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Second episode is up, and it's his top 10 records of 2006!

http://www.woebot.tv/

― flavio pessoa (flavio pessoa), Friday, 12 January 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

bump!

― flavio pessoa (flavio pessoa), Friday, 12 January 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

why isn't this showing on the new answers page?

― flavio pessoa (flavio pessoa), Friday, 12 January 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

Because you're impatient.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 January 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

Wasn't that interested in his list of 2006 or his reissues or his listened to most or whatever, but some of those distorted horns tracks sounded great!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 12 January 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

not sure if i prefer listening to reading. either way, total waste of time making it a VIDEO.

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Friday, 12 January 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

i would actually want to read this! but i don't want to watch it, bloody hell.

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Friday, 12 January 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

Woebot is the lonelygirl15 of music journalism.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

Why make something when you can spend quality time on a message board?

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

haha

― cheesesteak and shake (dubplatestyle), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

zing zang zung

― cheesesteak and shake (dubplatestyle), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

I think it's really good. Someone give him a series. I can't remember if I've ever seen a music show like it. If I have one criticism it's that it's not available fullscreen (unless I'm being a techno-peasant).

― Treblekicker (treblekicker), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

It just seems really pointless to make it in VIDEO form, unless you can make something interesting visually to justify the medium choice (I don't need to see the sleeves that desperately). An mp3 would've been fine! They're letting anyone on Resonance these days etc.

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

whatever was wrong with words on a screen? this makes it MORE difficult to access!

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

"Doing stuff" LOL

― Andy_K (Andy_K), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

I think it's great. I would never have dreamt of reading an essay about Gentle Giant, but Woebot.tv ep.1 actually made them seem pretty intriguing. The top 10 was less so, but then lists are boring whatever format. Good work Mr I!

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

i kinda like it, the dance moves on the "mutated horns" section are funny; my only suggestion would be to raise his voice's volume on the mix.

― flavio pessoa (flavio pessoa), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

i kind of agree with steve and andy both.

― cheesesteak and shake (dubplatestyle), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

I'm doing stuff whilst listening to this.

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

Envy is not a pretty spectacle at the best of times.

Matthew and I have notoriously failed to see eye to eye in the past but it's a great idea and he's clearly put a great deal of work into it. Enough of the jealousy please.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

Yes of course it can only be jealousy. Any criticism ever = masking jealousy. Did the band make a crap album? NO IT'S BECAUSE THE CRITIC IS JUST JEALOUS OF THEM!

but then lists are boring whatever format.

even as an EOY CD? (yours rules btw)

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

Perhaps when you've done something better than Woebot TV then you might have earned the right to criticise it.

He's made the quantum leap because you were too lazy and scared to do it first, deal with it.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

http://redsox.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Quantum_Leap/quantum_leap_image__3_.jpg

― cheesesteak and shake (dubplatestyle), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

I have done something better than Woebot TV. Not that that is relevant when it comes to criticism anwyay. You really do come out with some ridiculous shit.

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

my biggest criticism of this video: listen to an NPR music review, dude. i know you play the music in the background, but it's so hard to make out over your voice. you should shut up for just a few seconds and turn up the volume for each track at least once.

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

You've done something better have you? Then show us (xpost).

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

Music writers handling criticism of other music writers they respect worse than criticism of musicians they respect shockah

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

You've done something better have you? Then show us.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

i'm gonna lock this one in about...five minutes.

― cheesesteak and shake (dubplatestyle), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

It's a great idea, but it shouldn't be a replacement for a text blog at all, disability/accessibility issues anyone?.

People be missing the point of the .TV here though.

I'll agree the visual content isn't really up to much for this feature, but it made sense for the prog feature w/live footage etc.

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

The blogosphere isn't Lambeth Council.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

I think it's a great idea. I have less patience for this nonsense than Jess though.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

yes, thread unlocked!

now maybe we can suggest some themes for future episodes?

― flavio pessoa (flavio pessoa), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:29 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, sorry for the temporary locking - I thought it was best to stop a lot of time-wasting ugliness.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:34 (eighteen years ago)

that's allright.

one thing, has anyone saved the prog episode? on the dissensus thread, he said he isn't doing archives for the videos... i thought about saving and uploading the episodes somewhere else, with his aproval, of course.

