The 80s revival was really from 77-86 and the 90s revival will be from 87 on

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there's this hipster dj kid in SF that's been trying to bring back the 90s for a few years now. definitely a few years early. i finally heard him play records a few weeks ago and surprisingly it wasn't that bad. mostly one hit wonder type stuff and lots of r'n'b and hip-pop and new jack swing.

ANYWAYS. he played "Wishing Well" by Terrence Trent D'arby and i've totally been grooving on it (never was a fan in the past) and i've been trying to convince people that even though it came out in 87, it's a 90s song.

when people are reviving the 80s, they include early synthpop and postpunk, all things that started in the late 70s. even if they're not actually from the 80s, they created the blueprint for what was to come and so can be included.

― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

D'arby might be better classified as the last of the 80s

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

"smells like teen spirit" is skiffle. discus.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

I think in the UK you can make a case that the 90s began in 1988 with acid house. However I think in the States you'd say it begun with grunge and hence the 90s started late, or something (!)

― Treblekicker (treblekicker), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

i like old school hip hop, you know like snoop.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

Grunge started in 1988, it just didn't reach pop consciousness til 91.

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

Acid house started in about 85 but didn't reach pop conciousness till 88. Sometimes I'd argue, pop conciousness is the point.

― Treblekicker (treblekicker), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

Acid house seems '80s to me.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

you guys are all proving my point. except that bastart Steve Shasta, who i wish would get eaten by a lobster

― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

yes, i said bastart

― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

but by the time "acid house" had simmered in the UK for bit, "electronica" results, which is squarely "90s"

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah but from a Brit perspective, we never really used the term electronica. That's what you guys called The Orb, Underworld, Orbital, Leftfield etc. We called them things like intelligent techno, ambient house, progressive house. Terms rooted in the 80s.

― Treblekicker (treblekicker), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

for a music that was big in the 90s?

― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

But with roots in the 80s.

― Treblekicker (treblekicker), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.swordandsorcery.org/images/ouroboros.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

Quite possibly. Y'know, for a total headfuck where will the 00's revival start? (!)

― Treblekicker (treblekicker), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

come back doglatin all is forgiven!

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

To me

80s = underground Hip-Hop/House/Alternative
80s = mainstream Freestyle/Synth Pop/hair metal

90s = mainstream Hip-Hop/Alternative
90s = underground indie/electronic

― PappaWheelie MMCMXL (PappaWheelie 2), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

WHERE IS MY UNDERGROUND HAIR HOUSE METAL?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

last KLF single, dog

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

WHERE IS MORE UNDERGROUND HAIR HOUSE METAL?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

honor the fire

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

white zombie, etc

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

What '90s music does "Wishing Well" prefigure?

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

(I'm not saying it doesn't - I'm just not sure.)

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

Soul II Soul and Brand New Heavies' US radio success? I don't know.

― PappaWheelie MMCMXL (PappaWheelie 2), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

that drum sound and the samples sounds very 90s to me

― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

Like Fine Young Canibals? Gated snares, et al?

― PappaWheelie MMCMXL (PappaWheelie 2), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

I guess if Seal typifies 90s

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

Terence Trent was the CeeLo Green of the '80s.

― novamax (novamax), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

back to life....back to reality

― M@tt He1g3s0n: oh u mad cuz im stylin on u (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

"Terence Trent was the CeeLo Green of the '80s."

I think I understand what you're saying, but Cee Lo hasn't released anything as far left-field as TTD. And while Terence's "artistry" cost him most of his audience and untold millions, Cee-Lo actually gained quite a bit by changing up styles.

― B.Graff (mr_graff), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 01:21 (eighteen years ago)

Acid house seems '80s to me.

Acid house was and 80s trend. However, it was the beginning of electronica, which was very much a typical 90s phenomenon.

OK, you could argue that Kraftwerk etc. were also the beginning of electronica, but they influenced synthpop just as much as they influenced electronica.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 01:36 (eighteen years ago)

I really can't imagine why you'd refer to "Wishing Well" as a 90s song.

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 02:58 (eighteen years ago)

Almost any decade's fads (including pop music) is distinctly remembered differently whether you're talking about the last three years or the previous half. 90s music will be talked about being as much about Fatboy Slim and Boybands by the time the mainstream media get around to it.

― Cunga (Cunga), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 03:00 (eighteen years ago)

I AM STILL WAITING FOR THE '00S COMPANY B - "FASCINATED." IF THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN, ALL WE FOUGHT AND DIED FOR WAS FOR NAUGHT.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 7 February 2007 03:03 (eighteen years ago)

unless it's that Nelly Furtado song

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 7 February 2007 03:04 (eighteen years ago)

I really can't imagine why you'd refer to "Wishing Well" as a 90s song.

Agreed. Very archetypical late 80s. Lots of FM synths and "hard" synth sounds.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 03:05 (eighteen years ago)

Jane Child "Don't want to fall in love" is epic.

