DB-X - Losing Control

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so, i just heard this song for the first time and i love it. this is what i hear when i think of "minimal" techno (or house, whatever). what else is like this? i mean, obviously some other daniel bell stuff. i think that a lot of dimbiman and pantytec fit. what else?

― friday on the porch (lfam), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

Alvin Lucier-I Am Sitting in a Room

seriously though, I remember when that came out. There was a small collective of techno geeks at Oberlin, including WOBC's station manager, who was a huge Plus 8 freak, he even had the condom. Anyway, he got us on their promo list so we were getting Probe, +8 and other related label releases. I wouldn't be suprised if many of them are still there hidden away. Can't imagine who'd take those in the years between then and now.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

philus, perhaps. (sähkö)

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

Robert Hood's early solo work i guess, personally im not fond of the 'new wave' of minimal techno

http://www.discogs.com/release/2386 - Deleted
http://www.discogs.com/release/7000 - re-release, changed track list tho

http://www.discogs.com/release/10735 - Awesome stuff

http://www.discogs.com/release/21371 - fav!

― X-101 (X-101), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 09:00 (eighteen years ago)

also see

http://www.discogs.com/release/4915

http://www.discogs.com/release/21032

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Maurizio

http://www.discogs.com/label/Basic+Channel

― X-101 (X-101), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 09:03 (eighteen years ago)

'do daa doo' by robotman (especially the hard house dub) -

http://www.discogs.com/release/67715

'rontgen' ep by Ø

lots of early robert hood.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 09:19 (eighteen years ago)

spocks brain, on that ep, is good as well

and the earlier peacefrog ep, alien

― Storefront Church (688), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 09:45 (eighteen years ago)

lots of releases on the sadly forgotten pin up label.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 09:51 (eighteen years ago)

Nice. Love the DBX track - I'll be hunting some of these other ones down.

As an aside, I saw you play at Fabric on Saturday - much more techno than I imagined Optimo to veer into, very different to your set in Brighton a couple of years ago - I guess you were playing a set to suit the venue? No complaints, enjoyed myself a lot, but how would it compare to your residency?

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 10:14 (eighteen years ago)

but how would it compare to your residency?

very different - it's probably more how we used to play pre optimo. i really love playing the different rooms of fabric. when we do room 3 it's much more like our night in glasgow as we usually get the room for the whole night and can play all over the place. as room 2 is the techno room, i guess we tailor it more to that sound and it's great fun for us to go back to our roots and bang it out. i played room 1 once and played completely differently again. i guess the downside is that it confuses the hell out of people who have maybe only seen us once before.

i stayed in room 2 for an hour or so after we finished to listen to robert hood who seemed to be playing a 1993 minimal classics set. when he switched on the 909 and did what seemed to be an hour long drum machine solo my head started to explode and i went off to check out weatherall.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 10:29 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, pretty much the same as us then. Although I think it may have been Craig Richards by the time we got into Room 1 - it all gets a bit hazy by that point.

I do love Rob Hood, but after a while the unrelenting pace gets slightly too much for me... A little goes a long way.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

I do love Rob Hood, but after a while the unrelenting pace gets slightly too much for me

yup. when i went to pick up my records i noticed the tempo on his 909 was at 141bpm!

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 11:08 (eighteen years ago)

I love his stuff, more than mills mostly, i had this weird obession with his hi-hats a few years

― X-101 (X-101), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

i already knew basic channel of course, but thanks for all these other recommendations... my head is exploding.

― friday on the porch (lfam), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

dan, where did you hide them? or do you mean hidden in plain view, in the techno section?

― friday on the porch (lfam), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

when i saw rob hood with gareth at lost the speed made me almost puke and i had to go home immediately :S

― ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

Well...there wasn't a techno section untill we got there! When you walked into WOBC and hung a left, the first vault on the left had the dance records on the right side near the floor. God knows how things have been reorganized in the years between. Somebody probably threw them all out or something. WOBC's collection was AMAZING because they used to have a budget in the early 80s and would get all their records from Sound Sensations Imports, which was Dave who later ran the Co-Op CD dept (see the Thomas Leer thread). When I was there, WOBC had No New York, Spiral Scratch, Fruit of the Original Sin, Early Fall, etc etc.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

now the techno (or BPM, as CMJ so gracelessly calls it) is by the windows overlooking the mailroom entrance, separated from them by (i think) metal cds. last time i was in ohio i didn't know anything about techno so i can't vouch for the state of the collection. i bet lots of it is gone.

― friday on the porch (lfam), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

well, anything about pre-2000 techno. and we had apparently not been receiving any dance music promos besides DFA since then.

― friday on the porch (lfam), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

I forget the name but there was a specific dance music pool that services WOBC and whomever else with the good stuff. You just have to keep in touch with people and lie and say thousands of DJs are playing their stuff and they'll keep sending you shit.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

WOBC is going down the tubes. membership has completely fucked it. apparently nothing has worked since sasha and i left.

in terms of the techno section-- there's a lot of Junior Vasquez, 808 State, and Depeche Mode remixes of old. I've seen a Hood record in there before-- maybe I'll check when I go to pick up the rest of my stuff this weekend.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 23:05 (eighteen years ago)

in other words, people have probably stolen a lot of it over the years, or it's somewhere that i don't know, which is doubtful, because i know that station like the back of my hand.

(ps- i am responsible for a theft from the techno vault. maybe i should give up the 12" containing all the versions of Pacific back?)

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 23:07 (eighteen years ago)

strike "back"

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 23:08 (eighteen years ago)

it's all cycles. After I left it got shitty and a few years ago some of the WOBC folk emailed me for advice. I felt guilty because I wasn't successfull finding good music directors to take over for me, but I think the real problem had to do with the Station Managers during that period. But WOBC was pretty consistently great in the years before I got there and while I was there.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 23:34 (eighteen years ago)

The problem is that the programming is always excellent-- I'd say this past semester was the best radio of my 3 and a half years at Oberlin (while being the worst semester for me personally). The problem is getting people to show up while simultaneously knowing how to use the equipment (ie- not fuck it up). That and all financial records from the past four years either never existed or have vanished.

The music is not the problem. It is the bureaucracy, which is needed to some degree at a college station to keep it afloat.

Anyway, I had the CC remix of this for a while, and this thread spurred me to find the original. Am pleased.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 25 January 2007 02:58 (eighteen years ago)

actual jakshun - sequential circus
wishmountain - radio (= mr. herbert)

― maarten maes (dice collective), Thursday, 25 January 2007 10:11 (eighteen years ago)

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