The finest products of the DC rock scene: What will be remembered/treasured?

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I know someone did a Dischord S/D, but I think this is a broader and more comprehensive question. Please, those with a say, inform, assist, enlighten.

yoshinorimike, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:23 (eighteen years ago)

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=13:BPWASHINGTON,|DC

artdamages, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:30 (eighteen years ago)

mabye I should clarify before I glibed out of existence by irratable ILMers: Finest products of the scene = ALBUMS that will be remembered, the cream of the crop PO5, whatever.

yoshinorimike, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:36 (eighteen years ago)

I'm really not well acquainted with the scene and the distinctive sound, but I'd guess people'd put Emergency and I and something with MacKaye on or around it? See, I really am ignorant.

yoshinorimike, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:46 (eighteen years ago)

its hard to pick just 5 pietasters albums

artdamages, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 05:49 (eighteen years ago)

lungfish count or no?

ian, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 06:15 (eighteen years ago)

i treasure: minor threat, unrest (supposing they count) and that band whose name is 4 numbers that i am forgetting offhand. oh and void.

thats all i can think of that i treasure, but i haven't heard everything.

artdamages, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 06:30 (eighteen years ago)

Plz to bury dismemberment plan.


Ian upthread gave me a Void pin this weekend!

JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 06:46 (eighteen years ago)

ive always kinda liked them, but last time i put one of their albums on it sounded icky and i needed a palate cleanser of SABBATH.

artdamages, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 06:57 (eighteen years ago)

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php?msgid=6611761&showextras=true

NYCNative, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 07:03 (eighteen years ago)

yes! "Babies"! thats my shit. i never was able to find all their stuff.

artdamages, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 07:08 (eighteen years ago)

The band whose name is all numbers is 9353.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 10:16 (eighteen years ago)

I think the finest product of the DC rock scene is the Banned In DC photo book. Such great stories and anecdotes. Oh yeah, and pictures.

POV:
Fugazi
go-go music, Trouble Funk, etc.
that golden 1981-83 DC hardcore moment and everything released in it.
Void
Unrest

I probably listen to Unrest the most.

sleeve, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 10:32 (eighteen years ago)

It's never too much to say how much I love Unrest's "Cath Carroll". It's one of those tracks that I cannot hear while driving, because of the furious headbanging and driving-wheel drumming it induces...

JP Almeida, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 10:59 (eighteen years ago)

lungfish count or no?

ian on Tuesday, 6 March 2007 06:15 (7 hours ago)

oh c'mon, you have to pick practically the only Dischord act that isn't from D.C. or any of its burbs? let Baltimore have their one Dischord band.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/t/troublefunk_dropthebo_101b.jpg

m coleman, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

http://homepages.nyu.edu/~alr237/badbrains_paytocum.jpg

m coleman, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

Link Wray

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:19 (eighteen years ago)

"CAPITOL ROCK is a comprehensive cultural history of Washington, D.C. rock and roll. Focusing on the first twenty-five years (1951-1976) of rock music in the nation's capital, author Mark Opsasnick skillfully combines overviews of the flourishing nightclub and teen club scenes of the fifties, sixties, and seventies with detailed coverage of local bands and musicians including such greats as the Cherry People, the Fallen Angels, Roy Buchanan, Jack Casady, Roy Clark, Danny Gatton, Nils Lofgren, Punky Meadows, and Link Wray. A unique and fascinating study, CAPITOL ROCK is certain to captivate any fan of rock and roll music." Mark Opsasnick's book Capitolrock.com

Also Razz

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

Half Japanese (although they're really from somewhere in Maryland--most of 'em at least)

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/amg/pop_albums/1/2/e/d12359dkeet.jpg

m coleman, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

The bands of my youth:

Shudder to Think
Jawbox
Nation of Ulysses
Rites of Spring (the one I never saw live)
and so, so many more.

Also to be remembered: Free summer concerts in Fort Reno Park... some of the best shows I ever saw in my life, and most fun times I can remember, were at those shows.

Also search: Cool 'Disco' Dan, Luke Sissyfag, Burrito Brothers, Betapunks, Biograph Theater.

Also, Trans Am, née Fly. Ted Leo's years in D.C. with Chisel! Q and Not U (because it was cool to see them as high school kids in bands like Corm loving the Dischord stuff and growing up to make their mark in that world). Tons of Go-Go bands lost to time, like Pleasure. WPGC, WHFS. And lots of other stuff.

Ben Boyerrr, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

THE SUSPECTS.

adam, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

Rites of Spring and the short-lived Happy Go Licky were great live.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

You got to see Rites of Spring, curmudgeon? I think they would be my #1 band to see live, ever.

