Restoring Vocal Chords

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By the end of a practice or show, my voice is usually shot to the point that I'm hoarse even when speaking. Does anyone know any methods to help restore my vocal chords so I can be in top shape from night to night? I've heard about licorice remedies and things of that sort, but is there anything I can just do around the house without having to order special herbs?

....... (Pearl Hooch), Thursday, 11 January 2007 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

learn to sing better so you don't ruin yr vocal chords?

jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

vocal CORDS

sorry

shanghaied by the dragon lady (get bent), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Smoke a lot of Kools.

Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

Here's a couple of things. Honey and lemon juice works wonders. Just mix it together and drink some straight or put it in some tea. Use before and after you sing at practice and try to drink it every day.

There are lots of other things that are good for the throat. Kava is a root that can be used to loosen up the vocal chords. The first time I drank it I had a much better range and felt relaxed, also. Read about it first though--look it up on wikipedia.org. You can buy a box of tea bags in a healthfood store, or the health section at Kroger (I think that is a grocery store that is found mostly in the southeast). It is made by the brand Yogi.

More obviously, if your throat is hurting that bad, you're probably doing something wrong. Make sure you're using your diaphram to sing and not strictly singing in the throat.

David St. Hubbins (David St. Hubbins), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

gargle gasoline

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

less fellatio

J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

and chamomile?

J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

camomile ffs

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

x-post

Well I'm in more of a "screaming" band than a singing band. Not metal-core type stuff, just kind of the high-energy rock type thing. And my throat never hurts...it's just that my voice starts to get really raspy and starts to "disappear" after a few songs.

...... (Pearl Hooch), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

You need vocal lessons. It is possible to scream in a sustainable, healthy manner (NOTE: I don't know how to do this).

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

I figured that was the case. You need to learn how to sing or scream better. Herbal therapy such as chamomile tea, kava tea, honey and lemon juice will all help heal the damage that you have caused and strengthen your throat, but you are creating damage to your throat that could be serious in the future if you don't learn to sing or scream properly.

You can talk to people and read tons of articles online about how to scream properly. There's a woman named Melissa Cross who has trained tons of famous musicians to properly scream. She has an instructional DVD out, and I think she has a book. Look her up online.

David St. Hubbins (David St. Hubbins), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

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boyant (Boyant), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

not just for fishers

boyant (Boyant), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

'cept they taste like fish

jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 11 January 2007 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

?

what kind of minty fish swim in your ocean, mr. jaxon?

boyant (Boyant), Thursday, 11 January 2007 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

camomile ffs

-- You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (papiermachealamphibia...), January 12th, 2007 8:09 AM. (Haberdager) (later) (admin) (userip)

both are correct you tool

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Thursday, 11 January 2007 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

oh man, fisherman's friend is (are?) so tasty

Good-Time Slim, Uncle Doobie, and the Great 'Frisco Freak-Out (sixteen sergeants, Thursday, 11 January 2007 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

as one who got into music conservatory for singing but turned it down, and used to scream in countless hardcore bands, you need to learn how to scream proper. i would take a lesson from Infest or Lack of Interest (speedcore bands extraordinaire)-- those guys are not singing from their throats but from their stomachs, which sounds a bit funny at first and can make you vomit if you do it for a sustained amount of time, but is much less painful and harmful to the cords.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 11 January 2007 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

Well it feels like I'm screaming from my stomach...I could be wrong, but as far as I can tell there's really no "throat" involved.

That DVD - The Zen of Screaming by Melissa Cross - will it help even though I want to stay as far away from metalcore as possible?

