T/S: Superfly vs. Curtis

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I have no idea which one of these I love more. Curtis has the lush instrumentation, the musical and lyrical variety, and the harmonic complexity. Superfly has the falsetto! The wah-wah! The pain and the hurt and the sex! Better songs, perhaps? More cohesive?

WHAT SAY YOU

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

Curtis has "Move On Up" and "If There's A Hell...", plus it's just more, I dunno, substantial, quantity-wise. More like an album. Superfly just feels a bit skimpy with its half-dozen songs and instrumental soundtrack filler. (A half-dozen GREAT & endlessly samplable songs, it goes without saying...)

Myonga Vön Bontee, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)

Oh man, "Move On Up" has to be the decider here. Best song ever? MAYBE.

tylerw, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

Curtis is solid but Superfly's highs are higher and its lows are lower

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

speaking of which, (sort of) i was listening to "Curtis Live!" a week or so ago--what a sweet album! Really great atmosphere, playing, everything. Is there other live Curtis stuff comparable to this? Is there anything comparable to this? Mellow, intimate funk/soul that can also kick out the jams?

tylerw, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

"Move On Up" has to be the decider here. Best song ever? MAYBE.

You have a point, except Little Child Running Wild is actually the best song ever (maybe).

chap, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

If both of them had "We The People Who Are Darker Than Blue", I might be able to call this even, but only one does, so there we are.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

The demos on the CD reissue of "Curtis" are nice and loose, lots of tasty guitar. I don't think I've heard the double-disc "Superfly" reissue. Is there anything on there that's worth the extra $$$?

tylerw, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

Curits >>> Superfly

not even a question

deej, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

otm about the demos. miss black america demo much better than the album version.

chaki, Thursday, 22 March 2007 03:26 (eighteen years ago)

"Underground"!!!!

The Reverend, Thursday, 22 March 2007 03:50 (eighteen years ago)

Curtis is my favourite soul album ever, so no competition.

Tuomas, Thursday, 22 March 2007 11:34 (eighteen years ago)

"Curtis"

Tom D., Thursday, 22 March 2007 12:08 (eighteen years ago)

i'll go with superfly. as per shakey mo.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 22 March 2007 12:36 (eighteen years ago)

But did Shakey really choose Superfly? I thought his answer was kinda ambivalent...

Myonga Vön Bontee, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

After an intense and sweaty night of listening and relistening, and as much as I unabashedly love Superfly, I think I'm going to have to go with Curtis. This will haunt me for the rest of my days and I'll probably revive this in a year to change my mind.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

i'm probably alone here, but i actually like <i>Roots</i> better than either one
"we gotta have peace" is maybe my favorite curtis song ever and "get down" is such an amazing opener that i am not sure i can think of a better one. and don't even get me started on "beautiful brother of mine" cos i might talk all day about it if i get started

but in response to the original question, my answer would be <i>Curtis</i>

rentboy, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

ooops, tag failure

rentboy, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

sixteen years pass...

Saw Super Fly on a big screen today. Obviously a brilliant soundtrack but it sounded kind of murky in this context, like more so than on the record or CD. This appeared to be an old 35mm print, and I started to think a remaster would be a good idea.

Hadn’t realized that you don’t hear the “Freddie’s Dead” vocal in the film, just the instrumental part. You do see Freddie die though.

Josefa, Thursday, 18 May 2023 00:41 (two years ago)

ten months pass...

how many film soundtracks like SuperFly are out there? by which I mean: an amazing collection of tunes that are written for, but are not directly involved with the movie (so like, not for a musical or anything), that also works as its own standalone album? only thing that comes to mind for me is that band that wrote a bunch of songs for The Adventures of Pete and Pete.

frogbs, Friday, 12 April 2024 03:34 (one year ago)

To Live & Die in LA maybe?

sknybrg, Friday, 12 April 2024 03:45 (one year ago)

other curtis albums...

short eyes
let's do it again
sparkle (to a lesser extent, but close enough...)

