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I've not listened to a rock band in a few months. I don't see any new country cds that excite me. But I do want to listen to something made with guitars.

I'm thinking maybe this would be a good time to get something canonical, but I don't really have any idea where to start. Bearing in mind that my favourite "guitar-based" artist is probably Spiritualized, has anyone got any suggestions?

I was thinking of Velvet Underground purely as a guess as to what I might like....

Anyway what do you guys think? I have very very few albums from before 98 or so............

― Ronan, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

SABBATH

― Tom, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

SLAYER!!!! BUY Reign in Blood NOW!!!

― Alex in SF, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Or the 3rd Velvets album. Whatever, it's all good.

― Alex in SF, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Talking Heads, 'More Songs About Buildings & Food'
Butthole Surfers, 'Locust Abortion Technician'
Contortions, 'Buy'
Funkadelic, 'Free Your Mind and Your Ass Will Follow'
Stooges, 'Funhouse'
Flipper, 'Generic'
AC/DC, 'Powera ge' (should appeal to country fans - seriously)

― dave q, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I refer you to my "I'm never buying a metal album ever" comments of earlier this week.

― Ronan, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry. Didn't see that one. Yeah. The Velvets are good.

― Alex in SF, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

3rd velvets album = avant-schmindie not rock (it's still good tho)

anything by carcass is good ronan

― mark s, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dead C= Repent.

― Julio Desouza, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

''3rd velvets album = avant-schmindie not rock (it's still good tho)''

Or not. because there are many songs of the 'I just took some heroin and am not bothered' type (pale blue eyes, for instance).

― Julio Desouza, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You MEANIE Mark (Carcass, geez)! But it's avant-schmindie not rock in similar ways that Spiritualized is.

― Alex in SF, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Drive Like Jehu - Drive Like Jehu

Not sure if it's in the canon, but it sure do rock.

― RickyT, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh I have Fun House, absolutely love it.

― Ronan, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Sonic Youth - Sister or EVOL

― RickyT, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Siamese Dream.

― , Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

happy mondays - bummed
butthole surfers - hairway to steven
mercury rev - yrself esteem
flaming lips - transmissions from the satellite heart
the fall - totales turn (its now or never)
suede - coming up
adorable - against perfection
medicine - shot forth self living
pussy galore - dial m for motherfucker
stereolab - switched on
the velvets album with what goes on or foggy notion on
flowered up - a life of brian
bongwater - power of pussy

― gareth, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll go with that Drive Like Jehu suggestion. Get both, actually.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

cerberus shoal - ...and farewell to hightide

― gareth, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

There's a dance act called Medicine now........I was pretty sure the name had already been used.

― Ronan, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ronan, if you're going to start with the Velvet Underground, try _1969 Velvet Underground Live with Lou Reed_, Vol. 1--the one with the green cover with an airbrushed painting of somebody's ass on the front, and nine magnificent minutes of "What Goes On" on the inside.

― Douglas, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Psykick Dancehall is pretty good intro to pre Brix Fall if you fancy going in that direction.

― RickyT, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

get yourself chuck berry's great 28, a bo diddley chess records compilation, the kinks konspiracy, the milkshakes play rhythm & beat favourites, the rolling stones 12 x 5 or now!, les sexareenos, pebbles vol 2, lookey dookey, & a huey piano smith & the clowns compilation with "don't you just know it" on it.

― fritz, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Television - Marquee Moon

Husker Du - Zen Arcade/New Day Rising/Flip Your Wig/Candy Apple Grey/Warehouse:Songs And Stories

The Saints - The Saints/Eternally Yours

Galaxie 500 - On Fire/This Is Our Music

― David Gunnip, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Throwing Muses - first two albums or "University"
Underground Lovers - Leaves Me Blind
Kitchens Of Distinction - The Death Of Cool
The Pixies - Doolittle
My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything

― Tim, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Recommending some of these titles to someone who has almost no rock is absurd, I think. Only Fritz seems to be on the right track, as far as I'm concerned. Not that I expect Ronan to follow my recommendations anyway, but I'd like to suggest From Elvis in Memphis.

― Sean, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Let me clarify: not that some fine albums aren't being recommended here, but do you really think the Butthole Surfers, Sonic Youth or Husker Du are the place to start for someone who is trying to get their feet wet in rock? I know, you snarky bastards are going to say "yes, of course!...."

― Sean, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ronan you would like that elvis in memphis lp, I think. Nice mix of country & soul with fat beats.

― fritz, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, OF course! Heeheeheehee.

