Fall Out Boy - Infinity On High

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Album of the year, right?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

Best track: "The Takeover, The Break's Over"
Best title: "I'm Like A Lawyer With The Way I'm Always Trying To Get You Off"
Worst attempt at a "Radio Song" for the 00s: "Thriller"
Lamest cultural reference reviews will make in reference to "Thriller": "Radio Song"
Things FOB need to do less of: Downtempo songs
Things emo needs more of: Gospel choirs, harmonies, "This Ain't A Scene..." etc style bitchiness

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

They have any songs as good as "Love Like Winter?"

Tim Ellison = NUMBER ONE ADVOCATE OF YOU-KNOW-WHAT ON NU-ILX!!! (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

Things FOB need to do less of

It might be a California thing but I just realized the unfortunate connotations of Fall Out Boy's acronym.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

I never got AFI, Tim. Please suggest songs other than "Love Like Winter" that might convert me on them.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

I have no idea if AFI have any other songs as good as that.

Is there a single/video from this that I can watch? I thought FOB were horrible on Saturday Night Live last year.

Tim Ellison = NUMBER ONE ADVOCATE OF YOU-KNOW-WHAT ON NU-ILX!!! (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race: http://youtube.com/watch?v=vESeeJC-4nE

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

Which is apparently gonna be the first emo #1 in the States at some point soon.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

Is it true that one of the songs has Jay-Z rapping on it?

Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

"Girl's Not Grey" and "Miss Murder" are as good as "Love Like Winter"

I listened to this once, definitely has potential. The single's probably peaked, Dom, though I seriously hope I'm wrong.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

"Rapping" is a strong term. "Talking" is closer. I was hoping for some kinda "BLACK SKIN, BLACK CLOTHES: WE ARE ONE BROTHERS" schtick, but it's more "This for anyone who said it couldn't happen, uh". I think he's just pissed off he wasn't invited to do something on the Fort Minor album.

xp

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

Appreciate the link, but I don't see the appeal of that song at all. The song itself is just very average.

Tim Ellison = NUMBER ONE ADVOCATE OF YOU-KNOW-WHAT ON NU-ILX!!! (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

dom are these made up song titles? plz tell me no.

acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

Looks like they're real.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dri300/i342/i34245cpy8s.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

Things emo needs more of: Gospel choirs, harmonies, "This Ain't A Scene..." etc style bitchiness better songs?

Tim Ellison = NUMBER ONE ADVOCATE OF YOU-KNOW-WHAT ON NU-ILX!!! (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 25 January 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

YSI?

I'll be buying this on the strength of "This Ain't A Scene" and "Carpal Tunnel Of Love". The latter took some time to grow on me, the former I found instantly likeable.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, that entire tracklist reads like above-average New York trend-piece headlines.

Although "Don't You Know Who I Think I Am?" is a fantastic song title.

Erroneous Botch (joseph cotten), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

the real question is, can it possibly be better than 'from under the cork tree'

im not sold on 'this aint a scene' yet

nervous (cochere), Thursday, 25 January 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

Dom, you forgot the best part of Jay-Z's guest spot: when he shouts "young! F.O.B.!"

...

ampersand, spades, semicolon (cis), Thursday, 25 January 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

wasn't someone in that band in Hinckley

Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Thursday, 25 January 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

what about "hum hallelujah"? that, "thriller", and the lawyer one are the top tracks for me. I also liked "golden"...especially the line about in the chorus about god crying in the reflection of enemies - very good. those songs seem a bit like ones specifically written for mtv though and i'm not a die-hard fan of FOB. in other words, i'm probably just completely wrong.

h (pauzer), Friday, 26 January 2007 00:58 (eighteen years ago)

and in my opinion, it is their best album yet.

h (pauzer), Friday, 26 January 2007 00:59 (eighteen years ago)

weak

Erock Lazron (Erock Zombie), Friday, 26 January 2007 03:13 (eighteen years ago)

It needs more hot beats and less "Boompopboom pop boom pop boomboom pop"

A couple of years ago, my band was playing a show in that little shitty room above the Trocadero in Philly, and there's this door from which you can see down into the mainspace, and FOB was playing. I didn't like the music so much at the time, but I do remember thinking that spin move that the guitarists do was ace.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:01 (eighteen years ago)

Dom, this 'guilty pleasure' thing is so evident and boring. Fall Out Boy simply can't make a good album, fact.

zeus (zeus), Friday, 26 January 2007 11:03 (eighteen years ago)

'guilty pleasure'


No such thing.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

No such thing.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2RwqnLArhbA

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

That's no guilty pleasure, that's a reason for hate.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

I so can't get into this single.

