Ever Get Into An Artist For The First Time, But You Wind Up Buying The Wrong Album First?

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You know, not all of us start listening to a band or performer from the start of their career. And the most logical choice would be to get a greatest-hits album if you don't know where to begin. But it don't always go like that!

So, with that in mind...did you ever decide to start listening to an artist, but the first album you bought turns out to be their most mediocre? And you're sitting there wondering what the fuss is about? Then somebody tells you about a BETTER album they made, and you go "okay, NOW I get it?"

Well, I'll kick it off.

First Ramones album: ROAD TO RUIN. As a teenager, I'd heard the occasional song on the radio, had seen ROCK & ROLL HIGH SCHOOL, bought ROAD TO RUIN because...well, that was the only Ramones LP in the store! I thought it was just OK, nothing earth-shattering. Apparently, this LP (their fourth) was the first album where the formula was starting to wear thin, but they hadn't yet figured out what to do about it. The next one I got was ROCKET TO RUSSIA, and THAT one was more on the money!!!

First Brownsville Station album: MOTOR CITY CONNECTION, found in a comic-book shop the same year I bought ROAD TO RUIN. Always liked "Smokin' In The Boys' Room" because it was kinda punkish, in that old Detroit kinda way, but M.C. CONNECTION is way too Mahogany Rush for me, just bad platform-shoe heavy metal. The next album I got was YEAH!, and that's exactly what I said after listening to it! Didn't hurt that "Smokin'" was on this LP, but the rest of it is killer as well. I now have all seven of their albums, but ...CONNECTION and AIR SPECIAL are the only two I don't like.

First Black Oak Arkansas: EARLY TIMES. There was a reason why Stax Records didn't succeed with white rock, and it wasn't only because of money/promotion problems. Sold this one with the quickness. In order to set me straight, a friend of mine gifted me with their self-titled Atco album and that was far superior.

So what are your tales?

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Saturday, 27 January 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

The first Kraftwerk I heard was The Mix. I had read a bit about them and was interested, and a friend recommended it to me as a great introduction. I didn't realize the songs were REmixed. I didn't listen to any Kraftwerk after that for about 5 years. Then I heard Man-Machine and became obsessed. The Mix still stands as the worst release that Kraftwerk has ever had a hand in, in my opinion.

A friend of mine would always talk shit about the Velvet Underground, and I never understood why. A few years later, I was looking through her CD collection and saw that the only VU she had was the 1993 reunion concert. I asked her if she'd heard any other VU and she said she hadn't. Actually, she didn't realized that they wrote their songs in the 1960's. She thought they were 90's group.

Zachary S (Zach S), Saturday, 27 January 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

Picking stuff up almost at random at the Tower Records closeout, I got a James Gang twofer. Turns out it was their last two albums, both post-Walsh.

do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 27 January 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

"A friend of mine would always talk shit about the Velvet Underground, and I never understood why. A few years later, I was looking through her CD collection and saw that the only VU she had was the 1993 reunion concert. I asked her if she'd heard any other VU and she said she hadn't. Actually, she didn't realized that they wrote their songs in the 1960's. She thought they were 90's group."

I could have very nearly included the Velvets in this lineup, for the first LP of theirs I got was LOADED, at a collectors' store in the early '80s. I remember dropping the needle on "Who Loves the Sun" and thinking, is THIS supposed to be the badass protopunk that all the rock critics are raving about? (1)I later learned that it was considered their "accessible" album, and (2) it grew on me - I slowly "got it," within two weeks of buying it.

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Saturday, 27 January 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

"I remember dropping the needle on "Who Loves the Sun" and thinking, is THIS supposed to be the badass protopunk that all the rock critics are raving about?"

The funny thing is, I could see that being an appropriate response not only to the opening track on LOADED, but also THE VELVET UNDERGROUND & NICO and the selftitled.

Chuck Keller (c keller), Saturday, 27 January 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

i know a number of people who eventually got into XTC, but started out with "Skylarking." Unfortunately, that album is not that good, and completely misrepresents them. I told them to start with "Waxworks" (or "Fossil Fuel") or the Dukes of Stratosphear album.

richard wood johnson (rwj), Saturday, 27 January 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

"I remember dropping the needle on "Who Loves the Sun" and thinking, is THIS supposed to be the badass protopunk that all the rock critics are raving about?"

"The funny thing is, I could see that being an appropriate response not only to the opening track on LOADED, but also THE VELVET UNDERGROUND & NICO and the selftitled."

I know - Spanky & Our Gang could have done "Sunday Morning." (Although they DID have a totally unrelated song with the same title...) I think WHITE LIGHT/WHITE HEAT is the mind-fuck most people remember the Velvets for, but at this point I pretty much celebrate all four of the original studio albums.

Another LP where I got on at the wrong stop: the Dictators' MANIFEST DESTINY. I'd have made out better if I had gotten the one before it or the one after it...

