Radiohead Live Youtube Bonanza

yah seriously I thought this was I Love Music not Bash other people for liking a song I don't.

maybe this thread was a dumb idea but I thought those were cool videos and was wondering if anyone else from ILM found anything like those. MELISSA!

And I assume that if anyone actually *wanted* to find such videos on YouTube, they already would have done so without your prompting. Badly done digicam videos of Radiohead concerts on YouTube aren't exactly a rarity.

I got really excited about hearing this and wanted to talk about it. It reminds me of how i felt when i first heard "there there". I think this album is going to be great and I love radioheads slower and more melodic type stuff like this. maybe a youtube thread wasn't the best way to go about it but it got some feedback for the song. Also that was the best video I could find where the audio isn't complete garbage.

i think this is one of the most beautiful songs radiohead has done yet. Can't wait to hear it either on the album or an ep. I think it would make a great album closer.

also i think that if a bar band played a song that even resembled "4 minute warning", the whole place would stop in awe. this is great stuff and i can't see how you think this is a dissapointment. i havnt spent enough time with radioheads other new live stuff but this one just hit me right away.

also that acoustic version of "you" is beautiful....so....whatever man..haha

It's an insult to the other beautiful songs that Radiohead have written to even pretend this dull tripe is on the same level.

also i think that if a bar band played a song that even resembled "4 minute warning", the whole place would stop in awe. this is great stuff and i can't see how you think this is a dissapointment. i havnt spent enough time with radioheads other new live stuff but this one just hit me right away.
You seriously think a song that dull would get people to ignore their beer? This is a disappointment precisely because Radiohead are fully capable of writing songs that have a lot of color and movement, and instead chose to drink of the same well that every middle of the road band in the UK gets their songs from.

If Chris Martin or the twat from Keane were singing this song, you wouldn't give it a second thought.

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Anyhow,

I see exactly what you're saying here and I agree a little bit.

What did you think of "Scatterbrain"? I think this is going to be the same type of deal. its a great song but a lot of fans would have been dissapointed it every song on Hail to the Thief sounded like it. "4 Minute Warning" is a great song but I wouldnt want the whole album to sound like that. I think its good that radiohead has a few really accessable and pretty songs like this. I think this track is definately going to stand out. Its going to be a breath of fresh air I think. It will fit nicely. Its also not bad by anymeans. Its a beautiful melody and i really think that solo by Greenwood is going to sound so great recorded and completely lift it to a different level than what those middle of the road UK bands are doing.

If this was a Keane or Coldplay song it would still be good but it isn't. It has Yorke's falsetto and Greenwood's guitar.

It has Yorke's falsetto and Greenwood's guitar.
Does it then follow that you think that any song that has these two things would be good? Because I think that's a dangerous trap, both for the fans and the band themselves. For a fan, that's when you've pretty much entered that scary twilight zone where you've given up your ability to hear anything by said band objectively. And when a band become convinced that a song is different or superior just because they're the ones playing on it, that's when they lose their drive to actually explore music any further.

Leaving aside the fact that 4 Minute Warning is unlikely to sound remotely the same when (if) it gets recorded, I'm a bit disturbed by the suggestion that Radiohead are at their best when they're doing complexity - as if the simple emotional connection of a Fake Plastic Trees (to name but one) is now beneath them (and you).

Some of the best Radiohead songs are undoubtedly complex, ambitious, strange: Pyramid Song, Pull/Pulk Revolving Doors.

And some of their more complex songs are among those I can live without.

Surely it comes down to nothing more than, the melody strikes you as banal. It strikes me as powerful. Either way, I would hesitate before turning that difference into a theory of aesthetic enjoyment based on a song's musical 'complexity'.

If 4 Minute Warning can't be called banal, then no song in history can. I don't just dislike it as a Radiohead song, but as a song in general.

And the song is a significant departure from their work of the past ten years. It lacks texture and harmony and any sense of dynamics, making it to me indistinguishable from any of the MOR bands blighting the airwaves currently. It's as bad as The Fray or Daniel Powter or whatever else. There is nothing that separates it other than Thom's voice, which frankly doesn't mean shit to me if it's singing an ugly song.

I mean, if music qua music is deemed irrelevant to quality, then what the fuck are people meant to be making judgments based on?

Im not just praising this song because its a radiohead song. I just think its a beautiful song. If you want to bash the lyrics a little bit I can definately give you that. But I think this melody is great and those three chords sound really powerful. And thom's voice goes great with everything thats going on in it. When he sings "Soon I'm gonna wake up" it just sounds so great I don't know how any fan of music or radiohead can be dissapointed in this song.

"Four Minute Warning" isn't just simply pleasantness. It builds the whole time and his voice just adds so much power and life.

you have some really great points though.

I agree that radiohead is capable of writing songs that have a lot of color and movement, and while this may not be their crowning achievment by any means i still think you can't just dismiss it and its a great departure from a lot of their more technical and experimental stuff. I would be very dissapointed if all their new stuff sounds like this but from the looks of it that isn't the case.

i understand that you dont want radiohead to just become this formulaic middle of the road band like Coldplay did but im telling you this isn't the case. This is a great track and its so much more than the bland garbage you say it is. The first time i heard it i was blown away. its a great song that grabs you the first time. not too many radio tracks are this accessable. I think its good that they have some like this.

its cool that someone cares so much about the band though. im not just some fanboy who loves every song that they make but this song is different. this is a great radiohead track.

