― Confounded (Confounded), Saturday, 6 January 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)
― Confounded (Confounded), Saturday, 6 January 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)
I was checking out Dave Stelfox's end-of-the year list on his monthly Pitchfork column as a way of helping me decide how to catch up with dancehall as I haven't heard much in awhile. Dancehall seems to be staying strong although the one-drop resurgance seems to be hanging in there also.
― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Saturday, 6 January 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)
http://pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/39789/The_Month_In_The_Month_In_Reggae_Dancehall
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― am0n (am0n), Sunday, 7 January 2007 04:31 (eighteen years ago)
i guess mgmt. wanted him to clean up his act to obtain superstardom and he said fuck dat
http://www.jamaica-star.com/thestar/20061221/ent/ent4.html
http://www.ttgapers.com/Article1613.html
― am0n (am0n), Sunday, 7 January 2007 04:43 (eighteen years ago)
rofl @ "he took a dig at Bounty Killer for failing to makehis former squeeze, D’Angel, who is now Beenie Man’s wife, pregnant? Boasting of his own sexual virility Beenie Man intimated that Bounty Killer has a limping sex life."
― am0n (am0n), Sunday, 7 January 2007 05:50 (eighteen years ago)
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― Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 00:00 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.peppapot.com/getvideo/391
― am0n (am0n), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.reggae-vibes.com/2006_45s/2006_45s.html
― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 00:41 (eighteen years ago)
― am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 01:34 (eighteen years ago)
just heard this, the wahwahed bong rip sounds are kinda silly
― am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 02:02 (eighteen years ago)
Sigh. Kartel shoots up Mavado's barbershop, Mavado shoots up Kartel's studio (and injures his wife.)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)
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― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)
http://niceup.com/stage_names
― Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)
haha most of these guys have government names just as good as their stage names.
― cheesesteak and shake (dubplatestyle), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)
― tsk. (mwah), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.ttgapers.com/Article1618.html
"Patricia (Adijah) Palmer come drive pass mi community... Him a fire shot fi look stripe an a graze leg, tell him top shotta nuh miss," said Mavado, referring to the incident which occurred in Cassava Piece, St. Andrew.
lol names
― am0n (am0n), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)
!!
― am0n (am0n), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)
however just got the first two volumes of
http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/k/kingjammyot_kingjammy_104b.jpg
holy shit
― am0n (am0n), Sunday, 14 January 2007 01:28 (eighteen years ago)
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― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:17 (eighteen years ago)
vp will probably put out full albums for each of these rhythms next and make all of this redundant
― am0n (am0n), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:26 (eighteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:39 (eighteen years ago)
agreed about steely and clevie
― am0n (am0n), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:57 (eighteen years ago)
that ele is stevie wonder 'part-time lover' i think?
― am0n, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:43 (seventeen years ago)
trust b-more club to ruin everything
DUHHH OH YEAAAAAH!!!! THNX!!
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:46 (seventeen years ago)
certainly one of ele's subtler connoisseur efforts
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago)
(btw amon that timberlee is on the rae riddim i was talking about!)
ok yea i usually dig ward 21 productions
― am0n, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 21:50 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20071021/ent/ent1.html
Dancehall records street law published: Sunday | October 21, 2007
Krista Henry and Melville Cooke
Dancehall music has often been accused of spreading violence with persons like deejay Mavado, a self-proclaimed 'gangsta for life', spouting lyrics such as "gunshot inna ya farrid". However, on the other side of dancehall, there are artistes who speak to justice in the streets through violence against pedophiles, petty criminals and murderers, seeming to urge citizens to take justice into their own hands.
In the 2005 song Gash Dem, deejay Chuck Fendah advocates that the Almighty 'gash' and 'light' criminals for their actions, seeing fire as the way to pay them back their crimes. He identifies the targets as "a big man like you/rape off a six-year-old baby/a big man like you/pop off yuh gun and put nine pon a likkle ole lady/a big man like you bun dung a school and a talk bout yuh mad sick and crazy". Fender calls on the 'Moses Law', which speaks to an eye for eye rather than leaving punishment to the formal justice system.