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

Someday, these bands will get over their poetic ambitions, mature and finally write "Jessie's Girl."

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

For the unaware, two of the tracks on this album are produced by Babyface

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

co-written? plz?

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

Fall Out Boy simply can't make a good album, fact.

counterexample:
http://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/60/c6/2977b220dca091a7ad3e3010.L.jpg

nervous (cochere), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

Someday, these bands will get over their poetic ambitions, mature and finally write "Jessie's Girl."

-- Zwan (anthonyisrigh...), January 26th, 2007.

i think the thing they'd first have to get over is the impulse to PM jessie's girl with opaque heartache until they collide in an ill-advised hook-up that precipitates a crushing wave of narcissistic self-doubt, right?

mike powell (mike powell), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

Best FOB song title yet.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

I wish I was in high school so I could smack some FOB fan against the head while yelling "MORE LIKE FROM UNDER THE DORK TREE!" but then if I was 17 I'd probably be an Arcade Fire fan.

x-post see "mature"

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

x-post, thank you for seeing what's at work here, ned.

mike powell (mike powell), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks to emo I can't listen to ANY Elvis Costello now.

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

I think it's hysterical that no one on ILX can praise this band without being accused of "guilty pleasures", irony, or some other lameass variant on "so bad it's good".

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

It's because they suck

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks to emo I can't listen to ANY Elvis Costello now.

My god, emo just justified itself entirely!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

yeah I don't see "Jessie's Girl" coming from these guys. Where they're at now is as good and natural as they'll ever be.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

i think the thing they'd first have to get over is the impulse to PM jessie's girl with opaque heartache until they collide in an ill-advised hook-up that precipitates a crushing wave of narcissistic self-doubt, right?

-- mike powell (revelator...), January 26th, 2007 3:55 PM. (later)

I'M MESSAGING JESSIE'S GIRL
I'M STUCK HERE TEXTING JESSIE'S GIRL

This a rewritten cover that is screaming to be made.


It's because they suck
-- Zwan (anthonyisrigh...), January 26th, 2007 4:07 PM. (later)

Oh, forgot to tow the party line there. My bad.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

I think it's hysterical that no one on ILX can praise this band without being accused of "guilty pleasures", irony, or some other lameass variant on "so bad it's good".

-- Tantrum The Cat (tantrumtheca...), January 26th, 2007

i think it's sad that there's so little room to be both disgusted and totally fascinated by a band without being accused of thinking that it's 'so bad it's good.'

mike powell (mike powell), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

It's ok!

The Lloyd Dobler Syndrome, I Was 5 When Nevermind Came Out
"My Mouth Is Indie, My Cock Is Metal, My Hair Can't Decide"
"Aiming For The Colour And The Shape (But Trying Too Hard)"
"Our Accountant Thinks We Need The Word 'Myspace' In This One"
"Candlebox Sold Twice As Much With Half The Words"
"When We Figure Out Power Ballads...Watch Out!!"
"The Video For This One Will Interpolate V For Vendetta"
"Naturall,y The Ugly Guy Wrote Everything"
"Significant Other Got Good Press Too"
"The Afghan Whigs Would Be Huge Today (If Greg Dulli Wasn't Huge Now)"
"One Of These Days I'm Just Gonna Use The Word Bitch In A Song And Be Done With It"
"I Really Don't See Us Saving The Music Industry"

Zwan (miccio), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

i think it's sad that there's so little room to be both disgusted and totally fascinated by a band without being accused of thinking that it's 'so bad it's good.'

-- mike powell (revelator...), January 26th, 2007 4:26 PM. (later)

In my experience: "I'm both disgusted and totally fascinated by (x)"= "I like (x) on its own merits but am deathly afraid to say so".

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

"When We Figure Out Power Ballads...Watch Out!!"

Zwan, I may not agree with you, but these are pretty goddamned funny.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

FOB Melodies > Sufjan > FOB Lyrics

Daniel DeNorch (DNorch), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

You don't like From Under the Cork Tree at all, Zwan? I'm crushed (although "Everlong" is probably better than anything on that album).

Not really feeling the new track either. I hope the album's less of a disappointment than Black Parade but I don't have much hope. When these bands try to diversify, they seem to compromise their strengths.

I just don't know what to say to anyone who hears a better song in "Love Like Winter" than in "Sugar We're Going Down" or "A Little Less Sixteen Candles, a Little More 'Touch Me.'"

Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 27 January 2007 05:38 (eighteen years ago)

I knew I liked that guy.

Mordy, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 04:30 (seventeen years ago)

trying too hard maybe, but at least trying! haha remember when joe henry hired ornette coleman to play on his richard pryor song? maybe it's better to talk about it than to do it?

