Final track of the album with looooooooooong-ass silence. Dud or Crime Against Humanity?

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What the fuck is wrong with people?

― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 18 November 2006 05:52 (nineteen years ago)

What about long ass silence and then bonus track? That's even more obnoxious if you ask me.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 18 November 2006 05:53 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously, even with acts I like this shit makes me want to skin some motherfucker alive, the sew their hide back on, only with a couple pounds of rock salt added.

― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 18 November 2006 05:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that's the usual manifestation of this shit. 11 (or whatever) minutes of silence, then a track that probably should have been left off the album anyway. NURSE ON A COCK, CD SEQUENCERS

― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 18 November 2006 05:55 (nineteen years ago)

Blame Nevermind. (Not the first to do this but obv. when it became bigger than god a lot of people got the same idea.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 November 2006 05:55 (nineteen years ago)

Ladytron, The Witching Hour, utter silence

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 18 November 2006 06:02 (nineteen years ago)

ever been in a bar where someone innocently (or not so) plays "something in the way" on the jukebox? the song plays, then there's no music and people either start thinking someone needs to play another song or they just forget about the music altogether, and then that last hidden track suddenly comes blaring out and everybody jumps and then it keeps going and going. i saw one woman pleading with a bartender to please make it stop.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 18 November 2006 07:13 (nineteen years ago)

Also see 25 minutes of "Revolution #9" for a dollar.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 18 November 2006 07:16 (nineteen years ago)

Now that's just cruel.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Saturday, 18 November 2006 07:17 (nineteen years ago)

disappointed to hear this on the new Mastodon, especially with a useless Josh Homme letter

― pinder (pinder), Saturday, 18 November 2006 07:19 (nineteen years ago)

Honky by the Melvins ends with just 20 minutes of nuthin'. Lame as hell.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Saturday, 18 November 2006 07:50 (nineteen years ago)

In the iPod age, this should be a punishible offense.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Saturday, 18 November 2006 07:50 (nineteen years ago)

Arguably worse than long-ass silence...

Liars - "This Dust Makes That Mud"

― Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Saturday, 18 November 2006 08:09 (nineteen years ago)

Nothing but venomous hatred for this practice. STOP IT! It's not funny or clever.

― opalescent arcs (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 18 November 2006 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, yes, the hatred agreed entirely. It just creates such a gaping hole, such a harmful impurity in what had previously been a solid work of art.

In the same vein as Stephen Bush's suggestion, Fantomas 'Delirium Cordia' is heinous, although it at least has the decency to crack a semi-amusing joke right at the death.

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Saturday, 18 November 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

(and another one along those lines is Pulp's 'The Day After The Revolution', UK release)

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Saturday, 18 November 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

The one exception to this is Beck, whose bonus tracks are usually either wonderful or wonderfully bizarre/surprising when they eventually kick in.

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Saturday, 18 November 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm, I hate Beck, but am in that tiny minority that loves "That Dust Made This Mud."

That's all off topic, though.

The Roots used to do this on all their albums. And though I love them, FUCK YOU AHMIR THOMPSON AND TARIQ TROTTER!

― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 18 November 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

In the iPod age, this should be a punishible offense.

In this age, it's quaint that anyone would do this on a new release, as though popping a CD in the console and listening to it start to finish is the normal mode of music consumption. One of my favorite releases of the year, Dirty Faces Get Right with God has a minute of silence before the final track. Which isn't too bad, but still dumb.

― bendy (bendy), Saturday, 18 November 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

I love that Liars song. It's fun.

― Good-Time Slim, Uncle Doobie, and the Great 'Frisco Freak-Out (sixteen sergeants, Saturday, 18 November 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

if a cd is silent long enough i just take it out and put on something else. what bugs me more are the 20 minute "ambient" tracks that end albums after the album should have ended already. just cuz ya have the time...

