s/d: african psych

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I've got the Love Peace & Poetry comp, but it's mostly British colonist dudes imitating Sgt. Pepper. The liners recommend a few recs to search for the non-SA cats (Blo's Chapter One, Ofege's [i]Try An Love [i]), but I wondered if the hivemind might have some suggestions.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:35 (eighteen years ago)

if there is any I wanna hear it!

Ofo the Black Company's "Allah Wakbar" on the Funky Lagos comp is pretty psych (albeit more Funkadelic than the Beatles)

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:41 (eighteen years ago)

fwiw, a quick eBay search turned up a different Blo record.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 00:12 (eighteen years ago)

blo has like 3 good songs from what i remember (but that was years ago and i didn't like disco then, so i dunno how they'd stand up today).

osibisa are african dudes workin out of england making afro-funk rock type stuff. similar to cymande.

i always thought oneness of juju were african, but they were just very afrocentric and actually started in SF?!

jaxon, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 00:21 (eighteen years ago)

does Morocco count? because Aisha Kandisha's Jarring Effects is pretty fucking amazing. weirdo fuzz and delay and sampling. only get their first album though. the later laswell produced stuff is balls.

jaxon, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 00:23 (eighteen years ago)

King Sunny Ade - The Classic Years has a lot of crazy, psyched-out juju with heavy reverb and delay and such.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 00:51 (eighteen years ago)

I borrowed Niger: Magic and Ecstasy off a friend, haven't watched it yet. Is it any good anyone??

Drooone, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 00:53 (eighteen years ago)

Frankly most African music sounds pretty psychedelic to my ears.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 00:53 (eighteen years ago)

Astral Daze - Psychedelic South African Rock 1968-1972

Mr. Hal Jam, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 01:06 (eighteen years ago)

Obv. there's that Love is a Real Thing comp from, uh, 2005?

I think pretty much any highlife, juju, afrobeat, etc. from the 70s will have some psych-ish elements just on account of what effects were trendy at the time.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 01:11 (eighteen years ago)

and obviously Konono No1 are pretty fucking psychedelic

jaxon, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 02:48 (eighteen years ago)

look into the hi-life.

the table is the table, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 03:00 (eighteen years ago)

try to find the track 'Funky Hi-Life' by CK Mann. real groovy psychy sound, from ghana.

the table is the table, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 03:03 (eighteen years ago)

i'll start diggin, dudes. thanks!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 03:49 (eighteen years ago)

Side note: since that Love is a Real Thing comp I've been wondering if there actually was much of a psych movement in any African countries - like were there groups of musicians actually experimenting with psych drugs and its effects on their music? Obviously Nigeria, Ghana, Kenya etc. were in very different places culturally and politically from the U.S. in the 60s and 70s, and a lot of the African pop music coming out at the time was being influenced by nationalism and Pan-Africanism. Did psych fit into all this somehow or are we just describing the aesthetics?

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 03:56 (eighteen years ago)

i'd say the aesthetics, but palm wine is crazy shit. that and the reefer in ghana back then was apparently wild.

the table is the table, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 03:58 (eighteen years ago)

it's been a minute since i've lisetened to it, but there's an album called Psycho on da Bus by Doctor L featuring Tony Allen that's afro funk and a In a Silent Way era miles and i'm sure some psych elements.

also, John Hughes jr put out an album on his Hefty Label with a bunch of post rock heads called Slicker that's pretty afro inspired if i remember correctly (also been a long time)

jaxon, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 04:03 (eighteen years ago)

I get the impression from the Love is a Real Thing liners that there was something of a "psychedelics" (v. 'psych') scene in West Africa at least, viz:

"All the essential ingredients existed in abundance in the burgeoning metropolitan capitals of West Africa: centuries of psychotropic experience, the strongest source music on the planet, decades of adapting western pop to local tastes and an affinity with anti-imperialist ideology. Add to this heady brew a cultural philosophy which actively promoted music, a relaxed attitude to sex and the day-glo visual imagery of daily life, almost guaranteed that West Africans would embrace funk, soul and acid rock as something familiar if not entirely home-grown."