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 04:52 (seventeen years ago)

dude is so short

da croupier, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 05:11 (seventeen years ago)

he was in our bathroom at work the other day and i had this instinctual urge to give him noogies, thankfully resisted, as a mammoth bodyguard was stationed in front of the door.

da croupier, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 05:12 (seventeen years ago)

he and some assistant/manager/whatever were talking about doing some web animation. stumpy wanted to do the voices.

da croupier, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 05:13 (seventeen years ago)

oh yeah, whole band is tiny. every time they're on TRL or any show where they all stand together, they're always dwarfed by some female host.

BIG BROOS aka the steenspringer (some dude), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 05:17 (seventeen years ago)

Is the sleeve illustration by Jay Ryan?

MichaelJLambert, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 18:49 (seventeen years ago)

oh yeah, whole band is tiny. every time they're on TRL or any show where they all stand together, they're always dwarfed by some female host.

― BIG BROOS aka the steenspringer (some dude), Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:17 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark


i just pictured this, and realized how fucking perfect and representative of an image it is for these guys

k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 December 2008 18:52 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

if you're not fuckin with 'folie a deux' i have this for you

http://www.pet-comfort-products.com/images/angry-cat-01.jpg

burt_stanton and ernie (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 09:01 (sixteen years ago)

word. never has a video worked harder to put me off a song I liked than "America's Suitehearts," though.

Mr. Sensitivity (some dude), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 13:55 (sixteen years ago)

i like 'w.a.m.s.'

tuomasters at work (blueski), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 14:05 (sixteen years ago)

lol yeah al that vid sucks

"the (shipped) gold standard" is maybe my fav song by them ever

"w.a.m.s" is dope too

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Monday, 9 March 2009 08:24 (sixteen years ago)

"The (Shipped) Gold Standard" is brilliant but I'm also deeply partial to "Disloyal Order of Water Buffaloes" and "Headfirst Slide Into Cooperstown On a Bad Bet".

Tim F, Monday, 9 March 2009 09:09 (sixteen years ago)

this is really one of those albums where it seems like every time i listen to it, a new song pops out at me. last time it was, mostly because of patrick's piano + vocals bridge, "what a catch, donnie" and this time it was "west coast smoker".

an unrelated thought: they build up to the last minute or thirty seconds of their songs so well

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Monday, 9 March 2009 09:18 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, totally: "America's Sweethearts" final thirty seconds makes everything before it (which had sounded exceedingly good) seem like a tease.

Tim F, Monday, 9 March 2009 09:22 (sixteen years ago)

listened to this in the car the other day and yeah, it really is holding up well. "Gold Standard" is so great, particularly the 'horseshoe crab' verse.

Hateful Guard at Maryland Training School for Boys (some dude), Monday, 9 March 2009 13:35 (sixteen years ago)

"Gold Standard" is so great, particularly the 'horseshoe crab' verse.

― Hateful Guard at Maryland Training School for Boys (some dude), Monday, March 9, 2009 8:35 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark

this song hits me hard

'you can only blame your problems on the world for so long
before it all becomes the same old song'

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 14 March 2009 21:39 (sixteen years ago)

Sometimes i want to quit this all
and become an accountant now
but I'm no good at math
and besides the dollar is down

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 14 March 2009 21:43 (sixteen years ago)

two months pass...

shipley, i figure if anyone on ilx cares about this tour it will be you

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1611339/20090513/blink_182.jhtml

i'm like, head over heels and i don't even care about weezer

man, i love collages (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 14 May 2009 17:51 (sixteen years ago)

yeah that's kinda dope -- i don't know if i'd go see any of those bands on their own but as a triple bill could be awesome. thought about seeing FOB when they were here last month, but them + 50 Cent and a bunch of Decaydance flunkies seemed like a drag.

whineford sings the blues (some dude), Thursday, 14 May 2009 17:53 (sixteen years ago)

"Coffee's For Closers" = prolly my most listened to song of the past couple months

whineford sings the blues (some dude), Thursday, 14 May 2009 17:55 (sixteen years ago)

five months pass...

so i guess this was a demo on their mixtape and is now gonna be on their greatest hits? much <3 in any event

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51rVl0bulAQ

a goon boy (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 08:20 (sixteen years ago)

ten months pass...

this album!

czyczyczyczy comparative (c sharp major), Monday, 30 August 2010 11:16 (fifteen years ago)

it's so great, right? feel like I don't listen to this album enough

dayo, Monday, 30 August 2010 11:29 (fifteen years ago)