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 18 November 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

I think Scott is right: a lot of this comes down to "We have to get over 70 minutes!" To which I reply: "Oh yeah, how come?"

― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 18 November 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Whoever thought of it first (possibly Rahsaan Roland Kirk): Congratulations, a halfway clever and faintly amusing prank. But certainly not clever enough that everybody from NIN to Robert fucking Fripp to whoever had to make it a tradition. All the obnoxiousness and timewasting pointlessness of the live "encore" updated for the digital age. Arghh! Extreme dud. KNOCK IT OFF!! (Blame Nirvana, why not.)

― Monty Von Byonga (Monty Von Byonga), Saturday, 18 November 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

And on a related note, how the FUCK is Erykah Badu's "Worldwide Underground" an EP? It's over 50 minutes long!

― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 18 November 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

some bands (Mercury Rev, for example) have divided up the 40 minutes of silence into individual 15-second "songs", making it easier on the iPod programmer...

― hank (hank s), Saturday, 18 November 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

i just did this on a mix cd i sent out...padding it with ten six-second tracks from a liquor giants album. i wanted to see if anyone listened to it...

― (your name here) has been guilty of name-dropping in the past (john s), Saturday, 18 November 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

The Roots used to do this on all their albums. And though I love them, FUCK YOU AHMIR THOMPSON AND TARIQ TROTTER!

I like having to count their track numbers to find the songs i like since they are all like 234, 235, 236...

This is a relatively new problem because I hated the Roots until this album!

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Saturday, 18 November 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

Super Furry Animals, like Beck, have had a tendency to have marvellous bonus tracks.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 18 November 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

.. specially the rewindie on "Guerilla".

Also, see some RobWilliams album which has long ass silence, then he just says "Naah, I'm not doing one this time!"

― mark grout (mark grout), Saturday, 18 November 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

"Fuck! You mean when I rip these CDs at 40x or get them free off the net, I sometimes have to EDIT these tracks if I don't want to manually skip past them? Just throw me into the center of Baghdad already!"

― gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Saturday, 18 November 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

"But I don't have TIME to find a free editing program off the nets. FUCK YOU artists for doing this a decade before the iPod was invented... assholes!"

― gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Saturday, 18 November 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

"Whoever thought of it first (possibly Rahsaan Roland Kirk): Congratulations, a halfway clever and faintly amusing prank. But certainly not clever enough that everybody from NIN to Robert fucking Fripp to whoever had to make it a tradition. All the obnoxiousness and timewasting pointlessness of the live "encore" updated for the digital age. Arghh! Extreme dud. KNOCK IT OFF!! (Blame Nirvana, why not.)"

Well, may as well blame Nirvana since Roland Kirk was already dead and cold by the time CD's were invented.

(Did Kirk do this on a vinyl album? Or did somebody pull this stunt on a Kirk reissue CD?

― Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Saturday, 18 November 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

Power to the People! Get your picket signs, let's storm the barricades at dawn! Unforgiveable!

― Umpire Teen (Bimble...), Saturday, 18 November 2006 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

I think the last artist to do this to me was Polyphonic Spree and it especially pissed me off because their damn album wasn't even that great to begin with. Although I believe Stone Roses did this on Second Coming, too didn't they? ARRRGH. Once again: the damn album wasn't even that great to begin with guys! Give it up!

― Umpire Teen (Bimble...), Saturday, 18 November 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bluejake.com/images04/misc/2004_9_panty15.jpg

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Saturday, 18 November 2006 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/glastonbury99/images/protest.jpg

― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Saturday, 18 November 2006 23:41 (nineteen years ago)

I still use good, old portable CD players rather than playing mp3's. Which means I am still able to use the good old fast forward in those cases.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 18 November 2006 23:41 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but Nevermind was k-classic in that you could put "Something In The Way" on the jukebox in a pub full of neds and then watch their reaction as "Endless Nameless" kicked in after five minutes of silence.

― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Sunday, 19 November 2006 00:43 (nineteen years ago)

Bah, should've read the thread more carefully :)

― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Sunday, 19 November 2006 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

Arguably worse than long-ass silence...

Liars - "This Dust Makes That Mud"

the liars can be douchey, but this track works pretty well on the vinyl lock groove

(jukebox talk) Also see 25 minutes of "Revolution #9" for a dollar.

this brings up fond memories of college bars and giving up 5 dollars to assault the crowd with 18 plays of "U Can't Touch This" against 10 plays of "Pray".

― songs and ballads of the bituminous miners (sanskrit), Sunday, 19 November 2006 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

Well, may as well blame Nirvana since Roland Kirk was already dead and cold by the time CD's were invented.

(Did Kirk do this on a vinyl album? Or did somebody pull this stunt on a Kirk reissue CD?

He did something similar on 1975's double-album The Case of the Three-Sided Dream in Audio Color. Side 4, supposedly blank (hence the title) has a surprise "telephone conversation" after 12 minutes of silence.

Actually, it was still a clever trick when Nirvana did it, so I don't really hold a grudge (grunge?) against 'em. Just wish everyone else hadn't followed in their wake.

― Monty Von Byonga (Monty Von Byonga), Sunday, 19 November 2006 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

That chick's smokin hot

― 808 the Bassking (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 19 November 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

Is it true that the bonus track from NEVERMIND is only on the earlier pressings?

― Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Sunday, 19 November 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

that liars record is one of my favourites of the 00s thus far and as far as i'm concerned ends on a weirdly perfect note. i never quite know when to hit stop, so frequently let it play through

― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Sunday, 19 November 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

xpost the earliest pressings don't have it.

― mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 19 November 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah -- if you have one without the bonus track, you were one of the first ones to buy it, therefore making you cool or something.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

ban this shit forever and bury it deep

― Goodnight, Mr. Johnson. (country matters), Sunday, 11 January 2009 23:09 (seventeen years ago)

Sounds of the Satellites by Laika used to be on my rotating roster of "good to fall asleep to" records, except that I'd always forget about the loooooong silence at the end of the record with that damn "Laika the space dog" radio snippet at the end. That shit always woke me up.

― Pain don't hurt. (Pillbox), Sunday, 11 January 2009 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

OH YOU GUYS I'M TRYING TO SLEEP DURING YOUR MUSIC maybe not the most reasonable of complaints though.

― ledge, Sunday, 11 January 2009 23:42 (seventeen years ago)

lol yeah. I've listened to plenty of Laika's records during waking (baking?) hours, though, so I suppose it evens out.

― Pain don't hurt. (Pillbox), Sunday, 11 January 2009 23:47 (seventeen years ago)

OTO, if I were trying to impress you with my ambience, I would be honored if you felt comforted enough by my music to use it as an actual narcotic.

― Pain don't hurt. (Pillbox), Sunday, 11 January 2009 23:53 (seventeen years ago)

this is never not fucking idiocy people

― Goodnight, Mr. Johnson. (country matters), Sunday, 11 January 2009 23:54 (seventeen years ago)

At least the silence-then-bonus-track thing is a "prank" of some lame sort. I've got 2 CDs that repeat the entire album as part of the final track: Shooting at Unarmed Men's Yes! Tinittus! and one of Exene's post-X bands (Auntie Christ, I think). What on earth if the point of that?

x-post - And yes, the ambient-y album that ends with a loud track thing sucks. Curse you, Fripp & Eno's Beyond Even!

― Hideous Lump, Sunday, 11 January 2009 23:57 (seventeen years ago)

if there's noise and shit it's obvioulsy stupid but I wish more albums had long ass silences at the end because my player makes this little clicking and spinning sound when a cd has stopped and that always disrupts my naps

― sonderangerbot, Monday, 12 January 2009 00:03 (seventeen years ago)

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