Great sample - strangely poor originals

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It's sort of the nature of sampling that the segment taken is the best bit of the original track, but which quality drop from sampler to samplee has struck you the most?

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 9 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

funky drummer

gareth, Tuesday, 9 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't really have an answer. This was brought about by finally getting my hands on MC5's Kick Out The Jams. The "right now, right now..." bit is pretty good, but everything they were trying to do with just guitars, the KLF did for proper 22 years later.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 9 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't do better than that. "Funky Drummer" is pretty weak by JB standards.

Mark, Tuesday, 9 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Curse my human fingers! I was going to make Funky Drummer my last example, but I've been soundly beaten to it.

Obviously, since this relates to your opinion of the sample, your opinion of the original, and whether you knew the one when you heard the other, this is the most subjective question EVAH.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 9 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dido.

Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 9 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Once You Understand" becoming "Mr. Kirk's Nightmare"

Ian, Tuesday, 9 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the Gunter Kallman Choir's Daydream thing would have been oh sooo much better if it had this really sleezy robot voice making all kinds of libido-led mutterings over the top of it.

Wyndham Earl, Tuesday, 9 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Seals and Crofts - "Sweet Green Fields", which became Busta Rhymes's "Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Could See"

bc, Tuesday, 9 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've always quite liked Funky Drummer, especially the 7 minute version.

How about NRG's 'I Need Your Loving' which sampled The Korgis, and was covered by Baby D later? Although it's a bit of a cheese-merchant song, I really like it. A bit like that one which sampled Chicago? later on: 'Hold me Now

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 9 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Chicago "Hard To Say I'm Sorry"

Although in both these cases, the samples worked really well in the somg, although you knew that the cheesy sentimentality in the context of the original records would be awful, less a case of 'Great Smaple' as 'Bad sample used greatly' If you see what I mea

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 9 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've always thought that the dope intro to Ronnie Laws 'Tidal Wave' (Black Moon - Who Got Da Props?) turned into an especially weak cut.

If you look at this question from a hip-hop perspective, TONS of sampled songs have this quality, especially all the beats coming off the rawk records. I just dug out Kid Dynamite (PRT - Shakiyla and Just Ice - Goin' way back, among others) and while I can't say that it's horrible, certainly most would own the record for beat collecting purposes rather than listening enjoyment. Similarly the hiphoppers would only own Thin Lizzy - Johnny The Fox for the break. Or maybe Billy Squier - Big Beat

Ron, Tuesday, 9 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Bucketheads' "The Bomb" (y'know, 'street sounds swirlin' through my mi-e-i-e-ind') is way better than Chicago's "Street Player" (uh, also 'street sounds swirlin'...)

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"california love" by marleena shaw used on brainfreeze.

chaki, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it's 'california soul' you retard and the original record is so much better than check the technique which i suppose is what you think is 'better'.

ethan, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

shut up. it sucks and at least i got the artist right you dickvictim.

chaki, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

re: Hard to say i'm sorry

the cumbernauld hh version is by DJ Kaos i think.

agreed about i need your lovin'. nrg version is great, baby d's is not good, marc et claudes is worse still

gareth, Wednesday, 10 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)


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