Gash Dem came under scrutiny from the Broadcasting Commission, which felt the song was unfit for airplay. However, in a subsequent interview with THE STAR entitled 'Fendah Won't Bow', he said that persons wanted him to change his song to enforce a more legal form of punishment. He said, "Somebody from the RJR Group was saying that a better mi seh 'try dem an hang dem' because at least dat more legal, but wi nah change nutt'n. A suh di people dem love it an a suh it come spiritual. Di song nuh have nuh violence inna it. It deeper dan wah dem a think, but from yuh a carry Jah banna yuh a guh get a fight. If dem want mi tek out 'gash dem an lite dem' outa it mi nah guh do dat. Is a spiritual fire mi a bun. Dis song is a correction to wah a gwaan inna Earth."
As a follow-up to Gash Dem, Fendah recorded Freedom of Speech, which begins "a wah dem a try, a di people dem rights dem a try fi deny?" He continues: "I hope unno see it, seh poor people nuh have nuh freedom of speech."
Long before Fendah's gashing, in Buju Banton's early career on the 1990s he hit the dancehall with Man Fi Dead rasping in one version that "man fi dead/tell yuh seh mi nah save nuh lead/gunshot a buss inna petty tief head".
And after Fendah, came deejay Baby Cham, speaking to survival, crime and how justice is brought to in the streets. In Conscience he cries "what coulda possess a man, fi tun a AK-47 pon a young ooman" and declares "man nuh rape likkle pickney inna Jamaica and nuh dead". In Wha Dem Feel Like he turns his lyrical ammunition on the police, saying that in the ghetto they have no power. He deejays: "Bwoy go run go station/chat till him blue/ sell information on mi and mi crew/ what uh tink di police can do?/ Wha di hell di police can do?" The last line is borrowed from a popular Echo Minott song of the mid-1980s, that song speaking to domestic violence.
Cham adequately speaks to a lack of faith in the police and the formal justice system. It is a belief that has seemed to increase over the years and has repercussions in the number of mob killings in the island. Mob killing usually occurs when a community takes justice into their own hands for a wrong committed on their neighbour, friend or family. In a report by The Gleaner entitled 'Mobs cry for blood - Robber killed by angry Gordon Town residents' it was reported that 20 persons were killed by mobs in 2003, while in 2004, mob-related killings resulted in 21 deaths.
Reacting to the rising level of mob killings, in the article Justice Minister A. J. Nicholson noted, "the necessity for all institutions in the society to give their backing to the forces of law and order." He argued that, "when mixed signals are sent by groups, inside and outside of our society, constantly denigrating the forces of law and order, citizens are encouraged to break the law."
According to Donna Hope, lecturer in the Reggae Studies Unit at the University of the West Indies (UWI), popular culture is used to bring to light issues that are problematic for the people. "I believe the music is a reflection and reinforcement for things that happen. The idea of the informal justice system is more real; what happens around people comes out in the music. There is also a lack of confidence in the formal system of justice. The network of justice in some communities moves much swifter, while court cases takes a much longer time. Informal justice brings for some more satisfaction, even though it's not a legal framework," she told The Sunday Gleaner.
Mob killings are certainly not new in Jamaica. One of the more notorious, relatively recent incidents took place in Flankers, Montego Bay, on December 15, 1995, when an American businessman, John Beckett, was beaten after his car hit and overturned a soup cart at a street dance.
Beckett, who was also robbed of his jewellery, was flown to the United States of America for treatment, but died in hospital.
After two trials, the jury failing to reach a unanimous verdict in the first in 1997 and the judge instructing the jury to return a verdict of not guilty in 1999, the three men accused of the murder were acquitted.
It was a rare instance when a case of mob killing actually reached the courts as, in most instances, no one is even arrested much less charged and put on trial. In fact, there are instances where the act is celebrated.
