Is there no thread here dedicated to Death In June?

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I've never seen a thread for Death In June here, and I can't find one now either. I think they should at least get their own thread.

Nada! is a unique masterpiece of gothic rock/dance music and sounds better with each passing year. I don't know if they really did anything to match that but I've heard a few good things off of "But what ends when the symbols shatter". I think the early punk stuff when they were called Crisis is pretty good, too. I don't know why but something keeps drawing me back to Death In June at least once every two years. People think they're Nazis and shit but seriously I don't buy it at all. "Holy Water" off of the Misanthropy compilation is a fantastic track as well.

Bimble, Sunday, 18 March 2007 05:52 (eighteen years ago)

i've always liked DiJ, in spite of Douglas P's 3-note vocal range and his big, stupid, hypocritical mouth. Symbols is their best album; Rose Clouds of Holocaust is nearly as good and i usually prefer it. but most of the time, i just want to hear the silly, overwrought anthems of early DiJ. y'know, the ones with Rose McDowell chiming in on harmonies and all the gothic agonising about knives blooded by the throat of love and the fallow fields of Europa. not an everyday listen, but Ostenbraun, the ambient collaboration with Les Joyaux de la Princesse, is also really nice.

have no use for DiJ after RCOH, when Mr. P. just seemed to become a whiny rebel without a cause, a contract, or a clue.

Mr. Hal Jam, Sunday, 18 March 2007 06:31 (eighteen years ago)

my favorite is the guilty have no pride which combines the punky, crisis style stuff with the beginnings of the folky weirdness. "heaven street" is urgent, key, you know. i do like a little bit of everything he did up until around 1990, and it gets spotty after that (though i still haven't heard "rose clouds"). or maybe it gets too consistent and not spotty enough.

first time i heard the kapo! album i liked it much more than anything i had heard by DIJ. i still dig it today.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Sunday, 18 March 2007 07:40 (eighteen years ago)

The only thing I ever knew by them was "To Drown a Rose", the song they did with the girl from Strawberry Switchblade. I liked it a lot. I didn't know they had dodgy fascist leanings til recently.

Trayce, Sunday, 18 March 2007 10:02 (eighteen years ago)

I found a version of "To Drown A Rose" that was just him singing by himself, live, with an acoustic guitar. It was on an EP called "Cathedral of Tears" anyway, I couldn't stop playing that version over and over.

I was into Sixth Comm as a teenager, but upon playing them now, they don't do much for me at all.

And yeah "Heaven Street" is way classic, even though that early stuff doesn't quite have the consistent overall quality of Nada!.

Bimble, Sunday, 18 March 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

I'd love to hear a Sarah Silverman sketch about Death In June.

dice in my pockets, Sunday, 18 March 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

but that would make her too indie.

dice in my pockets, Sunday, 18 March 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

ˆ joke

dice in my pockets, Sunday, 18 March 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

So, is the Guilty Have No Pride DVD worth owning? I get the impression the audio/visual quality is terrible.

Bimble, Sunday, 18 March 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

The first lp, 'Guilty have no pride' is classis if only for having two versions of "Heaven street" which are both classic. For the mid-80's synth-pop years, the 'Corn years' compilation is also a must have.

I agree that 'Symbols shatter...' might be DiJ's best, 'Rose Clouds' being basically an inferior replica of that album (but it does contain the totally classic "Accidental Protégé").

Like most people, I tuned off after that until recently, when on a whim I checked out 'Operation Hummingbird', which came out two years ago I think. I was pleasantly surprised to hear that Doug P had finally moved on from the apocalyptic folk thing. The new stuff is basically spoken words over treated orchestral loops. Its is very very good.

baaderonixx, Monday, 19 March 2007 10:23 (eighteen years ago)

good lord those cds sell for a ton on amazon.

akm, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:53 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...
i seem to recall a number of DIJ-related threads before ILX went down. i think most people are drawn to this band because their music purports to have some sort of totemic significance; unfortunately, the music holds little long-term interest for me. i like most of nada! and but what ends when the symbols shatter? but, for me at least, after a certain level of saturation, DIJ's mythology (essentially the obverse of modernism's utopianism) outstrips the music.

earth mystery, Friday, 4 May 2007 22:52 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, I'll agree with that to a certain extent. But the problem is they're one of those acts I keep coming back to again and again and again. Have you heard their early material?

Bimble, Saturday, 5 May 2007 04:14 (eighteen years ago)

I like some of their music a lot, the early singles and the pagan-tutonic-folk stuff of symbols.

But lets not mince around it, the politics are horrid. I know they say its more complex and the nazi runes are being reclaimed as a beautiful symbol of old europe (or something) but thats just bullshit and not justified by by their actions (Playing benefits for extreme far right politicians in France for instance).