― Valoss (valoss), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

yeah. it probably could've come out in '87 tho (remember Pretty Poison? no me neither).

― vita susicivus (blueski), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

When I did my early 90s revival party in 2003 (ahead of the curve of course) i snuck in a lot of stuff from the late 80s - Soul II Soul, early Neneh Cherry, Technotronic and Black Box, Soho and Beats International etc. It was really a revival of that intersection of dance music and soul/r&b/hip hop.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 8 February 2007 07:16 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

I don't know when the 90s revival began but it is definitely happening.
The secondhand price of the Yamaha DX-100 is going way up, and it is not because people suddenly have a passion for recreating "Nude Photo", but rather because it integrates well with a talkbox for emulating "No Diggity" and "California Love". Soon a shitty 4-op FM synth with minikeys will be able to pay my rent in new york city!

― Shh! It's NOT Me!, Saturday, 3 January 2009 01:41 (sixteen years ago)

yeah but synth prices are generally going up. the price of an sh-101 for example has doubled in the past few years (my brother got one for £200 in 2006)

― rio (r1o natsume), Saturday, 3 January 2009 01:50 (sixteen years ago)

My local 70s soul jams station converted last week to New Jack Swing and 90s rapnb type of shit and I am the happiest man on earth.

― HOOSytime steenman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 3 January 2009 01:54 (sixteen years ago)

spot the ?uestlove

― HOOSytime steenman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 3 January 2009 01:55 (sixteen years ago)

yeah synth prices are going up but mostly on things that are actually good. I can't justify spending $5000 on a JP8 but it is at least a JP8! The DX100 will soon be as much as a DX7, which doesn't make any damn sense without the "talkbox" craze. Its like the SH-1 becoming more expensive than the SH-5 or 7. ~~(SH-101 prices have always been a bit silly to me. I like the SH-2 a lot more, though maybe I shouldn't say that as I don't own one right now and don't want to drive up prices)~~

― Shh! It's NOT Me!, Saturday, 3 January 2009 02:02 (sixteen years ago)

"The Wedding Singer" came out about ten years ago so we're due for similar movies that are all about LOLing the 1990s.

And we're only a few years away from countless grunge and "alternative" bands that were never that great to begin with being anointed as "classic." Pearl Jam should break up now and pretend they haven't been even trying for the last ten years.

And decades can sometimes be defined by their closing. I mean the "sixties" didn't really start until about 66-67, in terms of social change. I remember reading an astounding statistic that said that the number of Americas who thought pre-marital sex was immoral went from about 70% to 36% between 1966 and 1972-73, and it wasn't just young people whose mind was changed on the subject but older folk as well. That just amazes me.

― Cunga, Saturday, 3 January 2009 02:06 (sixteen years ago)

66-67, in terms of social change.

Huh? What about civil rights?

― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 3 January 2009 02:15 (sixteen years ago)

I think he meant "hippies" of the late 60s, to the kids who wore collared shirts and sweaters to Rolling Stones concerts in like ... 64-65.

― burt_stanton, Saturday, 3 January 2009 03:32 (sixteen years ago)

all of this boils down to people lazily categorizing music by decades. it's a pretty dismissive trend, and it leads to much confusion and innacuracy for the generations to follow

― psychgawsple, Saturday, 3 January 2009 03:58 (sixteen years ago)

At first, I thought this title was the most massive challops ever on ILM.

― ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( (libcrypt), Saturday, 3 January 2009 04:13 (sixteen years ago)

yeah its kind of a head fuck

― HOOSytime steenman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 3 January 2009 04:14 (sixteen years ago)

thoughtful moments accompanied by the yamaha dx7 rhodes piano sound

― burt_stanton, Saturday, 3 January 2009 04:33 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.synthmania.com/Yamaha%20DX7/Audio/INT/INT1120E.PIANO201.mp3 think about something that's upset you today. why did it upset you?

― burt_stanton, Saturday, 3 January 2009 04:40 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.synthmania.com/Yamaha%20DX7/Audio/INT/INT11%20E.PIANO%201.mp3

― burt_stanton, Saturday, 3 January 2009 04:42 (sixteen years ago)

Haha, nice one, Burt.

― With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 3 January 2009 11:53 (sixteen years ago)

haha, i look forward to the reissue of those Greta and Dig records and the attendant hipster swooning over same :-)

― Mad Vigorish (Eisbaer), Saturday, 3 January 2009 12:00 (sixteen years ago)

I like the SH-2 a lot more

Apparently, every single sound in this demo was generated by an SH-2. Color me impressed.

― Former Golden Boy, Saturday, 3 January 2009 17:22 (sixteen years ago)

it is a basic piece but it has the sound, doesn't it?

― Shh! It's NOT Me!, Saturday, 3 January 2009 23:33 (sixteen years ago)

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