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Saturday, 27 January 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

I bought an XTC best of (Fossil Fuel) and I prefer the stuff on the end of the second disc ("Peter Pumpkinhead", "The Disappointed") rather than the earlier stuff (apart from "Statue of Liberty" and "Making Plans For Nigel"). Then again I must be weird.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Saturday, 27 January 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

Let's see, my first Fleetwood Mac album was that Live In Chicago thing, which is pretty bad even if you know about their blues years (which I didn't at the time).

First Dentists album was one of the later, mediocre ones.

dlp9001 (dlp9001), Saturday, 27 January 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

First Gong album I bought was "Flying Teapot: Radio Gnome Invisible Volume 2" which I've grown to love, but didn't like much at the time.

The first Flipper album I bought was American Grafishy, and to this day I think Flipper is overrated, even though I've heard the 'good stuff' since then. In fact, I think a lot of people who grew up in the Nirvana days had the bad luck of buying Piece of Cake or Stoner Witch from the cutout bin and not realizsing how fucking awesome Mudhoney or The Melvins really were.

Spine Swine (Roger Fidelity), Saturday, 27 January 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

"Let's see, my first Fleetwood Mac album was that Live In Chicago thing, which is pretty bad even if you know about their blues years (which I didn't at the time)."

Are you talking about FLEETWOOD MAC IN CHICAGO? The one where they're at Chess Studios with all these blues legends like Otis Spann and (I think) Buddy Guy? If that's the one...I know about their blues years and as a matter of fact the only Fleetwood Mac I listen to is from their blues years (as long as Peter Green is in the band), and I think that one's pretty good!

But then again, I don't really listen to the later pop stuff they became famous for, so that's just different tastes, I reckon...

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Saturday, 27 January 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

xxxpost: Maybe this is because Nonsuch is XTC's best album, Dog Latin!

to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Saturday, 27 January 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

xpost. Yeah, the one in Chess is the one. I like the blues Fleetwood Mac, but that one just seems uninspired.

dlp9001 (dlp9001), Saturday, 27 January 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

...oh, and of course I was like 11 when I first heard it, and totally expecting Rumours type stuff.

dlp9001 (dlp9001), Saturday, 27 January 2007 22:22 (eighteen years ago)

This seems like something that has always happened (happening) to me. The best example is buying Guided By Voices "Isolation Drills" first. I liked it and played it a lot over the spring and summer but then I let it sit for four years, when I got Alien Lanes for Christmas. Now I can see why Do the Collapse and Isolation Drills aren't well regarded and I enjoy Alien Lanes a whole lot more on a lot more levels, but I still like Isolation Drills for what it is.

Others include:
The Dismemberment Plan - Change
Sunny Day Real Estate - The Rising Tide
Liz Phair - Whip Smart

earinfections (Nick Twisp), Sunday, 28 January 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

The funny thing is, I could see that being an appropriate response not only to the opening track on LOADED, but also THE VELVET UNDERGROUND & NICO and the selftitled.

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Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Sunday, 28 January 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

First Talking Heads album I got was True Stories when it was really popular. A friend saw the error of my ways and taped Fear of Music for me. The difference was substantial.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Sunday, 28 January 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

dont by three way tie for last by the minutemen first!

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 28 January 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

"dont by three way tie for last by the minutemen first!"

which would you recommend, then?

(always liked 'em casually, just never got around to buying one of their records - and ive been avoiding DOUBLE NICKELS ON THE DIME cause thats the one where the songs are a minute or less long and all them drastically short songs might come off as too much of a novelty to someone who isnt already familiar)

Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Sunday, 28 January 2007 22:29 (eighteen years ago)

which would you recommend, then?

Project: Mersh, the EP with longer songs, is out on CD in a collection called Post-Mersh Volume 2. But really, if you want to get into the Minutemen, everything begins and ends with Double Nickels. It's about as much of a "novelty" album as London Calling or Blonde On Blonde.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 29 January 2007 00:53 (eighteen years ago)

OTM. Not a novelty at all. The songs are all catchy, and good. It's not like Scum or Anal Cunt or something. It isn't the only essential Minutemen album, but it's the MOST essential.

I Don't Wanna Hurt (Roger Fidelity), Monday, 29 January 2007 00:56 (eighteen years ago)

Now I can see why Do the Collapse and Isolation Drills aren't well regarded

i can't speak for anyone else but Isolation Drills is one of their top three albums IMO. if someone was likely to be put off by the lo-fi-ness of B1000 or Vampire then i can't think of a better entry point

jimbo (electricsound), Monday, 29 January 2007 01:01 (eighteen years ago)

i would buy what makes a man start fires, the punch line, buzz or howl under the influence of heat and double nickles at the same time!! then buy all fIREHOSE albums!!

chaki (chaki), Monday, 29 January 2007 01:13 (eighteen years ago)

Pavement - Westing

Hideous Lump (Hideous Lump), Monday, 29 January 2007 03:03 (eighteen years ago)

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Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 29 January 2007 03:06 (eighteen years ago)

Sloan. Borrowed their grungey debut album at a library here, and said album was obviously not particularly representative of their style.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 29 January 2007 03:47 (eighteen years ago)

Dude, Westing is amazing!

