CSS in the Guardian guide

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Did anyone catch that piece on Saturday? The thing that stood out about the article for me was that they were very disparaging about Brazil.

Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Monday, 20 November 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

Link:

They're the electro-punk minxes from Sao Paolo who've set the blogosphere alight and become one of the hippest bands of the year. Jaimie Hodgson joins CSS on a New York gig marathon ...
http://music.guardian.co.uk/pop/story/0,,1949438,00.html

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 20 November 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Ah yes, the Guardian Guide and its rewritten press releases masquerading as articles.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 20 November 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks for the link. The bit where he talks about the band's "uneasy relationship" with their home country intrigues me.

Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Monday, 20 November 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

well, they do have an uneasy relationship with the Brazilian press, who've been very dismissive of them, but have a strong internet following (most of their home shows are sold out through online messages) and play semi-regularly with bands like As Mercenarias...

when i interviewed them they were pretty keen not to badmouth Sao Paulo, even though some aspects obviously bugged them - unbelievable traffic congestion, crime, and a relatively small/insular scene (for such a metropolis).

karen karpenter (kicking_k), Monday, 20 November 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

why britain loves this band is beyond me. oh wait, no it's not, makes sense in a nation where the Kooks are chart toppers

garbage

pernicus (pernicus), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

they've one great song and are rubbish live.

the deee-lite of right now. i'm saying.

pisces (piscesx), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

Hands off CSS, bumpkins!

zeus (zeus), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

CSS is appalling.

vartman (novaheat), Monday, 20 November 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

You still playing 1.6?

Dan Barramouss (jimnaseum), Monday, 20 November 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

I thought they were brilliant live. Not as in subtle entertainment, but a lot of kickass charm.

Karen, that's very interesting about your interview. When I was in Brazil I found a flourishing music scene, albeit one that moved quite slowly, i.e. it took a long time for a record to gain prominence, but when it did it took an equally long time to shift off the a-lists. Admittedly that was in the days before the Internet.

The things that you mention that bug CSS about SP would bug anyone. I wonder if in the Guardian piece they weren't trying to say anything to upset anyone [i.e. there's a lot of poverty in our country and we're relatively privileged] but it didn't come out right.

Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

the deee-lite of right now. i'm saying.

that is not such a bad thing to be!

(they have about...three good songs.)

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 09:31 (nineteen years ago)

(but the good songs are REALLY good.)

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 09:32 (nineteen years ago)

why britain loves this band is beyond me. oh wait, no it's not, makes sense in a nation where the Kooks are chart toppers

nice glass house you got yourself there

2 american 4 u (blueski), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

oh wait, no it's not, makes sense in a nation where the Kooks are chart toppers

ha, history of the 00s: the two main culprits of ruining British international reputation in the 00s Tony Blair and Conor McNicholas

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

They're AMAZING live. I saw them in Dublin and they stage dived the shit out of the place. It was great. They've got a massive following in Ireland. I think it was the only show to sell out.

from The ends of your fingers (prosper.strummer.), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

"the deee-lite" of anything is a massive compliment!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Tony Blair and Conor McNicholas

YUP!

pernicus (pernicus), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Their "weirdness" w/r/t Brazil actually strikes me as much more of a self-consciousness about being rich kids. (Also maybe self-consciousness about some people in the US/UK popworld surely seeing them as Brazilian and therefore the opposite of rich kids.)

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

CSS has more than one (or three) good songs. At least five or six. It's not what you would call profound, but they're fun to listen to and fun as hell to watch. Lovefoxxx is completely yummy. They all are.

I think the thing about Brazil relates to (a) class, and (b) they're trying to be rock stars in the U.S., they don't want to be "world music". I don't think they want to be about Brazil more than U2 is about Ireland or Broken Social Scene is about Canada.

Vornado (Vornado), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

lovefoxxx is yummy which makes their music so good

pernicus (pernicus), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

how people can hate this band is beyond me. i mean, a song called "let's make love and listen to death from above" would rock even if it didn't, you know, properly rock. which it does, so all's right with the world.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

................

pernicus (pernicus), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 04:39 (nineteen years ago)

self-consciousness about being rich kids

And we think middle-class guilt is rife in the UK... In a way it's quite refreshing to hear Brazilians talk like this. Better than the 'we Brazilians have no money' and 'we Brazilians are all black, indigenous and white' I've heard posh white Brazilians come out with. But...

I think the thing about Brazil relates to (a) class, and (b) they're trying to be rock stars in the U.S., they don't want to be "world music". I don't think they want to be about Brazil more than U2 is about Ireland or Broken Social Scene is about Canada.

I agree that this is their attitude - their music is manifestly not Brazilian - but I thought the way it came across in that article was disparaging and ugly.

Daniel Giraffe (Daniel Giraffe), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 08:11 (nineteen years ago)

the alala video is really good.

pernicus (pernicus), Thursday, 23 November 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)


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