― flavio pessoa (flavio pessoa), Friday, 12 January 2007 23:40 (eighteen years ago)

but it made sense for the prog feature w/live footage etc.

this was a good point and the only one to convince me that doing it on video is a 'great idea'. sorry to focus on negative here - i'm sure it'll all develop and expand tho. i liked being able to hear the music anyway.

funnily enough i do have a couple of video projects in the pipeline but they are by no means critic-based 'this is what i think' pieces.

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Saturday, 13 January 2007 00:00 (eighteen years ago)

hi everyone, thanks for the feedback.

i fully accept that the current episode was maybe less visual than it could have been,
certainly less so than the first episode. i spent a lot of time working on getting the audio right. so yes, it was kind of like a mp3 stream with extras.

the next three episodes are of a very different character and i think will remedy that bias. stay tuned!

― Matthew Ingram (WOEBOT), Saturday, 13 January 2007 08:25 (eighteen years ago)

hi! i have no opinion on your new video format but i want to say THANK YOU VERY MUCH for writing about quarteto novo. those records saved my life.

― friday on the porch (lfam), Saturday, 13 January 2007 08:30 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, it's down :(

― cnwb (cnwb), Saturday, 13 January 2007 09:45 (eighteen years ago)

jtn otm

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 13 January 2007 11:40 (eighteen years ago)

He's made the quantum leap because you were too lazy and scared to do it first, deal with it.

how is watching a video a "quantum leap" from reading words?! that is utter nonsense. videos on the internet actually seem less advanced than text what with the time they take to load - also bear in mind that blogs are a great way to pass time at work for many, and a video is obv not as suited to this.

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Saturday, 13 January 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.gingkopress.com/_cata/_mclu/img/escape.jpg

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Saturday, 13 January 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

the main reason this doesnt qualify as anything like a quantum leap in OMG VLOGGING is that so far it's only worked on telly's terms - the prog ep was basically an enjoyable matthew collingsish bbc4 essay programme that just happened to be on the interweb, while this new episode sails a lot closer to regular blogpost style and suffered badly for it. (i'd watch a bit of it again to qualify that a little better but the site's down now, so.)

― tsk. (mwah), Saturday, 13 January 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

He has no ideas about how to make an interesting video. Or at least none that are on display here. It's called "Woebot TV" but even by the very lowest TV standards it's poor. The monitor head thing is just ridiculous. If you're loath to show your face then don't be a TV presenter - stick to blogging. Plus, what everyone else says about text blogs being easier and handier.

The content of what he's saying is fine though - I liked the Gentle Giant information because I don't know anything about them and now I do, kind of.

― everything (everything), Sunday, 14 January 2007 01:26 (eighteen years ago)

i really enjoyed this, great stuff. everything totally off the money - this looks better than 99% of TV: simple and effective. well done Matt.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:00 (eighteen years ago)

I WANT MY MARCELLO CARLIN TV

― tony conrad schnitzler (sanskrit), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:03 (eighteen years ago)

i think this is great!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:13 (eighteen years ago)

the prog ep was basically an enjoyable matthew collingsish bbc4 essay programme that just happened to be on the interweb,

I don't know who matthew collingsish is, but for me the fun part about woebot.tv, esp. the first one, is seeing that kind of show focusing on that kind of subject, something I can't find on the over 1000 channels I have care of Time Warner. I mean, Simon Reynolds doing haircuts maybe, but no discussion of gentle giant...

The monitor head thing is just ridiculous. If you're loath to show your face then don't be a TV presenter - stick to blogging.

c'mon...I'm sure he does that because he's so ashamed of his poor looks...no, it's some kind of meta comment on vlogging...no, wait...it's FUNNY.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:27 (eighteen years ago)

i love hearing someone actually say it! it makes it so much more interesting than a text blog to me. and i love the tv head.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:46 (eighteen years ago)

not that the spoken word is inherently more interesting than text, but in the world of blogging about music it makes such a nice change.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:46 (eighteen years ago)

Skipping 80 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

i just got a presumptuous email saying i wanted to subscribe to this. woebot and hilary clinton on the same day.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 29 January 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

same here
but replace hilary with jeremy clarkson

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

This list has a double optin feature so you must go to the URL listed below
to finish joining this list. This is a safeguard for you.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 29 January 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

I got the email as well. Not too classy, mr woebot.