One such came 10 years after the killing in Flankers when, in April 2005, farmers in Mendez Town, Trelawny, chopped and killed two yam thieves. The Gleaner reported in April 2005 that "jubilation ran high and distilled spirits (rum) flowed freely after the killings, as scores of farmers gathered to celebrate the demise of those whom they said have been causing them misery."
Not everyone was in agreement with the killing and the story continued "according to the eyewitness, he went to look at the men and saw them tied up. He said that he told the mob to wait on the police. But his pleas fell on deaf ears as those who were hungry for instant justice took matters in their own hands by hacking and stoning the men to death."
And there have been times when the police have actually held back those baying for blood, as occurred in Morant Bay, St. Thomas, on February 27, 2006. A suspect was taken into custody for the killing of five persons from one family, Patrice Martin-McCool, nine-year-old Sean Chin Jr., three-year-old Marshall George McCool, nine-year-old Jesse O'Gilvie and Terry-Ann Mohammed, all from Duhaney Pen, St. Thomas.
A mob descended on the police station and The Gleaner reported: "Him fi dead, give we him mek we kill him," shouted members of the angry mob, whose boisterous behaviour forced the police to close the doors of the station for more than an hour."
Mob killing has also spilled over into the realms of higher education, as 23-year-old Ricardo Anglin was killed on the campus of the University of Technology in 2003. Then, on Tuesday, April 4, last year, a man who allegedly made homosexual advances on a male student was chased and saved from an uncertain fate by the police, who had to fire shots in the air to disperse a crowd which had hurled missiles at them as they protected the fugitive
― am0n, Friday, 2 November 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago)
old but holy shit vybz kartel on mudslide rhythm!!!!!
― am0n, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 00:12 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.soundquake.com/mp3/135541.mp3
― am0n, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 00:13 (seventeen years ago)
^ them's the days.
listening to steven mcgregor's beehive riddim - beenie, vybz - kinda the epitome of today's general vibe. ie rolling atmospheric martial war business, slight nod to badman oldskool (stink riddim here), maybe a little deejayish/rappish vocal manipulation, quite hype when yr in the ruffneck mood but usually pretty drab and wearying at the same time.
― r|t|c, Thursday, 8 November 2007 12:22 (seventeen years ago)
first single from bounty killer's alliance supercrew (bounty, mavado, bling dawg, busy signal, wayne marshall) is way better than i thought it'd be. i guess!
only other cool thing bounty's done this year is this, afaik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wr2aeu1vE4
― r|t|c, Thursday, 8 November 2007 12:30 (seventeen years ago)
hm, don't often hear about behind-the-scenes ragga songwriters:
Serani also crafted the lead phrase on Sean Paul's Billboard smash, "We Be Burning," as well as on singles such as Tony Matterhorn's anthemic "Dutty Wine," Busy Signal's "These Are the Days," Bugle's breakout hit "Exercise," Elephant Man's "Willie Bounce," and Mavado's international hit "Dying," the first track on which he also featured as an Artiste
http://www.yardflex.com/archives/001583.html
dancehall ne-yo! 'she loves me' and munga's 'whine pon it' is such a killer singjay radio one-two right now.
― r|t|c, Thursday, 8 November 2007 13:28 (seventeen years ago)
alliance track is sick
i remember reading about how dave kelly, in addition to producing, ghostwrote most of cham's stuff including "ghetto story"
― am0n, Thursday, 8 November 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago)
Mudslide was always one of my faves. I think my favourite version is Assassin's "Want To Be Free".
― Tim F, Thursday, 8 November 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago)
hey tim, how'd you get on with yr paris purchases
― r|t|c, Thursday, 8 November 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago)
good thread for zsharing.. some tracks on Back Ache, Airwaves and Chinkuzi
http://forums.sohh.com/showthread.php?t=863577&page=4
― Confounded, Saturday, 10 November 2007 00:49 (seventeen years ago)
mix
http://dancehallreggae.com/forum/showthread.php?t=131180
― Confounded, Saturday, 10 November 2007 00:53 (seventeen years ago)
well confounded i for one am glad you thought to check the sohh.com ladies room for dancehall.