I didn't give AFI enough credit on this thread.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 30 August 2010 11:59 (fifteen years ago)

i like Infinity On High but i've barely listened to it since Folie a Deux was released

some dude, Monday, 30 August 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

listening to "Sugar, We're Goin Down" -- ostensibly 'hated' this shit when it was ubiquitous, but maannnn this is a jam

markers, Monday, 30 August 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

pre-chorus slays

markers, Monday, 30 August 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

i'm now going to listen to folie a deux tonight

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 August 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

honestly, out of every album i've ever repped for to my friends, this is the one where people were just like "nahh... you're bullshitting"

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 August 2010 20:04 (fifteen years ago)

really? i've had a much easier time selling friends on FOB than most other corporate rock i listen to

some dude, Monday, 30 August 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

idk i think there's an element for ppl my age of where FOB is sort of ghettoized as the 'emo' of our high school years & there is this distorted view of the music they make because of that, like they sound like panic at the disco or something

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 August 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)

they're not really punk enough to still get burn like blink 182 or something

(know i'm mashing eras a little here)

(also i know this might be a bit too 'in my world of young people')

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 August 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

one of my pals from college who's into music was completely incredulous when i told him id been listening to taylor swift

markers, Monday, 30 August 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

the look he gave me was lol & reminded me everyone doesn't read ilx

markers, Monday, 30 August 2010 20:36 (fifteen years ago)

nah but my friends are generally really open to pop & what not (altho t swift might give them pass)

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 August 2010 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

like they sound like panic at the disco or something

Oh but the second Panic at the Disco record is completely excellent, for a lot of the same reasons that the singer's cameo on "20 Dollar Nose Bleed" works so well.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 05:52 (fifteen years ago)

folie a deux is pretty good! you can hear that they're running out of ideas though. a lot of the hooks seem to have been reworked from infinity on high. (nb I am not familiar with their work previous IoH so maybe it's just something they do).

"preach electric to the microphone stand" is a pretty good lyric imo.

dayo, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 10:13 (fifteen years ago)

two years pass...

On the waiting list at my local library to get a copy of Save Rock and Roll, after seeing all the excitement and activity on that thread. I checked this one out instead for investigative purposes and I've been listening to it about once a week. I like parts of it, but don't quite have the hang of it. There's something about them that vaguely reminds me of Motley Crue, in a weird emo-pop way.

how's life, Thursday, 16 May 2013 14:18 (twelve years ago)

^last sentence one of the dumbest things I've said about music lately.

how's life, Thursday, 16 May 2013 17:17 (twelve years ago)

pffft you're not wrong

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 May 2013 17:38 (twelve years ago)

yeah for real

maura, Thursday, 16 May 2013 19:13 (twelve years ago)

three weeks pass...

At the risk of stating something very obvious, the hamfistedness is a large part of the appeal, right?

and whaterface (how's life), Friday, 7 June 2013 16:03 (twelve years ago)

i'm a crossover emo fan, i don't even recognize the hamfistedness anymore, but sure

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 7 June 2013 16:49 (twelve years ago)

i mean i feel like stump's compositions aren't hamfisted at all, even at this point when there are still traces of pop-punk they move around smartly, which pairs complexly with wentz's unconscious-yet-self-conscious lyrics

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 7 June 2013 16:57 (twelve years ago)

Ok, my knowledge of emo is very, very limited, but say with Saves The Day (first three albums is all I know), sometimes they'll hit a real clunker of a lyric, and I'm like "ok, that was bad, but they were really earnest about it. Dude's a mixed-up kid and he's trying to express his feelings." But with Fall Out Boy, I feel like they throw in the corny, hackneyed, awkward stuff knowingly and they're staring into my eyes while they're doing it. Or maybe they are really that corny. I don't know. It makes me like it more though.

I'll have to dig up some examples of what I'm talking about when I'm not at work.

and whaterface (how's life), Friday, 7 June 2013 17:00 (twelve years ago)

Yeah Wentz lyrics are pretty defiantly on-the-nose and punny. Not exactly unique to emo, though, a lot of Elvis Costello lyrics (or insert respectable 'literate' songwriter here) function the same way.

some dude, Friday, 7 June 2013 17:14 (twelve years ago)

costello comparison is actually otm

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 7 June 2013 17:20 (twelve years ago)

one year passes...

"I cast a spell over the west" bridge in doldrums is so fantastic. It's one of those things that has always stunned me when I heard it and then I go and forget about it and get thrown by it all over again the next time I make it around to that song. It's not letting me go today though.

how's life, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 16:12 (eleven years ago)

best friend
ex friends til the end

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 16:18 (eleven years ago)


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