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 29 January 2007 04:10 (eighteen years ago)

dont by three way tie for last by the minutemen first!

haha I did this

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 29 January 2007 04:16 (eighteen years ago)

if someone was likely to be put off by the lo-fi-ness of B1000 or Vampire then i can't think of a better entry point

That's my problem with this classification of albums--despite the possibility of these being the "wrong" ones to be the introduced with I still enjoy them and don't regret their existance just because they were the first one's I heard. I would say Isolation Drills is my second favorite Guided by Voices album, if only by default, because I don't like BeeThousand nearly as much as Alien Lanes and I don't have any other albums of his/theirs besides these three.

earinfections (Nick Twisp), Friday, 2 February 2007 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, and I had no conception of how "remarkable" the lo-fi characteristics of their previous material was to culture/people (popular and otherwise) at the time of GBV's popularity or at the time I bought Isolation Drills. I didn't know that Drills was any different from any other GBV album other than maybe it just sounds cleaner because it's their newest and (to my understanding) most bands (possibly just at the time-2001-2002) progressively release more polished/produced albums than their last.

earinfections (Nick Twisp), Friday, 2 February 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

The first Smiths I bought was "Rank." It was wrong mostly in the sense that it wasn't representative: when I got to their studio albums I found them too slow, the production too clinical, and the songs missing Morrissey's yelps and throat-clearing noises.

paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 2 February 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

Blue Delight was an unfortunate candidate for the first Sun Ra album I'd ever bought, heard or even seen for sale in any shop. I was expecting something WAY OUT, not some fairly conventional big-band swing standards! Happily, I found the "Heliocentric" LPs soon after, and all was well thereafter. (I still don't play that Blue Delight CD much, but I'll cherish the booklet forever, since I got John Gilmore and Marshall Allen to autograph it.)

M. Agony Von Bontee (M. Agony Von Bontee), Friday, 2 February 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

my first roxy music album was flesh & blood, which i bought because i had seen the movie "times square," which featured "same old scene." i immediately fell in love with the album (actually, i fell in love with exactly half the album, but that's usually enough for me), and i still have a huge soft spot for it. but every written piece about roxy msuic i have ever read, including various roxy threads here, tells me i am wrong.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 2 February 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

Perhaps my first Fall LP should not have been "Domesday Triad Plus"

sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Friday, 2 February 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

The first Can album I bought, and indeed the first Can I ever heard, was Unlimited Edition, which really put me off for about two years.

It, er, lacks focus. It wasn't till someone played me Haleluwah that the scales fell from my eyes. I love The Empress and the Ukraine King on it now, and Connection.

It's still not really that good, though. Still, worth a bob or two, I expect.

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 2 February 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

Same story as Jamie re. Can, but mine was 'Flow Motion'

I first heard Beefheart playing 'Hothead' on SNL but couldnt find the album that was on, so I ended up getting the only one they had, ie. 'Trout Mask', which I guess most people will consider as the 'right' album to get, but which threw me off for a while.

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Friday, 2 February 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

The funny thing is, I could see that being an appropriate response to THE VELVET UNDERGROUND & NICO

Heh heh...Imagine how I felt back in '85 when I bought that newly-reissued, long-awaited banana album: My first chance to hear 'em, finally! Put in the cassette (ignorantly) expecting psychedelic acid-rock, get "Sunday Morning" instead. Dismayed, I stop the tape a few seconds into "Waiting For The Man" and turn it over: Horrible racket! "European Son", what is this shit? Rewind for a bit, play, same arrhythmic racket again. And again! Jesus Christ, how long is this thing?! Is this a joke? etc. A week or so later and I decided that it was maybe my favourite record in the world. (I didn't start a band of my own, tho.)

M. Agony Von Bontee (M. Agony Von Bontee), Friday, 2 February 2007 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

i bought can's future days because of something i read in mojo. was so nonplussed by it that it took five years and prodding by a friend to get me to listen to delay 1968 and monster movie which i took to instantly. still haven't made it back to future days, and i'm not really itching to.

Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Friday, 2 February 2007 23:10 (eighteen years ago)

On more than one occasion, with not much info to begin with and faced with vague album artwork, I've ended up with live albums. There was nothing wrong with the songs, I was just not expecting to start off hearing a bands material in a live setting. I usually care about that after.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Friday, 2 February 2007 23:54 (eighteen years ago)

I got XTC's Apple Venus 1 first, which I love, but knowing they had a 20 year history made me gun-shy for the rest of their catalog. I still haven't 'gotten into them' as such, only heard a couple more albums but I love Drums and Wires for instance so I think I'll be alright.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Thursday, 8 February 2007 04:29 (eighteen years ago)

Some people are really surprised when I say I bought Goo first. I don't think it's the wrong album per se-- in fact, I really like it-- but I think most people get really freaked out by Kim's vocals on it and can't take it or something.

Now if you bought Washing Machine first...well...

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 8 February 2007 04:37 (eighteen years ago)

washing machine is my second favourite one.

i bought dirty first, which i don't like at all, but recall liking at the time

Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Thursday, 8 February 2007 07:59 (eighteen years ago)

I love Washing Machine. One of their very best.

is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Thursday, 8 February 2007 09:08 (eighteen years ago)


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