I'm very curious to hear Aussie's take on Cold Chisel

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― toe-foo (toe-foo), Saturday, 3 February 2007 12:55 (eighteen years ago)

Esteban was a massive fan. He had Barnesy posters on his wall.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Saturday, 3 February 2007 13:04 (eighteen years ago)

haha

CHEAP WINE AND A THREE DAY GROWTH
CHEAP WINE AND A THREE DAY GROWTH

― jimbo (electricsound), Saturday, 3 February 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't even know that Australians had fought in 'Nam until I heard that song.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 3 February 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

cold chisel were ubiquitous - they gigged everywhere all of the time, their songs were played on every radio station and countdown showed their videos consistently. many of their songs were OK but they were such a favourite of the yobbo's and suburban dick-heads that i always loathed them. and they were far too blues-rock for my tastes. as with most big aussie bands, they tried to make it overseas and failed miserably and, if i remember correctly, it was because barnsey's voice made the record company execs wince. as with all these things, time has tempered my loathing and replaced it with mild annoyance.

― phil turnbull (philT), Saturday, 3 February 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

great songwriter, terrible singer, repulsive fanbase.

― duckers taught her (kit brash), Saturday, 3 February 2007 23:06 (eighteen years ago)

And when ever barnesy came over here the scottish media always went on about him just because he's scottish born (i think) (see also AC/DC, Men At Work etc).

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Saturday, 3 February 2007 23:18 (eighteen years ago)

repulsive fanbase.

Are they these "Bogans" that we hear about on aussie soaps?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Saturday, 3 February 2007 23:57 (eighteen years ago)

yes

― toe-foo (toe-foo), Sunday, 4 February 2007 08:12 (eighteen years ago)

I live in Australia so well aware of there 'fanbase' etc....was just curious if any Australians had anything good ot say about them.

Saw Don Walker play at Byron Bay recently - fanatastic.

― toe-foo (toe-foo), Sunday, 4 February 2007 08:14 (eighteen years ago)

Yes some of the songs are very good but you have to sort of squint your ears to hear past Barnsey and the layers of sedimented cultural associations.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 4 February 2007 08:15 (eighteen years ago)

Think of the two (two!) radical deconstructions of "When The War Is Over" that have appeared on Australian Idol to date.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 4 February 2007 08:16 (eighteen years ago)

I lived with a bunch of indie-rock Australian dudes in a church in Adelaide and they would unabashedly and unironically play "Chisel" at top volume. It sounds like Dad-rock to me, but there's certainly love for them here even among hipster-types.

― Emmett_Stinson (Emmett_Stinson), Sunday, 4 February 2007 09:32 (eighteen years ago)

the burstingness of Barne's face on the video to "Working Class Man" is Videodrome-esque.

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Sunday, 4 February 2007 11:06 (eighteen years ago)

LOOKING LIKE A CHOIRGIRL
SHE'S CRYING LIKE A REFUGEE

they are pretty good
very underappreciated lyrically, i feel

― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Sunday, 4 February 2007 11:32 (eighteen years ago)

If Wickipedia is right, Bogans have pretty good taste! (Did they also like the Angels? I hope so.):

[edit] Elements of the stereotype
The bogan stereotype is roughly equivalent to the British chav stereotype, or the American white trash, although the term bogan does not necessarily suggest violent or anti-social behaviour. Certain styles of clothing are stereotypically associated with bogans, including Moccasin-style slippers, ugg boots, jeans, and black leggings [5][6][7]. Bogan is also used in New Zealand, where it is applied in particular to those who live in medium-sized provincial towns such as Timaru, Napier, and Gore, as well as some larger cities, like Palmerston North and Hamilton.

[edit] Non-pejorative usage
The term "bogan" has sometimes been used in apparently favourable contexts despite its origins as a pejorative term. Radio station Triple J held a "National Bogan Day" on 28 June 2002, which they commemorated by playing music from bands such as Cold Chisel, Midnight Oil, Rose Tattoo and AC/DC.[8]

And AMG makes Cold Chisel sound somewhat promising, too, hmmm..

Cold Chisel is the classic Australian "pub rock band", playing a tough breed of rock and blues inspired by seventies bands like Free, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin but characterised by the story-telling skills of their main songwriter, Don Walker, whose personal influences came from Bob Dylan. Between 1978 and 1983 Cold Chisel ruled as Australia's most popular band on record and stage. The band sold over three million records in Australia alone, two thirds of that number after their bitter break-up.

Unless Wickipedia and AMG are wrong. Are they?

― xhuxk (xhuck), Sunday, 4 February 2007 12:12 (eighteen years ago)

If Wickipedia is right, Bogans have pretty good taste! (Did they also like the Angels? I hope so.)

the angels are THE ultimate bogan band!

doc neeson: "am I ever gonna see your face again?"
crowd: "NO WAY GET FUCKED FUCK OFF"

― slackety yax (H2-H4), Sunday, 4 February 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

chisel are pretty good, I like a bunch of their songs but they were so omni-present when I were a yoof that I don't really need to hear them again. (chuck: i'd say they aren't really heavy enough to warrant zep/deep purple comparisons.)