I missed this the 1st time round, so just watched the presentation now. I found it bizarrely enjoyable and annoying at the same time. The guy's manner I thought somewhat open-universityish, and the way he seemed to lay down the law wrt some of the stuff he was talking about, like his truth is the objective truth. ditch this and I'd probably enjoy it a lot more.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 29 January 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

curious to see the prog rock one, though I'd probably wind up seething angry after seeing it.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 29 January 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

i agree with pash. i found it very informative and ended up downloading a lot of the stuff he mentioned (Bruno Spoerri is particularly appreciated), but the delivery could be pepped up a little. Visually it is very slick, but there isn't a lot going on on screen. Even a face on the front of the Woebot could have been a nice touch(although perhaps a little difficult to pull off), and yeah the Whispering-Bob tone does come off a little simpering and preppy and could have been spiced up with a little humour. After all, it is a guy with a PC monitor on his head.

Needs to find a balance between something entertaining and informative to watch (which it is) and the ramblings of an obvious trainspotter (which it is also).

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 29 January 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

hope the spam email didn't piss everyone off too much.

the thing is episodes are so few and far between in comparison to blog posts and seeing as how i can't activate RSS on the site i thought a mailing list would probably be a good idea. that way no-one has to check-in to see if a new episode is up etc blah blah blah

next episode is going up sort of middle of next week-ish though obviously of you've subscribed to the email you don't need me to tell you that

also subscribe here

― WOEBOT (WOEBOT), Monday, 29 January 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

Just post up on this thread when you have a new episode up, perhaps?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 29 January 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

is the prog issue archived?

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 29 January 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

i didn't mind the email really.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

no, nor me

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't even get his email.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

I don't mind getting an email either! I was just put out b/c it was kind of "you have joined this mail list", which is a bit alarming, since someone signed me up for that ludicously bust yahoo shoegazer list a few years ago w/o asking.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

ludicously busy, even.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

i didn't see the point of it being an email. better suited to carrier pigeon format.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

I missed the prog one too. Any chance of putting old ones on YouTube for us slowpokes eh woebot?

― NickB (NickB), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

putting them on youtube would probably 'corrupt the mystique'. there's no actual text info on woebot site about the videos either (for same reason?).

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

lol @ ilxors' coping mechanisms. i'm happy that i won't have to compulsively check woebot for new material fearing that i've missed an episode. thx.

― fukasaku bloodbath (blackmail.is.my.life), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah. Mr Woebot, any sneak preview of what the next one's about though?

― Treblekicker (treblekicker), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

woebot, please email me guess papers

― the kwisatz bacharach (sanskrit), Monday, 29 January 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

Episode 3 has just gone up.

― cnwb (cnwb), Saturday, 3 February 2007 23:50 (eighteen years ago)

Best one yet - great stuff, mr woebot.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Sunday, 4 February 2007 01:55 (eighteen years ago)

episode 3 is great! bump

― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Sunday, 4 February 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

thanks for the nice remarks

@vita susivus "putting them on youtube would probably 'corrupt the mystique'"

ha! that's possibly one aspect. mainly however is youtube's small-print. if you put something up there they more or less own it......

― Matthew Ingram (WOEBOT), Monday, 5 February 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

fair point matthew. i like that you've included the Juana Molina phone interview in this new episode presumably unedited even if it was a compromise as you point out (but if you'd been able to film the interview would it just have been both of you on screen wearing monitors? is it all an elaborate ruse?).

― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 5 February 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

Always nice to find birdsong in music. Puts me in mind of lots of other things - Virginia Astley, John Martyn's 'Small Hours', Mahler's cuckoos. Good subject to ponder on that. Quite a clunky device really for evoking nature, but most of the time it is genuinely quite a charming effect (the Tweets excepted).