Sandy Blair, Saturday, 5 May 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

i had no clue they had played benefits for far right politicans in France--was it for Le Pen, by any chance? of course, they proudly display the israeli flag as well as the queer flag on their website, but one feels that this is for propriety's sake (though pearce is queer) rather than any heartfelt pc tendency on their part. it's true that i do keep coming back to them, though unfortunately i feel that every time i do it's a rather short-lived dalliance owing more to their spooky (non-)presence than the music itself. c'est un reve is, i feel, a pretty widely acknowledged example of the cheesy lengths they'll go to to cultivate their 'mystique' (although, from what i understand, it's not doug p.'s doing but tony wakeford's). i feel the same way about DIJ as i do about a history channel documentary about stonehenge or, i don't know, the etruscans? an inimation of the depth of human ritual and the History's significant elisions, but never more than an intimation. but let's not get into a bryan ferry-level 'misunderstanding' about it.

earth mystery, Sunday, 6 May 2007 03:31 (eighteen years ago)

bunch of talentless Nazis... No thread for you!

Saxby D. Elder, Sunday, 6 May 2007 03:43 (eighteen years ago)

Well if he's perverted enough to be gay and still be for the Nazis, then...I just have no words. I hardly think he's unaware that Nazis killed gays.

Bimble, Sunday, 6 May 2007 06:01 (eighteen years ago)

you know what? It's still crappy music and that is the important thing.

Saxby D. Elder, Sunday, 6 May 2007 06:02 (eighteen years ago)

the name is supposed to evoke gayness/naziness in equal measure, isn't it? ersnt rohm and the night of the long knives and shit.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Sunday, 6 May 2007 06:55 (eighteen years ago)

No it isn't bloody "all crappy music"...hahahah...you haven't even heard Nada! have you?

Bimble, Sunday, 6 May 2007 07:18 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

I've really been getting into Death in June lately. I definitely prefer the newer "neofolk" acoustic stuff over the older, more electronic stuff... though "Nada!" is a pretty fine album in any case.

As for "politics"... whatever. I'm not convinced that there's really all that much behind all the charges of neo-Nazism or what have you. And even if it is true... who cares? Lots of musicians have stupid politics.

It's all about the MUSIC, MAN....

novaheat, Thursday, 21 June 2007 05:56 (eighteen years ago)

As I already said above, the last two albums are realy worth checking out, esp for people like me who grew bored with the neofolk stuff.

baaderonixx, Thursday, 21 June 2007 08:50 (eighteen years ago)

I picked up "Abandon Tracks!" the other day. Some cool stuff on there, like the track that he contributed to that Der Blutharsch box set.

novaheat, Thursday, 21 June 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

I found this live video of them in France in '91. Ten times better than I would have thought. They did a lot of old songs, too. It feels strange to know that I never would have had the chance to see them ever.

Bimble, Sunday, 23 September 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

I have to say All Pigs Must Die is my favorite. The first 6 tracks get in my head and they don't seem as dark or slow as DiJ's earlier material. The instruments, albeit repetitive, play a lovely song and are more full-fledged than their other stuff.

CaptainLorax, Sunday, 23 September 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

A guilty pleasure of mine. Not the most interesting band in the genre by any means but I’ve always found something compelling about them.

Mr. Goodman, Sunday, 23 September 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

six months pass...

"Europa - The Gates of Heaven" is just insane.
"WE ARE THE LUST THAT COMES FROM NOTHING"

I can't believe a brand new album comes out in early May. I'm not nuts about all his stuff by any means, yet I remain loyal. The DVD I rented with him talking about stuff was cool. I don't remember the name of it. It was from sometime after the year 2000. I'll have to figure that out.

It drove me crazy how normal he looked in that DVD..no tattoos, no big show but just this older guy with glasses...who was about as weird and perverted and strange as you could imagine but deceptively, he looked like a standard, anonymous university professor. Now that is some weirdness in the closet.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 14 April 2008 04:40 (seventeen years ago)

I just listened to Sol Invictus 'Abattoirs of Love' not too long ago.

csa, Monday, 14 April 2008 05:15 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

wow I found a bunch of Sixth Comm CDs in a box that'd been sitting in ly parents garage since '94 - will I find the courage/energy to listen to them? Oh Bimble, where are you now...?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

:-(

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

Is Content With Blood among them? You should listen to it, if so. Excellent début 6Comm album, very reminiscent of Nada!

Just sayin', there is at least one other DIJ/6Comm fan on ILM.

margana (anagram), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 17:03 (fifteen years ago)

second the Content with Blood love. and unless you need umpteen versions of "Neiflheim" in your life, it's prolly all the 6C anyone could ever need.

babytown frolics (Mr. Hal Jam), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 17:37 (fifteen years ago)

I read that as 'Nerfheim'

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

Can I just say that the versions of the songs on the DISCriminate comp are mostly superior to their album equivalents.