....... (Pearl Hooch), Thursday, 11 January 2007 23:08 (nineteen years ago)


Without A Song
Jul. 10, 2003
Ed Yeates Reporting

Utah researchers are growing synthetic vocal cords that someday could give people who have lost their own cords the ability to speak and sing again.
We all take our voices for granted until something happens to the little box down in our throats. Suddenly, for some, that which makes us so characteristically human disappears and they are without a song.
Julie Andrews’s voice was distinctively her own until surgeons removed a growth on one of her vocal cords. She could still speak, but the singing voice would never be the same again.
It's even worse for Steve Mauger. Because of throat cancer doctors completely removed his voice box.
Steve Mauger: "It's like trying to talk to somebody and nothing is coming out. You can't imagine how horrible that feels."
Vibrating a device against his throat, Steve quickly learned how to speak again. But how he misses that sound which before was so distinctively his own.
Mauger: "To be able to express your feelings in your own voice without sounding like a machine or having people tell me I sound like a robot."
But what if people without could get back what they once had through synthetic vocal cords? At the University of Utah's Biopolymer Lab, a voice vibrates synthetic cords as they literally grow inside a bioreactor - the only one of its kind in the world.
The folds are plastic foam like strips, but human cells are growing on and through the material forming a strong matrix that vibrates with incredible resiliency. In fact, vibration itself seems to trigger the cells to grow a certain way.
Dr. Patrick Tresco, U of U Bioengineer: "The material is biocompatible - accepts the cells - and they grow into a tissue that has many of the properties of the intact vocal fold."
Now, imagine these implanted tailor-made bionic folds, through physical therapy, being trained architecturally to evolve into one's own voice box.
Tresco: "Our goal would be to create just the guitar string, the vibrating unit, and as long as that vibrating unit had the biomechanical properties that would be similar to the intact tissue, there's reason to believe that the voice would be similar to the voice the individual had prior to the damage."
The singing voice, the speaking voice, both very close to where they were before. Perhaps the bionic cords could even modify an existing voice, say from an uncomfortable weak raspy sound into a strong, clear, pleasing one.
Mauger: "I can't even tell you how it would feel. I don't care if it takes twenty years, I'll wait."
And Steve will have to wait. If this early research proves out, human clinical trials are probably at least ten years away.


timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 12 January 2007 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

Lemon Juice + Honey OTM.

I haven't tried it myself, since I don't sing that much, but I've been in a few bands where the singer used lemon juice and it always did the trick.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Friday, 12 January 2007 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

the thing about avoiding dairy is B.S. (at least for me) -- i've always had dairy in my diet and it's never affected my singing voice. i wouldn't guzzle a quart of heavy cream right before a performance, but you don't need to cut all dairy out full-stop either.

shanghaied by the dragon lady (get bent), Friday, 12 January 2007 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

no no no-- dairy is terrible for the cords. it stimulates mucus production, which in turn irritates the throat with coughing, etc.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Friday, 12 January 2007 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

myth

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Friday, 12 January 2007 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

I actually find it slightly easier to hit really low notes if I've got some phlegm up in there

Good-Time Slim, Uncle Doobie, and the Great 'Frisco Freak-Out (sixteen sergeants, Friday, 12 January 2007 02:48 (nineteen years ago)

also, sort of on-topic: does anyone know of any good throat-singing resources? I've come across a handful of websites, but not much else.

Good-Time Slim, Uncle Doobie, and the Great 'Frisco Freak-Out (sixteen sergeants, Friday, 12 January 2007 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

on the dairy tip, I heard from a reliable source that some opera singers will eat yoghurt before a performance as it actually soothes their vocal chords.

the ginger root helps the throat too.. Just buy it at a grocery store and chew it. Gets addictive.

Nick Thorburn (Diamonds), Friday, 12 January 2007 04:55 (nineteen years ago)

There's a woman named Melissa Cross who has trained tons of famous musicians to properly scream. She has an instructional DVD out, and I think she has a book. Look her up online.

I might get this just out of curiosity. Not sure I'd want to spend much time at a group workshop!

tolstoy (tolstoy), Friday, 12 January 2007 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

is rooting a ginger as good as ginger root?

PAUL FUCKING ROBINSON (electricsound), Friday, 12 January 2007 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

I use ginger root for figging almost daily. It has helped put a spring in my step.

David St. Hubbins (David St. Hubbins), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:18 (nineteen years ago)


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