"Wind It Up": Gwen vs Prodigy

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The Gwen song is great. The Prodigy suck mostly, but "Wind It Up" is one of their 3 or 4 good tunes (besides "Your Love" and "Music Reach").

― groovemaan (groove nihilist), Saturday, 6 January 2007 01:47 (eighteen years ago)

The Prodigy suck mostly

Out.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 January 2007 01:48 (eighteen years ago)

Crazy. There are more than 3 or 4 GREAT TUNES on Experience alone.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 6 January 2007 01:49 (eighteen years ago)

Out.

come on. you like "fat of the land" or what?

― groovemaan (groove nihilist), Saturday, 6 January 2007 01:50 (eighteen years ago)

Why yes. As it happens, Alex in SF is also quite correct.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 January 2007 01:50 (eighteen years ago)

I'd motion that Jilted was their best. FOTL is worth it, however, for Mindfields, Narayan and Climbatize alone.

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Saturday, 6 January 2007 02:10 (eighteen years ago)

i dig the prodigy. such huge-sounding beats!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 6 January 2007 03:34 (eighteen years ago)

The Gwen song is great

Double out.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Saturday, 6 January 2007 03:43 (eighteen years ago)

Oh god I love Climbatize to pieces.

Also dig the Juliette Lewis-contributed vocals to "Spitfire"

― less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Saturday, 6 January 2007 04:21 (eighteen years ago)

Wind It Up (Rewound) vs the album mix

the album mix has better piano loop but 'Rewound' as better build-ups

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Saturday, 6 January 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

The Prodigy suck mostly

WAH? No effing way. Firestarter was ~~maybe~~ shite, but come on! What drugs are you on, because I don't WANT'EM!

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 6 January 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

The trouble with Firestarter is that it broke up the three best songs on the album (already mentioned) with its inane bluster.

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Saturday, 6 January 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

never liked Narayan, probably much to do with Mills. stupid lyrics.

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Saturday, 6 January 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

"the Western sun" = nuclear holocaust, is it not?

nah, forget the lyrics. It's got a great tune, a well-engineered build-up, and a truly memorable 2-minute noise/beatfest outro (best part of the album IMO)...

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Saturday, 6 January 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

come on. you like "fat of the land" or what?

You must be an Americ. Fuck Fat Of The Land and its stupid punk-lite posturing. Prodigy were the best Rave band in the history of dance music but they went very awful the second they started trying to be a rock band and getting the dancers to actuallly do something other than dance. Embarrasing guest-spots and covers of L7 songs; way too big a gap between "Firestarter" (which was awesome), "Breathe" (which was also pretty awesome but more of a build upon the previous single) and "Fat Of The Land" (basically an abomination by the Prodigy's standards. it came out a whole year too late and was devoured by Kerrang! readers who are always a little slow on the uptake).

Slagging off one of the greatest acts of the nineties and basing your reasoning on one shitty record is just inane. Mind you I've always got some time for Climbatize.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Saturday, 6 January 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

No one wants to talk about Gwen then? QED.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 6 January 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

Can someone tell where the vocal sample in Wind It Up (The Prodigy one) comes from?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 6 January 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

I think Tom E is right about Gwen's 'Wind It Up' re it makes much more sense loud on a pop dancefloor. I don't usually like to use this to validate a track but when it's a case of the track sounding actually horrible at first but then growing on you after hearing it or imagining it in specific contexts then that's often interesting (applies to loads of stuff esp. in pop and dance music for me cos i profess to like the genres generally).

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Saturday, 6 January 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

Slagging off one of the greatest acts of the nineties and basing your reasoning on one shitty record is just inane

I don't like most stuff on Jilted either.

― groovemaan (groove nihilist), Saturday, 6 January 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

well then get experience. or a lobotomy, you choose ;-)

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Saturday, 6 January 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

i just find it weird that someone would consider 'Wind It Up' one of their 3 or 4 good tunes. 'Your Love' never meant more to me than a lot of their other earlier stuff either (obv. it's still great but no more so than several Manix tracks and what have you).

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Saturday, 6 January 2007 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

true, i'm surprised it was released as a single really.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Saturday, 6 January 2007 17:42 (eighteen years ago)

remember Howlett saying he didn't want it to be released as thought five singles was too many (even tho of course technically only 'Out Of Space' was the same in both album and single format) and he wanted to concentrate on touring plus new material instead of promoting the song. despite this the 'Tightly Wound' version of the track is also pretty good.

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Saturday, 6 January 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone who starts a post with the sentence "The Gwen song is great" should be shat on immediately regardless of the comparison.

― maria b (maria b), Sunday, 7 January 2007 03:06 (eighteen years ago)

i just find it weird that someone would consider 'Wind It Up' one of their 3 or 4 good tunes.

This it totally OTM; "Wind It Up (Rewound)" was the first Prodigy track I heard that I actively disliked.

I think the people hating on the Gwen song are taking it way too seriously, or they haven't seen the video yet. Or they're Ned.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Sunday, 7 January 2007 04:38 (eighteen years ago)

:-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 January 2007 04:45 (eighteen years ago)

It occurred to me the other day that Gwen's "Wind It Up" is the first big pop appropriation of funk carioca, sorta.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 7 January 2007 05:38 (eighteen years ago)

Tim, my good man, drop me an e-mail here when you can.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 January 2007 05:43 (eighteen years ago)

Ned! My normal e-mail has been playing up - I'll e-mail you from my uni e-mail address.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 7 January 2007 05:46 (eighteen years ago)

Thank yer!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 January 2007 05:46 (eighteen years ago)

actively disliking 'Wind It Up (Reowound)' is equally bizarre to me Dan!

Anyone who starts a post with the sentence "The Gwen song is great" should be shat on immediately regardless of the comparison.

it's been a long dark winter without Alex In NYC around but this helps a little!

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Sunday, 7 January 2007 12:59 (eighteen years ago)

The Gwen song is great! So is the Prodigy one.

Useful post, eh?

― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 7 January 2007 13:01 (eighteen years ago)

The big issue I had with "(Rewound)" is that the sub-base booms are SO loud that they drown out most of the beat. Without the beat, the entire song becomes flaccid; it's the exact opposite of what happens in 2 Bad Mice's "Bombscare".

Prodigy - rhythmic definition = not so great. (Still better than the bad tracks off of Fat Of The Land and Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned tho.)

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Sunday, 7 January 2007 22:22 (eighteen years ago)

It is impossible not to enjoy The Prodigy live.

― lexurian (lexurian), Monday, 8 January 2007 02:35 (eighteen years ago)

the gwen song is one of the worst thing I've heard in a very long time. it's atrocious.

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:26 (eighteen years ago)

lexurian, that actually happened to me at reading 98. too much moshing, not enough raving. they may as well have played the fat of the land cd through some big speakers.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

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