But then they DO stop short of saying that musicians were experimenting with psych drugs.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 04:08 (eighteen years ago)

I really dug the WITCH LP that Shadoks reissued last year. really awesome stuff.

ian, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 06:15 (eighteen years ago)

Definitely check out the new LP on Sublime Frequencies by Group Doueh. Will blow your mind into little bits.

Also, there is a lot of stuff to explore here: http://africanserenades.co.nr/

I know this is on the Love's a Real Thing comp but TP Orchestre Poly-Rythmo - the Kings of Benin Urban Groove, 1972-1980, is probably my favorite of this type of stuff.

mcddcm, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

mutant-sounds blog and prognotfrog blog has been putting up some african psych in the recent past. That 'the Peace - Black Power' rekkid is the shit.

BlackIronPrison, Thursday, 15 March 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

Awesome, thanks dude.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 15 March 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/images/B00142Q7WI/ref=dp_image_0/202-3522128-2446259?ie=UTF8&n=229816&s=music

AMAAAAZING

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 3 May 2008 01:26 (seventeen years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51lHEwnXUxL._SS400_.jpg

amaaaaaaazing?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 3 May 2008 01:27 (seventeen years ago)

amaaaaaaaaazing!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 3 May 2008 01:27 (seventeen years ago)

hint it is on the internets if u look

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 3 May 2008 01:31 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.emusic.com/img/album/111/780/11178061_155_155.jpeg

Not sure if you'd necessarily call these songs psych, but man are they good

scott seward, Saturday, 3 May 2008 12:49 (seventeen years ago)

That was me. I especially recommend The Funkees.

Maria :D, Saturday, 3 May 2008 12:50 (seventeen years ago)

ok, so i have a crappy mp3 of the funkees doing a cover of atomic rooster's "breakthrough" - anyone know if that's been compiled anywhere? a friend of mine sent the mp3 to me, it's lo-fi and i think taken from an ebay auction...

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 3 May 2008 13:07 (seventeen years ago)

http://progressive.homestead.com/Africa4.html

rizzx, Saturday, 3 May 2008 14:35 (seventeen years ago)

This psychedelic africans blog is the most amazing and the greatest:

http://www.voodoofunk.blogspot.com/

blibdoolpoolp, Sunday, 4 May 2008 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

Lately I've been liking Green Arrows, Bembeya Jazz, 22 Band

Hurting 2, Sunday, 4 May 2008 00:52 (seventeen years ago)

That Voodoo Funk blog looks great. It also looks like it's been abandoned as of now (the author's last post says he's going back to NYC and implies that he's not going to post new content anymore).

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 May 2008 00:58 (seventeen years ago)

Chief Commander Ebenezer Obey - Juju Jubilee is pretty psych

Hurting 2, Sunday, 4 May 2008 01:02 (seventeen years ago)

Not sure if it qualifies, but this Orlando Julius & His Modern Aces disc has a song called Psychadelic Afro Shop, and it's supposedly a dynamite album.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 4 May 2008 01:05 (seventeen years ago)

I've got that Julius 2CD set. The second disc is great, but the first disc is more conventional R&B style, almost in the vein of say Hank Ballard & the Midnighters (not like that's a bad thing - I love Hank Ballard - but it's not psychedelic or funky in the way the rest of the stuff on this thread is).

unperson, Sunday, 4 May 2008 03:11 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

new soundway comp THE WORLD ENDS: AFRO ROCK & PSYCHEDELIA IN 1970S NIGERIA is pretty damn hotttttttttttttt. double cd set. triple vinyl.

scott seward, Monday, 28 June 2010 22:38 (fifteen years ago)

These discs kick much booty.:

