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Just listened to Mind Disaster. Some good stuff here, although I usually prefer something a little more "spacey".

Opinions?

Tom White (lunaticgrass), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 11:24 (eighteen years ago)

not much CM stuff ever did it for me. they always had some good tunes here and there, but it always just seemed a little too lukewarm.

vermonster on the other hand...

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 11:42 (eighteen years ago)

Lukewarm? I think not! Admittedly not as massively skronked-out as Vermonster or blissful as Magic Hour or full-on righteous as the new Major Stars, but lukewarm? I can't have that. Listen:

The thing is, all of their albums are quite different, and as it was Wayne Rogers' first major project, there are various elements of his musical psyche crammed onto the LPs which he would later take the more reasonable step of creating different bands for. So Mind Disaster (1983) and Dog Trees, Satellite Seers (1987) follow this route, with some glorious psych-pop confections interspersed with stoned freak-outs and dirges. Search ‘Spinning Around’ from the 2nd LP fer sure, that song makes me feel awesome whenever I hear it.

This Wideness Comes (1989) was perhaps an attempt at college rock stardom (with a proper release on No.6 after a miniscule pressing on Twisted Village), but it makes few concessions to this and manages to be slightly folkier but worse-produced and pretty gnarly overall. Damaged Lights (1991) I've never heard because it's almost impossible to get hold of, but as far as I know it's all improvised with no songs. Revelations from Pandemonium (1992) is the glorious swansong; a glowing example of Wayne's song craft and the massed sound of his and Kate's guitars. The lead guitar at the end of 'Knowing the Sunshine’ is one of my favourite things ever. Here things are definitely moving towards the direction that they would continue with Damon & Naomi in Magic Hour (also fantastic and massively underrated - all three albums for sure).

Major Stars can be seen in the same lineage also, until the recent line-up change which means that Wayne no longer sings, so although I love what they do now (especially live, as I finally got the chance to see at ATP and I can't wait to see again), there is a definite shift to a full-on righteous rock behemoth rather than the noisy, song-based, guitar freak-out group of yore. And I really miss Wayne’s voice.

Whatever, I love this shit. Wayne and Kate just don’t get enough props. Where’s the love, people?!

myopic_void (myopic_void), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

the little CM i've heard i've enjoyed to a degree, but i came at them from the perspective of someone who saw magic hour as a massive comedown in the wake of the G500 breakup. they were never going to be able to get over that in my mind. i think i'd probably enjoy magic hour a lot more though now

jimbo (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:07 (eighteen years ago)

And I really miss Wayne’s voice.

wow. see, his voice is one of the main problems i've got with... uh... everything he's ever done. so bland and college rock-y.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

Yup, I can't explain it myself, but that's just not what I hear. I think it's his way with a vocal melody as much as anything.

Sometimes I think I prefer Magic Hour to Galaxie 500, but I know I'm in the minority there. I think Naomi's bass playing sounds awesome with Wayne and Kate's guitars feeding back and everything. It gives a kind of measured pacing that creates a great clarity. I loves it.

myopic_void (myopic_void), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

Mind Disasters is great, and I really love This Wideness Comes. Most folks put that one down, but I suspect it's just sour grapes about the fact that it was a relatively high-profile release for them, killing their inside-secret cred.

I'm also in the minority that loves Wayne's voice. Used to bug the shit out of me, and it is "college rock-y", but I think it suits his songwriting very well. That sing-songy nasal whine isn't at all out of place in pastoral folk/psych and gives the quieter passages a kind of awkward delicacy. Contrasts nicely with the inevitable noise meltdowns, too.

Are Crystallized Movements as good as Major Stars/Magic Hour? No. but I like 'em about as well as as Vermonster or Galaxie 500. Vermonster have the endless, bonged-out noodle-war, of course, but that gets on my nerves after a while, and G500 are usually too tepid to endure.

the new sincerity (Pye Poudre), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

I love his voice and love the Wayne Rogers solo album. Saw Major Stars last saturday and missed his singing.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

This Wideness Comes is worth the price of admission for "Third Half" alone. Wayne Rogers sings with his hands.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

Saw 'em in '89 at the CBGB's Record Store when they were still shopping TWC around. They were great, fuck I'm old, etc.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

Hell yeah. I'm also a big fan of that song in 3/4 on that LP, 'By Unseen Hands'.

That's cool that other people do rate his voice, now I know I'm not wrong. Having never seen any Wayne Rogers project before, it would've been great to hear him sing, but to be fair, it did allow him greater freedom to righteously storm around the stage at ATP, and his massive run-up and dive on to his guitar at the end of the set was one of the greatest things I've seen. They totally slayed. How were they last Sat, Dan?

Also, there are seven proper WR solo albums that I know of.

myopic_void (myopic_void), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

Mind Disaster and This Wideness Comes are "great" I guess, but I never get the urge to play 'em. Killer guitar sounds of course, and a cool land-that-time-forgot aura, but I have trouble telling the songs apart. I don't dislike Rogers' singing as much as totally ignore it. It'd be nice if they could add the occasional bit of saxophone skronk or something, just for variety. I'd have worshipped them in high school, not that I'd have been able to find their records anywhere in my town.

M. Agony Von Bontee (M. Agony Von Bontee), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)


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