― r|t|c, Saturday, 10 November 2007 02:27 (seventeen years ago)
mix i did not enjoy
― Confounded, Saturday, 10 November 2007 03:12 (seventeen years ago)
I ran out of time to go back and get anything in Paris rtc - I saw the Busy Signal album in Amsterdam but it was 30 euro, so I passed. I have been downloading some of his 07 stuff though - excellent! Can I be rude and ask for your top 5 2007 Busy Signal stunners?
― Tim F, Saturday, 10 November 2007 04:05 (seventeen years ago)
In particular (and it may not even be from 2007) i am in love with "Me Nuh Go A Jail Again". So good!
― Tim F, Sunday, 11 November 2007 13:03 (seventeen years ago)
killer innit. "and we never gonna fail again / like a ship we a go sail again" gets me every time - it really is like a big homeward bound prison ship the way it rocks gently on, and with the call and response. totally nails that emotional sweet spot somewhere inbetween regret and determination and complicit gangsta pride.
haha only asking for 5 is a bit rude yeah! i'm still thinking. although it's kinda funny, on an out and out 07 bangers list someone like ele would still seem a lot stronger than busy, despite being seen as having an unremarkable year in comparison. maybe busy requires a bit of getting into and contextualization, i dunno.
― r|t|c, Monday, 12 November 2007 11:05 (seventeen years ago)
"totally nails that emotional sweet spot somewhere inbetween regret and determination and complicit gangsta pride."
Ha ha YES it is so conflicted - could we add "desperation" to that list too? Is that a very slight amount of T-Pain studio fuckery going on too? The way he says "more" and "sure" - "mooueuer" and "shooourer"!
Thing about Busy is, despite the formal similarity to, oh, Vybz with a touch of Wayne Marshall a lot of the time, I suspect the effect of his overloaded vocal over-investment is more like maybe Sizzla at his very best - where he may not make the best cut or even a top 3 cut on a riddim, but the result is totally compelling on its terms.
― Tim F, Monday, 12 November 2007 13:36 (seventeen years ago)
yeah, it's something a bit stronger than regret isn't it. "you woulda never see me call mi friend fi bail again", oh the shame. and not to mention having next man a plait your hair, of course.
― r|t|c, Friday, 16 November 2007 01:58 (seventeen years ago)
anyone heard? http://www.vpreggae.com/images/catalog_images/VP1810.jpghttp://www.vpreggae.com/images/catalog_images/VP1811.jpg
― Confounded, Friday, 16 November 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/4317770a11f3ca/
http://forums.sohh.com/images/smilies/violent_01.gif
― am0n, Thursday, 22 November 2007 05:12 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/5084711339c252/
GUNDELERO... THE NEW NAME FI RUDEBOY!
http://www.zshare.net/audio/5084738e01f610/
PICK A LICKLE TUNE PON MI BAN-JO!
― r|t|c, Thursday, 22 November 2007 13:32 (seventeen years ago)
always love the cowboy cobra moments, they seem to catch on some deep truth about him
the noble stoic gangsta of a john wayne
the weary loner's fuck you of a robert mitchum
― r|t|c, Thursday, 22 November 2007 13:37 (seventeen years ago)
sorry about the busy sig list delay btw tim, i keep getting distracted :(
― r|t|c, Thursday, 22 November 2007 13:38 (seventeen years ago)
ohh ele had a fabulous cowboy one a couple of years ago, one sec i must find it
― r|t|c, Thursday, 22 November 2007 14:01 (seventeen years ago)
both of those strictly the best comps are dire. the lady saw track on 37 is great but the rest overlaps with other comps too much. 38 is more about one-drop type stuff but most of it sounds like lite-jazz :'(
― am0n, Thursday, 22 November 2007 17:24 (seventeen years ago)
supa hype - uptown driver
― am0n, Friday, 23 November 2007 19:34 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVUFftId0W4
― am0n, Friday, 23 November 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago)
That's too bad about the STB since the covers this year are really good. I notice Greensleeves cut their end of year comps down to single CD which a mostly useless DVD taking the place of the second CD. Sigh.