The song doesn't go anywhere? Not to be too trite about it, but it starts, it has a middle and then it ends. What are you expecting - The Odyssey? And ultimately, there's something trite about constantly re-using a song dynamic that just builds and builds, one reason why I've liked the live versions of the Arpeggi, with its quieter extended coda.

Do you really want to start pulling on the string that says a song's gotta have more than four chords before it can be memorable, or that it's gotta go on a journey...?

Please feel free to answer in the affirmative.

The best music is surprising and at least slightly thrilling. Even the simplest folk song. There has to be something, some lilt of the melody, some unexpected chord, some development or dynamic, or a slightly unnerving harmony that launches the music into a different sphere.

The new Arpeggi is especially disappointing. Very U2. The orchestral version from Ether was much more interesting.

And I was at that show in Berkeley. Honestly, I don't even remember them playing 4 Minute Warning. I've gone into denial where that song is concerned, trying to convince myself that they're pulling some kind of joke on the audience.

I can hardly believe that the same band who could write something as affecting as Like Spinning Plates could possibly have written 4MW.

It's especially perplexing considering how great all of Jonny's newish classical stuff is, and how good The Eraser was. 4 Minute Warning doesn't share any genetic material with either of those endeavors, to an incredibly bizarre degree.

I also want to say that "Like Spinning Plates" is one of my favorite songs by them but its also good to have stuff like "4 Minute Warning" to give us a something a little less involving. 4MW is a nice, simple, and powerful song.

I think its awsome that they can make a song like "Fake plastic Trees" then make a song like "Paranoid Android" then go and make "Pulk/Pull Revolving Doors" and come around with a nice little song like "Four Minute Warning"

Best Band Eveer award. haha

i almost forgot to mention that when Nigel gets ahold of this track its going to definitely be much more than something the Fray or a Coldplay soundalike would do.

bonanzas don't just happen on their own. it takes a community.

this is a pretty awsome performance of Idioteque

Anyway, if you understood what Melissa W wrote, it never implied that anyone with a dissenting opinion is retarded. It was just a dry recital of the fact (regarding Louis Jagger).

Expliquez, s'il vous plait.

a) are you retarded?
b) ...no, wait, I don't actually have another question.

-- Melissa W (MelCarame...), February 6th, 2007.

Like, yay for you that you discovered YouTube a year too late, and that you like some of Radiohead's most awful material ever and find this "exciting". But uhhh...why the fuck did you feel the need to tell the world?

-- Melissa W (MelCarame...), February 6th, 2007.

I'd like, Turangalila, to draw your attention to the word 'Like' at the start of the second post. Such a word, used at such a position in the sentence, is usually an explanatory conjunction. Like, that she's qualifying what she said in her first post. Now let's look at the second post. "yay that you discovered Youtube a year too late", she says. Now, Turalilingerer, you wouldn't mind hazarding a guess as to whom that's addressed? Myself, or the fella who started the thread with a couple of Youtube URLs? Think hard, it shouldn't take you too long.

So, what have we worked out? We've worked out that both Melissa's first and second posts are directed at the same person, and that that person is the thread-starter, and not myself. Therefore, your point that she was 'describing Louis as a retard', and that 'the answer was pretty evident' appears to have backfired rather spectacularly.

In fact, I'd go as far as to say that you're the retard. Although seeing as that would reduce myself to the same sort of playground idiocy that you're currently operating at, I'll refrain.

Oooh! a petard, and its owner hoisted thereby. Bra-VO.

You crack me up, dude.

http://home.student.uu.se/hehi1133/thom%20animation.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIF5HR_wXHk

this video of Idioteque on SNL is pretty awsome. I remember watching it.

Why jump on the bandwagon? I'm no longer even 'kick me' flavour of the month! You're simply unwilling to accept the fact that you got COMPLETELY PWNED, and this saddens me a little.

Stop now. There's no point in getting people all nostalgic.

Radiohead and Michael Stipe - Lucky

Just came back from the Seattle show at Key Arena. This was my first Radiohead show. It was great, of course. But I don't regret waiting this long either. It's like I caught a band that was HUUUUUUGE who now are merely huge while they felt freer to truly weird out, instead of "weird out" in 2001, if that makes sense. If they were starting to sound like Can in the 2000s, they're starting to sound like Faust in the 2010s. Drums drums drums mood beats, Thom's giddy stoned banter, and drums summed up the set. Only one "rawk" song for the entire night. It's pretty much what I asked for.

Here's the setlist:
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/radiohead/2012/keyarena-seattle-wa-73de0ab9.html

No YouTubes from tonight's show yet, but this track was played tonight, and was a highlight for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxScY_ADvkg

Ah, someone sent me this as a birthday present, from Seattle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aEDmzZQaL8&feature=youtu.be

(HTDC and Arpeggi, apparently)

was pleasantly surprised that they didn't play v much 90s material at all, maybe 3 or 4 in the whole set, when we saw em in Denver last month