has anyone seen this 'Made in Sheffield' dvd from 2001 ?

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the trailer on you tube makes it look fantastic.

pisces (piscesx), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

yes. it isn't fantasic.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

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the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

I picked it up over here some time back but me being me I keep forgetting to watch it. I assume it's reasonably great but TOHBC now gives me cause for concern.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

i can't link to the 3 minute trailer in here but it really does look aces on there. having said that i see its barely the length of a south bank show docu which looks a bit on the mean side.

being born in liverpool and living in manchester for 12 years makes it virtually verboten to *buy* this thing (like "PAH! a dvd about poxy old sheffield!") but the human league and abc stuff looks ace.

no offence intended ilm sheffo types obviously!

pisces (piscesx), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

Three stars

Andy_K (Andy_K), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

I was born in sheffield, but given that it's the city that gave the world def leppard I don't like to admit to it very often.

m the g (mister the guanoman), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

it's a few interviews, some quite poor bits where they smash a guitar, erm... can't remember.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

i've managed to not buy it yet, which surprises me.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

it's remarkably bad and amateurishly produced, which was a massive disappointment. heavily relies on poorly shot talking head footage.

Eric Harvey (eric marathonpacks), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, a bit of a dissapointment...they only show really short clips that make you want more. And in the talking heads dept, they got Chris Watson but no Kirk or Mallinder, which I thought was weird.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

it's pretty crap actually.

This is a good example of watching something and knowing that what hit the editing room floor was way more interesting that what actually made the final cut.

to sum it up:

Sheffield was boring--->we were arty kids who were bored--->we used synths instead of guitars--->Artery was dope, like a second string Joy Division--->the postpunk scene crested--->Human League broke up--->then ABC came out and got huge, also Heaven 17 to a lesser extent--->some of us made it, some of us didn't--->now we are all old and fat...

The Chris Watson bonus out-takes were really the only thing that was good about this dvd. He talks about Western Works, leaving the Cabs in 82 and how he fanatically collected tape recorders as a kid. Neat Guy.

The DVD gives this really fuzzy outline of events and doesn't give you any real info on any of it. It is like watching a 90 minute doc on WWII. It amounts to telling the same story about any rock scene ever, see diagram above. I wanted details, and I saw very few.

The stock footage was cool tho...

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

Hmm, pity. I wonder if Shadowplayers came about in part because James Nice wanted to make sure that story was done 'right,' as it were. (Chris Watson's in that too!)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

heavily relies on poorly shot talking head footage.

This isn't such a big deal. The problem is that they were not being asked the right question in the interviews or if they were, their answers were edited out.

Oakey, I see those synths back there, talk about em!

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

Doesn't Shadowplayers focus on Manchester?

It did feature the guy from 2.3 which was pretty cool.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

Doesn't Shadowplayers focus on Manchester?

Precisely. (I meant in the sense of James N. thinking, "Okay, if I'm going to tell the Factory story properly...)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

Well, okay, I wouldn't recommend the Sheffield DVD to someone who knows everything.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

Or a Comsat Angels fan.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

what i took from the trail was that it was their chance to tell a kind of 'hey look sheffield played just as much of a part as manchester in the post punk pop revolution' type story but it looks like they dropped that ball.

pisces (piscesx), Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

I want to see the I'm So Hollow footage!

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

I too was rather disappointed with it (and surprised to be so). Best thing about it was the live footage of Artery I think, but I was also quite upset that the only member of Cabaret Voltaire on it was Chris Watson who wasn't in the band very long before they became a duo.

A Tiny Footpath (Bimble...), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

(sorry, should have read Dan's post first)

Lack of Comsats is a very good point!

A Tiny Footpath (Bimble...), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

from someone not in england and unaware of the scene until about about a year after it started, i enjoyed the DVD immensely.

phil turnbull (philT), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

Agreed, if you aren't already schooled up and down about the Sheffield scene and its importance, there's a lot to learn by watching. I can't think of any documentary that's aimed at those who already know everything about the subject... what would be the point?

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

I would concur that the best thing about it is the footage of Artery and I'm so hollow from futurama. Much better getting the book,'beats working for a living'.

leigh (leigh), Friday, 2 February 2007 01:02 (eighteen years ago)

informative maybe, but horribly made.

youth problem (YouthProblem), Friday, 2 February 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

I just realized that the knife I use exclusively in my kitchen to cut food was engraved as being made in Sheffield.

Is this the coolest thing in the world? Yes. Because I'm an anglophile and it gives me an excuse to pull out Cabaret Voltaire.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 04:25 (seventeen years ago)

I'm serious. It says Sheffield England. No lie.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 04:27 (seventeen years ago)

http://sheffield-cutlery.com/

J0hn D., Tuesday, 10 June 2008 09:17 (seventeen years ago)

Sheffield used to make all the knives and forks and spoons in the world (slight exaggeration)

Tom D., Tuesday, 10 June 2008 09:19 (seventeen years ago)

how to operate with a blown mind.jpg

banriquit, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 09:19 (seventeen years ago)

Hahaha

Bimble, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 17:09 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

The best thing about this documentary was getting a chance to read another of Bimble's nuggets above. Made in Sheffield is freakishly bad, an egregious example of poor attempts at ventilating talking heads footage. In the absence of compelling visuals, the director needs to compensate with a fresh or deeper take on the subject which just doesn't happen here. As someone pointed out, it's just too short to properly cover all of the bands mentioned.

I can't think of any documentary that's aimed at those who already know everything about the subject... what would be the point?

Such people don't exist. But it would be nice to have a documentary for, shall we say, Advanced Placement students. What about those synths behind Oakey? How about more on the particular places where all this cultural activity took place? (Oakey is entertaining, though, mainly because he refuses to downshift his pomposity. And he still look great.)

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 10 August 2009 07:33 (sixteen years ago)


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