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 00:13 (eighteen years ago)

Really lovely new piece. I've always been fond of Ms Molina's work and it's nice to see her contextualized in such a thoughtful manner. I especially loved the questions and enjoyed Mr. Woebot's visual cringe when she claims that she has absolutely nothing to do with electronic music because she "doesn't record on a computer" or "use repetitive beats." Too funny. It's nice to see that some artists can be willfully un-self-conscious in a charming (yet frustrating) manner.

― William Selman (William Selman), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

It's nice to see that some artists can be willfully un-self-conscious in a charming (yet frustrating) manner.

Ha! Yes. I can't quite see why she couldn't get her head round it. I think perhaps the folk people (likes of Adem etc) have put a move on her with regards to the horrors of electronic music. Especially since she recently collaborated with a guy called alejandro franov which (according to a mate) is yet more electronic.

-

New Episode up btw

― WOEBOT, Monday, 26 February 2007 11:40 (eighteen years ago)

WOEBOTALACALYPSE

― modestmickey, Monday, 26 February 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

the folk music exploration is my favorite yet.

― fukasaku tollbooth, Friday, 6 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

the folk music piece TOTALLY ignores ppl like Richard Youngs and Alasdair Roberts in order to make the wonky point that yr Devendra Banharts and Joanna Newsomes are like soooo inventive, weak history

― Ward Fowler, Friday, 6 April 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

i kinda chalk that up to a bit of orientalism actually. a lot of US neo-folkies seem to prioritize the late '60's UK stuff over American stuff.

― fukasaku tollbooth, Friday, 6 April 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

Does otherizing US music count as orientalism?

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 6 April 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

i think there's valence fetishism that happens on both sides of the pond. and i like said term more than a haplessly late nineties gender studies gerund.

― fukasaku tollbooth, Friday, 6 April 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

richard youngs probably best case against the point......apparently.

have heard roberts stuff. even got an email from him once! not a big fan.
have seen the following live: adem (twice), james yorkston, king creosote etc
yoiks.

difficult to name names on "the show" cos when it's spoken-out, it sounds incredibly catty.

possibly fair to say that i'm assuming grass is greener, thought of saying that, but stalled cos it seemed a bit too nuanced.

― WOEBOT, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

The last two episodes have been my favorites (the guy at the Folk museum was darling as is Twitch in his bit.) Good job Matt! Thanks for doing this.

― Alex in SF, Sunday, 13 May 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

great stuff.

― jed_, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:09 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

what a loser. he discovers that he owns some rare promo mix of cybotron's clear. every person i know would want their friends to hear it and spread it around. his offering? 64 kbps mp3 with low levels. just so he can prove to his dissensus minions that he actually owns the golden disk. but no hi-hats for the rest of us!

between this and his down-the-nose attitude towards everybody at his <s>message board</s>shrine he is losing whatever esteem he gained by introducing me to quarteto novo.

― elan, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

as if juan atkins or his label would sue you for this!

― elan, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

Does otherizing US music count as orientalism?
-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, April 6, 2007 7:45 PM

what the fuck am i talking about

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

wouldn't that be occidentalism? or in this case, "i'm a retard with a fan club"

― elan, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

^ not you hoos

― elan, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

knowing woebot there's probly about 5000 of that rarity sitting around on gemm

― r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

er elan how would you say this promo mix differs from the original anyway? i can't hear much new at all, from memory.

― r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

i listened, it doesn't seem that different. i noticed a couple of odd vocal parts but i don't really want to listen again, it's like running a plumbing snake down my ear canal.

― elan, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

knowing woebot there's probly about 5000 of that rarity sitting around on gemm

lol, i wonder if he paid 70 pounds for this record, too.

― elan, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

shame i can't be bothered to dig mine out and compare really

would have been a fun evening

― r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

1 FUN EVENING LATER!!!

... i found the sleeve but haha not the record. no demonstration only stamp tho.

― r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

lol dusty fingers besmirching my keyboard, how poetic

(good lord some of the shite you find when you actually look at the stuff you've amassed. who was i then! i could bang out a cracking woebot post right now)

― r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

vlogging is so hott right now. but maybe focus on esoteric niche music rather than being such a gloomy gus about this past year.

― Wrinklecause for Applause! (Wrinklepaws)

http://images64.imikimi.com/image/images_full/60455564.jpg

― velko, Sunday, 21 June 2009 03:14 (sixteen years ago)

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