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Friday, 12 April 2024 03:52 (one year ago)

Does it have to be a single artist?
The Harder They Come could work.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 12 April 2024 04:06 (one year ago)

I would say yes because what makes SuperFly unique is it fits pretty snugly in Curtis's own catalogue. as a standalone thing you probably wouldn't suspect it was a soundtrack

frogbs, Friday, 12 April 2024 04:12 (one year ago)

how many film soundtracks like SuperFly are out there? by which I mean: an amazing collection of tunes that are written for, but are not directly involved with the movie (so like, not for a musical or anything), that also works as its own standalone album? only thing that comes to mind for me is that band that wrote a bunch of songs for The Adventures of Pete and Pete.


The stuff Aimee Mann did for Magnolia comes to mind.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 12 April 2024 05:01 (one year ago)

Oh that is a good one!

Other single artist original soundtracks that could work as albums:

Miles Davis - Ascenseur pour l'échafaud
Badly Drawn Boy - About a Boy
Explosions in the Sky - Friday Night Lights
Eddie Vedder - Into the Wild
Shudder to Think - First Love, Last Rites
Seu Jorge - the Life Aquatic Studio Sessions
Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - She’s the one

Not sure how well they worked removed from the movie but both Suspiria original (Goblin) and remake (Thom Yorke) soundtracks are by a single artist and are good.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 12 April 2024 13:31 (one year ago)

Until the End of the World comes to mind, to frogbs' original question.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 April 2024 13:56 (one year ago)

I would suggest More by Pink Floyd, one of my favorite Floyd albums

Josefa, Friday, 12 April 2024 14:00 (one year ago)

Obscured By Clouds!

My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Friday, 12 April 2024 14:06 (one year ago)

Never seen either film so no idea how much of the album is actually used in the soundtrack.

My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Friday, 12 April 2024 14:07 (one year ago)

would Miles Davis - A Tribute to Jack Johnson count?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 12 April 2024 14:17 (one year ago)

I think all of the Floyd music on their More album is also used in the film, if not exactly the same takes

Josefa, Friday, 12 April 2024 14:38 (one year ago)

Never seen either film so no idea how much of the album is actually used in the soundtrack.

In La Vallée, not a huge amount of screen time, though most of the songs are heard at some point. For instance "Free Four" is briefly playing on an onscreen radio.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 13 April 2024 19:18 (one year ago)

there were a lot of blaxploitation soundtracks like that, tho i am a little confused by "not directly involved with the movie (so like, not for a musical or anything)"

isaac hayes' shaft is a big one. willie hutch's the mack, marvin gaye's trouble man, and bobby womack's across 110th street are others. shaft and the latter two do have some instrumental incidentals that might give away that it's a soundtrack and not just a regular entry in a discography (the mack does too, i guess, but only one or two).

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Saturday, 13 April 2024 19:27 (one year ago)

i am a little confused by "not directly involved with the movie (so like, not for a musical or anything)"

I took this to mean the songs are not seen to be performed "diegetically" in the fictional world.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 13 April 2024 19:53 (one year ago)

Saturday Night Fever is basically this. Five all-new tracks by The Bee Gees (one w/ lead vocal by Yvonne Ellman).

Josefa, Saturday, 13 April 2024 20:25 (one year ago)

And crucial to The Bee Gees’ discography

Josefa, Saturday, 13 April 2024 20:28 (one year ago)

Oh yeah that’s a good call

frogbs, Saturday, 13 April 2024 21:27 (one year ago)

symphonic suite akira by geinoh yamoshirogumi? sadly unavailable on streaming platforms.

ledge, Sunday, 14 April 2024 06:34 (one year ago)

electric flag's soundtrack for corman's the trip (the best thing they ever did)

no lime tangier, Sunday, 14 April 2024 08:27 (one year ago)

an amazing collection of tunes that are written for, but are not directly involved with the movie (so like, not for a musical or anything), that also works as its own standalone album

Really, couldn't most popular music or song-based soundtracks qualify (based on one's appreciation of the artist)?
Very few are dependant upon the film for significance or meaning. The big exception would be largely instrumental background music by artists who normally specialize in songs, but even in that case they can be accepted as part of the artist's canon (like Gabriel's Passion for example).

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 14 April 2024 14:27 (one year ago)


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