AMANAZ Africa (Q.D.K. / Normal) cd 16.98
The lo-fi, garagey, psychedelic "Zam Rock" scene that flourished in the southern African nation of Zambia during the mid '70s is now getting some long overdue exposure and appreciation over here, thanks to a bunch of recent reissues: Chrissy Zebby Tembo, Ngozi Family, Witch (highlighted last list) and now, also the lesser known but no less amazing Amanaz! Like Witch its reissue was facilitated by Egon of Stones Throw, who also wrote the liner notes, which make us realize how lucky we are to have these reissues, 'cause the original Zambian LPs are super rare and, Egon says, usually in about the same poor condition as an experienced frisbee. He also helps explain the genesis of the Zam Rock movement, suggesting that Zambia's Socialist government required a preponderance of "Zambian" content on the radio. Apparently the gov't also mandated a high fuzz content as well!
The Amanaz album, from 1975, certainly fulfills that quota, though at first listen we thought that maybe this one was mellower than some of the others like Witch, and parts if it are, in a stoned sorta way, and it's also somewhat more "African" sounding as befits its title, in its rhythms and vocal stylings, with some of the singing doing in the Bembe tongue, though most songs are in English. But still there's quite a supply of heavy fuzz here, with the likes of "History Of Man" being plenty brutal in that dep't. for sure!
And man is it beautiful, full of lovely, lovely grooves in a warm bath of lo-fi hiss and hum, maybe not as gritty as Witch and Ngozi but still gritty enough, and maybe even more memorably groov'd. There's fully a dozen songs here and it's hard to pick highlights, we dig 'em all, somehow so fuzzy yet so gentle, well, not always gentle, like how the otherwise laidback "Nsunka Lwendo" includes a phenomenally LOUD and PIERCING guitar solo, that wanders back and forth from left channel to the right channel, looking for a way to crack into your skull. Meanwhile the sizzling, syncopated "Green Apple" throbs with what almost sounds like a buried Geezer Butler bass line, and the exuberant "Making The Scene" features a part that we swear appears on a Witchcraft album, or close to anyway! Wow. More proof Zam Rock RULES. Recommended

SUCK Time To Suck (Shadoks Music) cd 17.98
The main problem with unearthed supposed 'proto-metal' rarities or 'holy grail' psychedelic artifacts, is that after hearing for years and years how amazing and heavy and fuzzed out they are, often when we finally get to hear them, they so often sound a lot more like ordinary bar rock, or blues rock, the hype far exceeding the sound.
No such problem with South African heavies Suck. This, their only record has been circulating for years as a bootleg, and the first time we saw it, we knew it had to be good. The cover was a cool black and white photo of a little long haired hippy kid sitting in the grass next to a kick drum, the band was called Suck (rumored to have almost been called FUCK), and the record was called Time To Suck, they covered Sabbath and King Crimson and Deep Purple, they're from South Africa and the record originally came out in 1970. It HAD to be good. But we were cautious, we had most definitely been burned before, but thankfully there was no need for caution cuz holy shit is this stuff amazing. Hard and heavy, super rocking, wildly psychedelic, the fact that if you weren't familiar with the covers here you'd be hard pressed to pick out the one original says a lot about these guys.
Apparently Suck were infamous in South Africa for raucous, sometimes violent, always chaotic live shows, they were only a band for 8 months, and in that time only ever recorded ONE original track, and released one proper album, Time To Suck.
Two Grand Funk Railroad tunes, "Aimless Lady" and "Sin's A Good Man's Brother", King Crimson's "21st Century Schizoid Man", "Season Of The Witch" by Donovan, Free's "I'll Be Creeping", Deep Purple's "Into The Fire", "Elegy" by Colosseum and finally Black Sabbath's "War Pigs". That's a serious selection of songs. Then there's the one original, "The Whip", a killer chunk of Zeppeliny slither and Sabbathy crunch, some wildly proggy arrangements, frenzied guitar leads, incredible drumming, and lead vocalist Andrew Ionnides' Robert Plant like wail. A churning heavy metallic rock jam that sounds right at home amongst all those better known tunes.
Their version of "21st Century Schizoid Man" is fierce and super distorted and as heavy if not more so than the original. "Season Of The Witch" burns slowly, peppered with cool fluttering flutes and all sorts of subtle guitar filigree, and of course "War Pigs", that takes balls to tackle that one, especially in 1970, but these guys definitely make it their own, staying pretty true to the original, minus an even more blown out intro, and the addition of some weird percussive string plucks or maybe bongos, way up in the mix, but makes it even more dizzyingly psychedelic, and if anything, their version as a whole is just a bit more chaotic and off kilter, an definitely faster, more like the German TV version of the Sabs you can find on YouTube.
Needless to say, this is an essential proto-metal document, one that is actually pretty metal, fuzzed out, super heavy, intensely rocking, psychedelic and druggy, plenty proggy, and well, the song selection can't be beat!