Ben Boyerrr, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

pre-Dischord punk/new wave era D.C. band roll call: Urban Verbs, The Slickee Boys, Tiny Desk Unit

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

Yea, I saw Rites of Spring. Me and a pal put out a fanzine called Thrillseeker between 82 and 84, and I saw lots of DC bands between 79 and 83, and on and off since then.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, jealous... I was more in the 1989-1994 era of seeing bands in D.C. (being 31). I think you win!

Ben Boyerrr, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

oh yeah i forgot bads brains, duh!

i am a total unrest superfan. i have heard everything, but twister and i am planning on buying the CD-R reissue and the Imperial FFRR as soon as I get some cash (i've been waiting like a year to get some cash...)

artdamages, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

(i have imperial ffr, but not the new version. is there any liner notes?)

artdamages, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

Drop The Bomb more than anything. Not a huge hardcore fan, but Bad Brains and Minor Threat were both excellent, as far as HC goes. (Always curious about Faith/Void.)

And I have an affinity for those first coupla albums by Angel (for which I have the insane Martin Popoff to blame/thank.)

Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

Jawbox, Fugazi, Juno, Dismemberment Plan, Q And Not U.

Simon H., Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

"Half Japanese (although they're really from somewhere in Maryland--most of 'em at least)

curmudgeon on Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:24 (5 hours ago)"

they're actually from Uniontown, which is in northern Maryland a couple of miles from where i live. David Fair works at my public library reading stories to children and whatnot. i thought that was curiously appropriate. i've been meaning to stop by and shake his hand or something.

circa1916, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

Fake Accents

I DIED, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

Unrest and Nation of Ulysses forever

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

Juno = SEATTLE

David R., Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.audiolunchbox.com/images/albums/46k/46051-100.jpg

daria-g, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

Bad Brains towers over everything else, but I remember Blast Off Country Style, Tuscadero and The Make Up being pretty big. Go! Records and the Galaxy Hut seemed like important aspects of it, but I grew up in Arlington so maybe that's not accurate for the whole region.

The Go Go groups are part of a very different scene that isn't rock at all.

Chris H., Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

(i have imperial ffr, but not the new version. is there any liner notes?)

Sadly, no. The extra tracks aren't mind-blowing or anything, but they are interesting to hear. They did a really nice job with the remaster though.

They should consider reissuing the Cath Carroll remix ep which has these two really great longer tracks, "Vibe Out" and a 30 minute long track the name of which escapes me and I'm too lazy to go pull the record out.

I pulled out the first Tsunami album a couple of weeks ago and it has some nice songs on it.

I have never heard Void.

William Selman, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:47 (eighteen years ago)

[i]a 30 minute long track the name of which escapes me[/i[

HYDRO!!!

sleeve, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 04:54 (eighteen years ago)

HYDRO!!!
Yeah, that's it! It sounds like an homage to NEU!, but also only like they could have done it.

Why there aren't contemporary Unrest-inspired bands baffles me. Am I missing someone?

William Selman, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 13:53 (eighteen years ago)

i don't know. itd be hard to notice an unrest influenced band cuz they had so many facets and at least 2 or 3 distinct eras. i love the speed rush thing and i don't know of anyone after them aping that aspect of their sound (obv there were tons of precursors). everyone that talks about pavement or sebadoh or whoever never mentions unrest and i'm sure whatever anglophile indie band of the moment does know who they are either. meanwhile mark robinson keeps making pretty cool nu-post-punk!

artdamages, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

The Go Go groups are part of a very different scene that isn't rock at all.

I have seen Fugazi, Q and Not U, and Dismemberment Plan ALL play shows with Go-Go bands, and several of the more unorthodox venues overlap quite a bit.

Ben Boyerrr, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

The Dismemberment Plan, Fugazi, Shudder To Think, Minnor Threat, Q And Not U, Jawbox.

Oh wait, this is about the same list as Simon H. already posted.

Marty Innerlogic, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

I have seen Fugazi, Q and Not U, and Dismemberment Plan ALL play shows with Go-Go bands, and several of the more unorthodox venues overlap quite a bit.


Yeah yeah yeah. But they don't have much in common, except being in the same place at the same time. And the Infinite Zero record label.

Chris H., Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

MONORCHID MONORCHID MONORCHID MONORCHID MONORCHID MONORCHID MONORCHID MONORCHID MONORCHID MONORCHID!!

also:

slant 6 -- soda pop rip-off
hoover -- lurid traversal
crownhate ruin -- don't really remember the album (did they have one?), but their 7"s ruled

and seconded:

unrest (perfect teeth = perfect album. in high school my friend had a perfect teeth promo comb. and i was jealous.)

consigned to dustbin:

most of the rest of the teenbeat catalogue

np, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

Gray Matter were one of my favorite Dischord bands back in the day. Take It Back ranks up there with the Rites of Spring as a classic from the scene. And Rites of Spring were weird live, all those flowers, but still really great.
And Kingface's first record was cool too, totally out of step with what was happening at the time.