15-60-77 (S-), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 02:19 (fifteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

Not much DI6 love on ILM but reviving in any case following announcement of another "farewell" tour of Europe. Have to say, I've lost count of the number of times Mr P. has announced he's not doing any more gigs, only to turn up again somewhere. Not that I'm complaining, I'll be there.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:10 (fourteen years ago)

three years pass...

http://earthfirstjournal.org/newswire/2014/11/14/reportback-fighting-the-trojan-horse-of-hipster-fascism-in-portland/

An interesting account of a protest at a concert.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 01:57 (ten years ago)

two years pass...

Been playing The World That Summer quite a lot lately and what an album it is: tortured gay drama with Morricone arrangements stuffed with baritone guitar, martial trumpets, echoey drum machines and Tibet whispering frighteningly in the background. Shame Dougie Pizzle went off the boil and decided that being musically interesting was below him, but I've got the feeling he could pull it back.

The whole martial industrial field is silly and not a little dubious but I've got a lot of time for Take Care and Control and Heilige! too: that live record is a revelation in the way a lot of material from that period is presented and brings out the Scott Walkerian drama. I find DI6 weirdly fascinating. Where do you think was the point that Douglas went from playing with that imagery to being completely immersed and possessed by it all? Cathedral of Tears (the song) is particularly affecting because it seems to have been written about this all-consuming obsession.

Dan.S., Sunday, 30 July 2017 14:00 (eight years ago)

one year passes...

so is dude a total nazi or what? reminded of this after seeing this:
https://news.artnet.com/exhibitions/boyd-rice-greenspon-show-canceled-1346441

and realizing I'd never actually listened to DIJ (have heard NON though, not my thing). And I quite liked it. And then I wondered if I should.

akm, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 14:09 (seven years ago)

the Earth First Journal link a few posts up is a good overview of the situation, imo

sleeve, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 14:13 (seven years ago)

I love Death in June.

No, Douglas P. isn’t a Nazi but he’s, unquestionably, an idiot. I would say the same about Boyd too. They, from a visual and personal perspective, haven’t moved beyond Crass. It’s embarassing. Especially since Death in June makes mostly enjoyable music.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 14:13 (seven years ago)

one year passes...

I doubt anyone's interested but here is a pretty interesting interview with Doug P looking back on DiJ in the late 80'

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 08:38 (five years ago)

I'm interested. Thanks for posting

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 13:06 (five years ago)

six months pass...

had no idea the Southern Poverty Law Center had actually branded these guys "hate music": https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/03/07/statement-regarding-soleilmoon-recordings-and-death-june

pass the cur's dossier (Neanderthal), Saturday, 29 August 2020 04:57 (five years ago)

Whether he is or not, I'd prefer to avoid the near occasion of it myself and I dont find DIJ compelling enough to bend the rules for. Remember finding them super goth and dark thirty some years ago, but I feel no need to revisit.

I do wish they'd stop cropping up in my discover weeklies and "for you" playlists, think sensibilities should be respected.

Alpha 666, The Number of the Beast (I M Losted), Saturday, 29 August 2020 17:58 (five years ago)

Neofolk is the shittiest music ever created

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 29 August 2020 18:08 (five years ago)

two years pass...

Okay so I hit a record store today and when I do that and browse the used bins, I will take flyers on bands I heard about even when I don't know much about them. The idea is "this is kinda important so I should be exposed to it" sort of thing.

The name Death in June rang a bell and they had some used stuff by them so I picked them up, and now I get home and only after I bought these two albums ("Operation Hummingbird" and "The Corn Years" if that matters) did I realize they ring a bell for all the wrong reasons.

So.... Should I toss them or keep them? Still haven't listened yet but the music isn't the point as I am sure anyone who is more familiar with the band knows.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 3 December 2022 18:58 (two years ago)

can't you like, sell them on discogs and donate the money to some antifa aligned group?

sarahell, Sunday, 4 December 2022 19:02 (two years ago)

They were already second hand, DIJ didn't get any of your money.

StanM, Sunday, 4 December 2022 19:42 (two years ago)

and the store doesn't care or know, I guess, unless they have a whole right wing section

StanM, Sunday, 4 December 2022 19:44 (two years ago)

Fascism Fridays

Take 25% off your favorite far-right wing recordings

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Sunday, 4 December 2022 19:45 (two years ago)

Operation Hummingbird is one of the albums Doug recorded with Albin Julius of Der Blutharsch (RIP). Pretty minor and far from Doug's best IMHO.

The Corn Years is good but it's basically a compilation of tracks culled from The World That Summer and Brown Book. Those are my two favourite DIJ albums so I recommend you investigate them in full.

lord of the rongs (anagram), Sunday, 4 December 2022 20:02 (two years ago)

two years pass...

His explanation of “drunk in Croatia” is believable but I immediately dug around to see if he could be a Death in June fan.

https://www.pressherald.com/2025/10/21/graham-platner-addresses-tattoo-linked-to-nazis/

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 21 October 2025 16:40 (one week ago)

Definitely a fan ☠️

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 21 October 2025 18:29 (one week ago)


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