor
WELL KNOWN

4. Girls Aloud
Love Machine (demo) WELL KNOWN

5. Annie
Me Plus One ILM PASSIM

6. Alesha
Lipstick ;_;

7. Ladytron
Destroy Everything You Touch NOT FAMOUS

8. Franz Ferdinand
Do You Want To WELL KNOWN

9. Justice V Simian
We Are Your Friends WELL KNOWN

10. Client
Lights Go Out NEVER HEARD OF

11. The Similou
All This Love (The Drill Mix) NEVER HEARD OF

12. The Pussycat Dolls
Hot Stuff (I Want You Back) WELL KNOWN

13. Stefy
Chelsea NEVER HEARD OF

14. Pet Shop Boys
It's A Sin (Barfly Version) QUITE FAMOUS

15. Rachel Stevens
Some Girls WELL KNOWN

16. Britney Spears
Do Somethin' WELL KNOWN

17. Kelly Clarkson
Since You Been Gone (Jason Nevins Radio Edit) WELL KNOWN (PROBABLY SHIT)

18. Scissor Sisters
Mary (Junkie XL Radio Edit) SEE ABOVE

19. Nelly Furtado
Maneater WELL KNOWN

20. The Killers
Mr. Brightside (Thin White Duke Radio Edit) WELL KNOWN

21. Sophie Ellis-Bextor
Dear Jimmy IS THIS NEW?

22. Girls Aloud
Biology (Radio Edit / Tony Lamezma Mix) WELL KNOWN

Blimey.

http://www.popjustice.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=104&Itemid=79

*altho this makes me wonder how difficult it is to clear tracks for these and other mixes of this type - given the wealth of them these days

Sorry, I can't fathom that!

oh plz!

THE RIHANNA CANON IN ORDER:

unfaithful
pon de replay
break it off
if it's loving that you want
sos
we ride

I shall probably buy this, even though there are at least 3 tracks on it I actively dislike. Sounded like a fun party mix to me when I sampled it on a listening post t'other week.

xpost

there was a bit about "anti-rockism" i read in plan b (in borders, quickly) it made no sense whatsoever.

-- pscott (kowalski9...), November 16th, 2006.

i honestly wonder if its readers know what the fuck its writers are on about.

this sentence from the review nrq linked to nails it.

psb good. forming an entire aesthetic based on trying vainly to recapture what psb were like = REALLY REALLY BAD AND AWFUL.

x-post!

there are objections to the music! the music is either old and overplayed, or crap!

"there are objections to the music! the music is either old and overplayed, or crap!"

I guess it's harder for me to see the first half of your objection because the only Australian hit in the tracklisting is "S.O.S."

surely the idea is that it takes pop as close to the edge as you can whilst still retaining some semblance of pop 'attitude' or aesthetic, AND remaining popular.

you can scoff at that but nobody is actually making anything actually as aloof yet keenly pop as a '06 version of 'Close To The Edge' or 'West End Girls' - are they?

forming an entire aesthetic based on trying vainly to recapture what psb were like = REALLY REALLY BAD AND AWFUL.

why so bad? if someone was actually capable of doing it really well surely this would be good? bearing in mind the past will always be revisited/recycled.

its presence reveals that this is a cd for people who believe the arrant nonsense that 'sos' is rihanna's best single.

i mean 'Edit' sorry. emulating Yes should be avoided in this situation (OR SHOULD IT?)

I guess it DOES express the Pop Justice aesthetic quite well, but I think some are saying, this aesthetic is dying or becoming stale.

When I first began posting here it was quite shocking and interesting and occasionally infuriating to read people talking about manufactured pop being good.

But that was say, 4 years ago. Now a lot of the music on that comp doesn't feel very different from the sort of middlebrow that it seems (seemed?) to rail against. Just as contrived, just as caught up in notions of authenticity.

in the meantime we are not so desperate for fantastic pop that we have to pay any attention whatsoever to the legions of idiots who are doing it really badly!

