The Cravats, The Very Things, DCL Locomotive C/D?

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Recently picked up The Cravats double retrospective "Land of the Giants: the best of the jazz-punk colossals". I had a lot of their stuff on vinyl, but haven't dragged it out for years. It all sounds as at least as good as I remembered it. Great songs, and the production is like Joe Meek in the Twilight Zone. No-one very much like them then or now. A British Pere Ubu would be the nearest reference point, but it's not that close. The core of the group went on to become The Very Things and there were a number of side projects, all pretty great. Thoughts, recollections, faves?

I need to track down the second and third CDs by The Very Things, recordings which seemed to hang around unreleased for ages. There was talk of a 3-D video for their cover of Nervous Norvous' "Transfusion", which I'd love to see

Soukesian, Saturday, 3 March 2007 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Classic!!! I was raving about Land Of The giants on last year's reissue thread. DCL Locomotive EP might be my favorite thought. I'll write more later, gotta run!

sleeve, Saturday, 3 March 2007 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

I love the Cravats but only have most of their stuff on mp3 although I do have a couple of the Small Wonder 7"s. Been meaning to get that retrospective. Don't know anything about the Very Things or DCL Locomotive - what do they sound like? Similar to the Cravats?

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 3 March 2007 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

Main difference is that they don't have Svoor Naan's sax upfront. Any space is filled with twangy guitar and soundtrack samples.

The Very Things "Bushes Scream" LP is an absolute masterpiece of garage psych. If you like the Cravats at all, you need this. I posted a shorter cut of this video on the rolling garage thread a few days back, but the full version has now surfaced. (Let's see if I've figured out this formatting business!)

The Very Things - Bushes Scream

DCL Locomotive are best remembered for their stunning work out on "King Midas in Reverse"

Soukesian, Sunday, 4 March 2007 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

DCL Locomotive

Soukesian, Sunday, 4 March 2007 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

OK. I'm back... yes, the Very Things are much more psych-oriented than the Cravats, thick layers of slowly warping guitars instead of punky blasts with sax. Longer songs, too. I have a great live boot of the Very Things where The Shend intones portentiously, "people are leaving... but we are not afraid! we will carry on!"

Their Dada Cravat Laboratories flexi discs are great as well, crazed cutup manifestoes. Sadly, these did not get reissued on the 2CD comp which seems to have been rather poorly compiled and is not complete even though there was room on the damn discs. Still it beats paying $20 on eBay for "The End" 7" like I did before this came out - now I am glad because a great track from that single got left off.

Mutantsounds, Shards Of Beauty, Thing On The Doorstep, Phoenix Hairpins, and Saltyka's Music Site have posted everything discussed here iirc, including the Babymen record (another name for the band).

DCL Locomotive only put out one EP but it has their very Cravats-sounding cover of The Hollies tune on it and is really great.

sleeve, Sunday, 4 March 2007 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

You paid $20 for The End 7"? Ouch. I got it a year or so ago for £3.19 including shipping, also on Ebay! It pays to wait sometimes.

I hate when they do these anthologies and leave off songs despite having the space to reissue everything! Makes me not want to buy them and just seek out the originals. [/completist]

Colonel Poo, Monday, 5 March 2007 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

yeah I don't know what the psychology was that caused them to leave off a few songs from In Toytown and from the singles. I guess the CD is still a good resource for somebody who says "well I've heard of this band and want to check them out". More like a greatest hits than an anthology, but it could have been a completist's dream so easily...

And I highly recommend both the Very Things regular studio LP (The Bushes Scream, I did find that for a dollar so I guess it all evens out) and the CD following it about having a laugh or whatever because that includes their first excellent single, "The Gong Man". The third one is live, iirc.

sleeve, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

The In Toytown LP does tend to go for quite a lot on Ebay so that sucks that it's not all on the CD, if it had all the album tracks I'd definitely pick it up and then hunt down the missing singles as they can be found for reasonable prices (I've seen most of them sell for around the £3-7 mark). Oh well.

Colonel Poo, Monday, 5 March 2007 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

five years pass...

Aw bless

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Neil S, Monday, 12 November 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

thirteen years pass...

just seen this https://rotatorvinyl.bandcamp.com/album/the-cravats-the-small-wonder-years-pt-1-singles

I have all the singles but there's an unreleased EP on this: I Stand Before You / Still / Ceasing To Be - Still & Ceasing To Be were on In Toytown but I'm guessing presumably these are different versions? I Stand Before You was released on "Conducted Experiments In Sound Volume One 1978 - 1983 (Unreleased Audio Data)" which was on Bandcamp for 1 day in 2020, which I missed

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 19 November 2025 21:48 (three months ago)


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