― Alex in SF, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I, controversially, was going to suggest 'Loaded' as a somewhat unrepresentative but accessible starting point for the Velvets.

― dan, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i remember what nitsuh said when he asked for rock recommendations earlier this year: these are so ilm recommendations (which admittedly brings a tear to my eye.)

re: drive like jehu...i think yank crime is outta print, but should be STANDARD OWNING PROCEDURE.

― jess, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

(1) BIZARRO by the Wedding Present - More frantically strummed electric guitars than you can shake a stick at.

(2) KILLING JOKE by Killing Joke

(3) I AGAINST I by Bad Brains

(4) MARQUEE MOON by Television

(5) "Another Day Another Dollar" E.P. by Gang of Four

― Alex in NYC, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ignoring what you say re Spiritualized:

Status Quo - 12 Gold Bars
T Rex - Tanx (CD reissue)

Not totally ignoring it: Slowdive - Blue Day and/or Souvlaki.

― Jeff W, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Pavement-"slanted and enchanted"
Black Sabbath-"Vol. 4"
Creedence Clearwater Revival-"Creedence Gold"
Soundgarden-"Superunknown"

― michael bourke, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Killing Joke = techno-goth alex (it's still good, but it ain't rock).

And Elvis in Memphis = nice mix of country & soul with fat beatz ie NOT ROCK!! Come on ppl. Ronan wuvs Banging Tekno => he is hardly going to be put off by riffs and noise...

― mark s, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Lotion - the Telephone Album (the first three songs are grade 1 rawk)

Soundgarden - Superunknown

Pond - The Practice of Joy Before Death

Weezer - Pinkerton

― jel --, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

(i was seconding superunkown! :)

You should really get some Alice Cooper, Megadeth, Sepultura, Guns'N'Roses...

Do you have "Appetite for Destruction"? You should get that.

― jel --, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Elvis in Memphis = nice mix of country & soul with fat beatz ie NOT ROCK!!

nice mix of country & soul with fat beatz = sounds like something Ronan might enjoy, != the quintessence of rock (though the world might be a better place if it did)

― fritz, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like Fritz's suggestions. The Who's BBC sessions and the Buzzcocks "Singles Going Steady" are good.

― dan, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Uh... Rock 'n' roll is what happened when country and soul merged. If Elvis is not the quintessence of rock 'n' roll, then what is? (Hint: Definitely not all this indie/metal shit)

― Ben Williams, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If Elvis is not the quintessence of rock 'n' roll, then what is?

ah but the question is about Rock, not Rock N Roll so all my suggestions are wrong.

― fritz, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Killing Joke's first couple albums sound like rock and roll to me.

― DeRayMi, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Slayer Reign In Blood (I don't trust ANYONE who trashes this record), Rocket From the Tombs, No New York, dEUS' Worst Case Scenario, some good ole FLIPPER (cuz that's the only thing living for, duh), Stooges, Richard Hell. And dare I say it scuzzyphunk PussyGalore. Decaer Pinga and Harry Pussy will also flipper yer face-ah.

― nathalie, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i think its gotten a little over the top here. he said he was thinking about the velvit underground, for the love of god, harry pussy is alittle much, don't you think?

all he needs is the pixies anyhow. .

― dyson, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nah I've got the Pixies Death to the Pixies.......admittedly not enough of their stuff....

― Ronan, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My favourite guitarist is Elmore James, but that's not what you mean. Several strong suggestions, and I'd add Robert Quine's playing on the first Richard Hell album as a favourite. And have Dinosaur Jr been mentioned?

― Martin Skidmore, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Harry Pussy - "ride a dove" (I got some strange looks when I bought it, I didn't really take a close look at the cover til I got home...I must be less frenzied when buying records!)

― jel --, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Godfathers - "Hit by Hit"

― lawrence kansas, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Roky Erickson-You're Gonna Miss Me Retrospective, Stooges-1st and Raw Power, Jesus & Mary Chain-Psychocandy, Patti Smith Group-Radio Ethiopia, Captain Beefheart-Safe as Milk or Doc at the Radar Station, Dead Boys-Young, Loud & Snotty, Aerosmith-Rocks, Mott the Hoople-The Ballad of Mott Retrospective, New York Dolls-1st & Too Much Too Soon, Lynyrd Skynyrd-The Essential or whatever greatest hits record you can find, Cheap Trick-In Color, David Bowie-Alladin Sane, Redd Kross-Phaseshifter, Turbonegro-Apocalypse Dudes, Weirdos-Weird World, Undertones-1st, anything you can find by the Avengers. I guess I ignored the Spiritualized bit after the first few suggestions, sorry.