― slackety yax (H2-H4), Sunday, 4 February 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

me: 'so jimmy barnes is like the aussie bruce springsteen?'
aussie chick : 'no mate bruce springsteen is the american jimmy barnes!'

― Michael B (Michael B), Sunday, 4 February 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

Said Aussie chick = my new hero.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 February 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

Haitch says what I was going to: I'm sure under all the bombast some Chisel songs are not too bad ("Flame Trees" is pretty good, I guess). But I can't get past the years of associations with bogans (or as we called them where I come from, westies) who liked this kind of stuff. I kind of lump it in with things like hair metal as a result, because all the same kind of kids at school liked it, and none of them liked people like me who was into poofter music like Howard Jones :(

Rock music was a different beast in the early 80s in Australia, full of bikers and surfies and a nasty undercurrent of violence - I wish I'd lived in Melbourne back then, and had seen some of the sharpies!

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 5 February 2007 04:51 (eighteen years ago)

Oh and the other guy's solo career - Ian Moss, was it? - was godawful MOR shite. That song "Tuckers Daughter" makes my teeth ache.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 5 February 2007 04:52 (eighteen years ago)

tucker's daughter's a memory

― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Monday, 5 February 2007 06:07 (eighteen years ago)

did moss or barnsey actually write anything? is this one of those crazy bands where pretty much everyone except the singer and lead guitarist wrote all the songs?

― jimbo (electricsound), Monday, 5 February 2007 06:09 (eighteen years ago)

hmm the 'best of' has three barnsey songs, one moss, one by the bass dude, two great prestwich tunes and a metric buttload of don walker songs

― jimbo (electricsound), Monday, 5 February 2007 06:11 (eighteen years ago)

"But I can't get past the years of associations with bogans (or as we called them where I come from, westies"

---weirdly enough Trayce that's the other main term for bogans where I'm from, too.

― THE IDEA OF THE WEST? (Andrew Thames), Monday, 5 February 2007 08:58 (eighteen years ago)

i'd say bogans is more defining of an attitude ie. pro-australian flag etc., whereas westie refers to where someone comes from geographically, ie. western suburbs. the two are pretty frequently interlinked by circumstance and events, however.

― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Monday, 5 February 2007 09:08 (eighteen years ago)

well - in Sydney..and Auckland..a westie often refers to a certain type of person from West Sydney/Auckland.....ie - a bogan

― toe-foo (toe-foo), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 08:44 (eighteen years ago)

recent history would suggest a substantial numbers of bogans haunting sydney's southern beaches also...

― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 09:12 (eighteen years ago)

a bogan once punched me in the nose when I told him Freddie Mercury was gay. ah, the eighties...

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 12:35 (eighteen years ago)

recent history would suggest

what's characteristically bogan about bra boys?

― beach cricket (kit brash), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

C: "PLAY KHE SHAN", Flame Trees, the fact that Barnsey is from ELIZABETH, playing at the Semaphore Hotel.

D: Pretty much everything else to do with them.

Nuclear Holocaust in Five Seconds: Their "comeback".

Nuclear Holocaust in One Second: Ver bogans that love them free of irony.

― King Boy Pato (patog27), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 23:42 (eighteen years ago)

Working Class Man was better than any Chisel song except for Khe Shan and Flame Trees, by the way. Oh oh oh HE'S AHHHHH WORKIN CLAAAASS MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!

― King Boy Pato (patog27), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 23:45 (eighteen years ago)

For many a year I used to think it was "CHEAP WINE AND A TEENAGE WHORE" - scans perfectly, and a much improved lyric. But yes, for a lot of us there's too much cultural baggage with reinvesting time and emotion into re-evaluating Chisel - let sleeping dogs lie. Don Walker is a very good songwriter mind. Flame Trees is a great song.

― mentalist (mentalist), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 02:19 (eighteen years ago)

CHEAP WINE AND A THREE WAY GOAT.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 03:04 (eighteen years ago)

haha bra boys.

dunno. oafish, racist sydneysiders are one and the same to me.

― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 05:30 (eighteen years ago)

that's some informed historical analysis then.

― two foot swell (kit brash), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 07:28 (eighteen years ago)

haha

― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 08:57 (eighteen years ago)

six years pass...

charlie is desperately trying to get me into Cold Chisel via the soundrop room we go in.

― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 8 September 2013 13:04 (twelve years ago)

haha. they're a bit like INXS in the respect that it's easy to forget how many great singles they have.

― charlie h, Sunday, 8 September 2013 13:09 (twelve years ago)

oof this is really really bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKEIQQs6qO8

and the racist comments under it are depressing

― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 8 September 2013 13:28 (twelve years ago)

sad remnant of my youth

― charlie h, Sunday, 8 September 2013 13:59 (twelve years ago)

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