1. It isn't Lex's personal playlist
2. Saying that you like the music on this album won't get people's jaws dropping in shock, irregardless of whether you like the music or not.

If you take all the tracks on this comp together what is actually LEFT to rail against in Pop? Or is it just railing against (the popularity/media bias towards) guitar-based MOR (thom, blunt, razorlight, coldplay)? If the latter this seems reasonable (i hate that stuff and think this stuff is better) - but this comp could be played at a party whereas a comp ft. those bands presumably isn't. So that comparison and setting up a rivalry between them only goes so far I guess.

4 years ago lots of people were complaining the Destiny's Child et. al. were too much accepted by the critical establishment... But those people were perhaps people whose own shock and infuriation occurred circa 1998/1999?

I sometimes wonder if the solidification of a Popjustice aesthetic at this point (c. 2002) was almost a reaction to the way in which, around about that time, "pop" was critically acceptable as long as it was futuristic R&B.

Lex can correct me if I'm wrong but I get the impression that part of his issue with Popjustice is the way it presents the shoe as now being on the other foot: Xenomania are the standard-bearers for pop, R&B is sidelined.

the difference is that the PJ aesthetic is by definition about very well-known bits of music, and failed versions of same.

grime comps are more justified in that the music was barely heard at all when new.

Well...in this case the decline of its aesthetic kinda equals said aesthetics acceptance doesn't it? I mean once we know what that aesthetic is is it not kind of over?

I don't think Pop Justice are necessarily to blame, but when I see comps like this, in whatever genre, I think, possibly due to the fact I used to work in a shop, "ugh I am going to get asked for this comp for the next 5 years", I don't like these kind of alternative populist compilations, it's like if half the people who bought them made any effort to check out new music they would have all these tracks already.

That might sound snobby or whatever but why apologise for people not bothering with stuff until it is spammed into their brains.

(Oh yes I forgot to say earlier, I love Chamillionaire)

That might sound snobby or whatever but why apologise for people not bothering with stuff until it is spammed into their brains.

why should EVERYONE make the effort anyway? how did people manage before the internet? they looked to tv, radio and press and they'd go into music stores and buy blind more (actually this may be a constant altho there is more to choose from now so it's probably more overwhelming). what does 'making the effort' entail now anyway? esp. re Pop.

Okay I can imagine how that would be very annoying. I can't really imagine that happening, but again, Popjustice and the kind of pop it profiles both have such a low profile over here that maybe my perspective is totally skewed. For me it almost is like grime - you can't get copies of What Will The Neighbours Say or Come & Get It for less than about $45! (that's almost 20 pounds)

Steve...it's very little effort, read some music sites, take an interest, take control of what you are buying. I mean I'm not saying I don't just "consume" with stuff I buy, I do plenty, but with books/music at least you can try and control your own course even a little.

HMV has some explaining to do then. Lex send me some copies and I will hawk them for $20 Australian dollars and send you half back!

x-post - there is no such thing as "r stevens deals" in Oz.

i don't think this is completely at odds with the idea of someone buying this sort of compilation. i probably wouldn't have bought this compilation either and obv. i do read music sites and take an interest but i don't mind this comp being out there at all and i still want a Now That's What I Call Edgy Pop in the meantime.

my Wu-Tang greatest hits CD came in the post today. why did i buy this only now (or indeed at all)? and why did i buy the Electric Boutique compilation?

I guess that also, as a long-time reader of Popjustice, I wanted a physical souvenir of the experience. I say "souvenir" because I'm taking less interest in the site now than I used to, and so maybe there's a touch of instant nostalgia about some of the older choices.

*deploys handily-situated calculator*

about a dozen, then...

DIE COOL POP MUSIC DIE

you're so rockist! the PopJustice compilation is awesome. I would never have heard of Justice without it.

The Automatic are rubbish, though.