Also, it's not so ROCK, but I think the little old man in you would really like Joe South, Ronan. It's all I've been listening to lately.

― Arthur, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Anyone who thinks Elvis in Memphis isn't rock is obviously living on a different planet than me.

― Sean, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

planet sinker!
ronan be fucking careful w/ this shit, some people are recommending stuff that could put a young person off "rock" for ever. Fritz's calls are right-the-fuck-on tho - you like country music right? so y'll prob'ly dig that 50s shit. Arthur's list is pretty good...+ whoever said the Saints but don't go near "their" (his) dull later albums. Also I recommend the Groundhogs' "Split" (NOT metal!)

― , Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

also anything w/ Billy Childish on it (Headcoats, Mighty Caesars, Milkshakes), anything that says recorded at Toe Rag Studios/by Liam Watson, anything on In The Red, *most* stuff on Bag of Hammers, Crypt or Sympathy FTRI.

― , Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah & Hawkwind are NOT METAL too. anything from when they were on UA.

― , Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

actually AC/DC are NOT METAL too

― , Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the good Fall albums are Live @ the Witch Trials, Dragnet, Totale's Turns, Slates, Grotesque, Hex Enduction Hour, yeah & lots others too but get those ones first.

― , Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ronan I didn't like metal either and then I bought an album by BLACK SABBATH. Deep down you know I'm right.

― Tom, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Let me clarify: not that some fine albums aren't being recommended here, but do you really think the Butthole Surfers, Sonic Youth or Husker Du are the place to start for someone who is trying to get their feet wet in rock? I know, you snarky bastards are going to say "yes, of course!...."

But should people really embark upon something so staid and predictable as a get-yer-feet-wet "training course" on rock? Non- tossers, I mean? This is totally not the natural way that young people get into music; we start at the (post-98) antecedents and *then* get to the roots. At 15 Sonic Youth sounded great but it took me two years to bother to listen to White Light/White Heat again after the first play.

― Tim, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Killing Joke = techno-goth alex,......it ain't rock."

Wrong, Wrong and thrice Wrong. For a start, Killing Joke are neither techno nor goth. Clan of Fuckin' Xymox are techno-goth. Killing Joke are "Post-Punk," maybe but NEVER goth....and they *ARE DAMN WELL SO* rock. Rock augmented by flourishes of apocalyptic funk designed to replicate the sound of the earth vomitting, yes, but it's still assuredly ROCK with a capital 'R.' I'll give you that on the last two Killing Joke studio albums (PANDEMONIUM and DEMOCRACY), Youth tried to sneak in a bit of trancey flourishes, but that hardly makes them a "techno" act, and besides, I was citing their first album from `80, which is irrefutably a rollicking dollop of hard-nosed, nihilistic R-O- C-K!!!!!

ps: Honor the Fire!

― Alex in NYC, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I would say: The Grifters. Or the Afghan Whigs. Both I think would appeal to sad bastard country fans like myself.

― bnw, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oh yeah Ronan...Spiritualized-friendly rock includes "Neu!75"-Neu! and MC5-"Babes in arms" (u like "Electricity" YOU"LL LOVE DIS!!!)

― michael bourke, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mr. Ewing hath seen the light too.

― michael bourke, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No, he hath seen the DARK!

― Alex in SF, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

well that too like

― michael bourke, Friday, 5 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

this is a hard question, from what i know of Ronan's writing I think he's right himself in saying he'd like the Velvet Underground, and Sabbath is right too I think (because he likes The Stooges and for other reasons). I also think maybe ... Spaceman 3, and Earth, because those bands are close to Spiritualized, and Earth is like Spaceman 3/Sabbath. And I'm sure he'd also like Snapper, for the same reasons.

I think this question would be more fun if you approached it more as 'Ronan's rock horoscope' than 'what I most like in rock.' and if you don't know him, use your intuition like an astrologer. so maybe you would guess something really VAGUE, like um, it's hard to think of anything vaguer than 'The Stooges' (i mean, that's 'rock that could happen to anyone').

― maryann, Saturday, 6 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I didn't mean that as an insult to the Stooges, i mean, it's like saying 'today your romantic life will take a turn for the better.' everybody wants romance and it is really something.

i really want to recommend a band with some girls in it, but i honestly can't think of anything along the lines i want ... like I could say, 'The Wild Angels' because I like that band, but they're garage rock, and is that really what Ronan's asking for? that's for ... collectors ... jaded people ... people who've already raced through rock backwards, etc.

― maryann, Saturday, 6 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

no it isnt