― Alex in SF, Saturday, 24 November 2007 01:53 (seventeen years ago)
It's The Pitchfork Year in Reggae/Dancehall Everybody!
― r|t|c, Thursday, 29 November 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.rototomsunsplash.com/sunny/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/alborosie.jpg
pretty sure that's rick rubin in a gag dread hat
― am0n, Thursday, 29 November 2007 23:59 (seventeen years ago)
http://lick-a-shot.blogspot.com/
― am0n, Friday, 7 December 2007 03:12 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOCPpJCayNw
― am0n, Saturday, 8 December 2007 01:01 (seventeen years ago)
awesome ninjaman cameo at the end
― am0n, Saturday, 8 December 2007 01:04 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.17northparade.com/
^ vp's reissue label. picked up the toyan 'spar with me', solid junjo rhythms, sound quality is great, bass is real heavy. curious about how the yellowman and little john ones compare.
not sure i get the point of this greensleeves comp.. i guess it's tracks from this years roots/reissues but seems kinda random. that konders-produced chezidek album sounds good judging by the samples. noticed some reissues i didn't know about.. ranking dread, cocoa tea/cutty ranks
― am0n, Sunday, 16 December 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago)
lol talking to myself this month
― am0n, Sunday, 16 December 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago)
forgot to mention, 17 north parade also did single-disc reissues of all four volumes of joe gibbs' african dub almighty series
― am0n, Thursday, 27 December 2007 05:22 (seventeen years ago)
bumpaclaat
― am0n, Thursday, 27 December 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago)
I will be on the 2008 version of this thread. Just didn't have the heart for it in 2007.
― Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 27 December 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago)
-- am0n, Saturday, December 8, 2007 1:04 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Link
^^^this beat kills. i'd rather hear someone other than shaggy for most of it, though.
― Jordan, Thursday, 27 December 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PQ2%2BUkpwL._AA280_.jpg
1. Church Heathen Shaggy 4:03 2. The Pastor Ninja Man 3:11 3. Lef Dem To Time (Radio) Elephant Man Feat. Jigsy 2:51 4. Bangin' Tree Red Fox 2:55 5. Love Machine (Radio) Rik Rok & Screechy Dan 3:08 6. Juvenile Ky-enie 3:33 7. Boomerang Nanny Rayvon 2:27 8. Caan Fool Gal No More Goldenchyl 3:22 9. The Gospel Shelly Thunder 2:54 10. In Da Club D'lynx 3:08 11. Gal Alone Wayne Fire 2:59
― am0n, Thursday, 27 December 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago)
ele's is fire
― am0n, Thursday, 27 December 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3eumKnznVE
― am0n, Thursday, 27 December 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago)
sweet
― Jordan, Thursday, 27 December 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago)
"forgot to mention, 17 north parade also did single-disc reissues of all four volumes of joe gibbs' african dub almighty series"
In a way, I'd prefer the single disc versions to the to 1 & 2 on one disc and 3 & 4 on another versions I have. After 70 plus minutes they get a little wearying and I suspect I've never given 2 and 4 quite the fair shake because of it, consequently.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 27 December 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago)
and you get to see the the original covers, or at least most of them. the label is putting some sort of stamp on all the reissue covers, kind of annoying but it could be worse.
it'll be interesting to see what they do with the penthouse catalogue.
― am0n, Thursday, 27 December 2007 17:32 (seventeen years ago)
http://reggaefirst.com/music/11-busy_signal-holdin_firm.wma
― am0n, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:06 (seventeen years ago)