ImprovSpirit, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

bumping this newly-discovered thread because i love it.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 June 2010 09:27 (fifteen years ago)

sorry, newly-rediscovered thread.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 June 2010 10:50 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.website.com/aliens-1.jpeg

ImprovSpirit, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

well, doesn't look like that worked...

ImprovSpirit, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

So, yeah. Just go to the Voodoo Funk blog mentioned upthread & get a severe load of the "Psychedelic Alliens" rekkid cover complete with a Vox bass & a band member rolling on the floor.

ImprovSpirit, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

i love looking at the album covers on that blog. a lot of those songs wind up on the great reissue labels, e.g., soundways. as great as those labels are, i wish soundways would use the old discs' covers.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

"Blacky Joe" on that new Soundways comp is completely awesome and unlike anything I've yet heard.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

seven months pass...

I've got the Love Peace & Poetry comp, but it's mostly British colonist dudes imitating Sgt. Pepper. The liners recommend a few recs to search for the non-SA cats (Blo's Chapter One, Ofege's Try An Love , but I wondered if the hivemind might have some suggestions.


interesting thing about those 2 records is that it's the same guitarist.
Mised it the first time I read ther Ofege linernotes but once the teenage band Ofege had recorded the producer brought in the Blo! guy Berkely "Ike" Jones to scrawl guitar over the top of it.
Both groups' lps were reissued on cd last year. Blo as a 2fer cd Chapters & Phases.
Both are recommended

Stevolende, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 22:54 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

what I've heard of that Amanaz is really interesting. I've heard that the CD has pretty decent sound so can you finally hear the fuzz guitar properly or is there still a major gap between what you can hear on headphones & through the air?
I just read somebody somewhere complaining about that and I think they were talking about an earlier version.
Think cd is now done through contact with lead singer at least so, does that mean access to something along the lines of master tapes?

What else is currently thought of as essential?
& does the Question Mark lp hold up? heard 2 tracks from it on youtube and I wasn't immediately impressed.

Stevolende, Friday, 1 June 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-uratquEIE

^ absolutely epic spaced-out psych groove from King Sunny Ade

You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)

one month passes...

2012 version of Orchestre Poly-Rythmo (minus 3 deceased originals) touring the US now.

curmudgeon, Monday, 16 July 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)

Got the Amanaz cd last week and think its pretty great. Interested by the overlap in sound with the Velvets of s/t & Loaded. Assuming it is just coincidence cos I'd be surprised if people in Zam had heard of the VU but there are a number of points that sound uncannily similar.

Also love the Hedzoleh lp and the Edzayawa set

wish there was a full set of Ofo & the Black co was very surprised by that on first hearing cos it verges on heavy space rock.

Kings of HIstory by Shirati Jazz is worth hearing too. Nice percussive guitar in abundance.

Stevolende, Monday, 16 July 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

I'd be surprised if people in Zam had heard of the VU but there are a number of points that sound uncannily similar.

Maybe its the other way around and VU got tapes of them!

curmudgeon, Monday, 16 July 2012 19:37 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, handy time machine too, I think the Africa lp comes from '75. Like 6 years after the fact.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 10:00 (thirteen years ago)

ha

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)


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