Angsty, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)


unrest (perfect teeth = perfect album. in high school my friend had a perfect teeth promo comb. and i was jealous.)

Haha. I have that comb. They handed them out at in-stores.

William Selman, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

Circus Lupus, the Warmers (the Warmers are probably my favorite Dischord band!)

Monorchid rules it

daria-g, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 23:57 (eighteen years ago)

oh the warmers!!! i totally forgot about them but i LOVED them back in the day. saw them play maybe 8 times and they were great each and every time. plus amy farina still holds the "best drummer" title for me: some of the most inventive, weird, perfectly off-kilter beats in rock and roll.

man, why on earth did i sell that record? oh right, cos i went broke and sold ALL my records. i'm an idiot.

np, Thursday, 8 March 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

Has Alec MacKaye done anything since the Warmers? I know the bassist, Juan, became an A&R guy - I think he signed Modest Mouse to Epic, if I am not mistaken; and of course he ran the awesome label Slowdime. One of my favorite shows ever was The Warmers, Shudder to Think, and one of the first Foo Fighters shows; at the Black Cat, sometime in 94ish.

Ben Boyerrr, Thursday, 8 March 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

Old guy me still recalls seeing Alec with the Untouchables opening for new wavers Tru Fax & the Insaniacs at Fort Reno in 79 or 80. Alec jumped off the stage and then his pals were trying to prevent him from getting back on stage. Those crazy hardcore kids. I saw Faith a bunch of times. I forget whether Alex has any new music projects.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 8 March 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
the missing thread has been found...

curmudgeon, Monday, 26 March 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

some days i think skull kontrol's "new rock critic" is my favorite song ever

pretzel walrus, Monday, 26 March 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

glad to have it back. i've been listening to 9353 ever since this thread started. the second album is kinda primus-y though and i can't totally get down with it.

artdamages, Monday, 26 March 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

Void FTW

am0n, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 03:36 (eighteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

o wau, I just found The Slickee Boys. Where have you been all my life?

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 09:05 (seventeen years ago)

UNREST!!!!

Pillbox, Sunday, 9 March 2008 10:14 (seventeen years ago)

Pentagram, Dead Meadow, Orthrelm, Spirit Caravan, and El Guapo are the first that come to mind for me.

Nate Carson, Sunday, 9 March 2008 11:28 (seventeen years ago)

The Nurses. Black Market Baby. Shirkers. Tru Fax and the Insanics. Tiny Desk Unit. And, oh yeah, The Nurses.

Michael Train, Sunday, 9 March 2008 17:24 (seventeen years ago)

the obsessed were dc, but pentagram and spirit caravan are maryland

am0n, Sunday, 9 March 2008 17:45 (seventeen years ago)

UNREST!!!!

YES!

mehlt, Sunday, 9 March 2008 17:59 (seventeen years ago)

http://rockondc.blogspot.com/

DC blog into Slickee Boys and other late '70s/'80s dc rock

curmudgeon, Sunday, 9 March 2008 18:31 (seventeen years ago)

The bands I saw more than once and loved a lot are Fugazi, Girls Against Boys (Touch and Go and prior), Circus Lupus, and Nation of Ulysses. Moss Icon could be okay, too. I always liked Shudder To Think live, but the records grated on me.

Anyone else like Soul Side? They headlined the first show I ever saw, "Trigger" era, and I return to that record fondly now and then.

Late Government Issue was nice, as was lots of Dag Nasty and Swiz. Wish I saw those bands...

Usual Channels, Monday, 10 March 2008 17:53 (seventeen years ago)

Black Eyes first album and live shows. Most kick-ass song: "deformative"

nicky lo-fi, Monday, 10 March 2008 22:00 (seventeen years ago)

Have I got the right City?

Bad Brains. Surely.
Minor Threat
Void
Rites Of Spring

Weren't Scream from DC ?

Swiz and Moss Icon sounded good later as did Soulside
Tried my best to like Beefeater

Didn't see any of those bands live. Cannot believe I missed the Bad Brains at Dingwalls in my home town of Hull ,England. I was about 15/16 but they played - a couple of my mates friends went.

One of the best DC bands I saw live was indeed Shudder To Think at the Duchess of York in Leeds. They were first on of three for somebody I can't remember.

DC has a lot to answer for!

Fer Ark, Monday, 10 March 2008 22:22 (seventeen years ago)

NO TREND!!

Jack Burton, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 06:10 (seventeen years ago)


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