The Ibadan Sound: Jerome Sydenham, Dennis Ferrer etc.

how is sydenham + chandler's "saturday" album??

it sounds from the itunes samples like nasty wine bar music.

yeah, don't buy it, it's good. not for you.

some crappy brit house with playstation beats is waiting for your oh so underground ears.

-- blunt, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 21:04

^^ does what it says on the can

i think gene farris + roy davis jr are more my speed these days

that's nostalgic since neither have released much lately. also they're fairly different and haven't worked together as far as I know, so I'm not sure what you mean?

it's just what i've been listening to lately. i was at a store the other day and saw copies of "this is my religion" and "water for thirsty children" in a small "used deep house" bin along with "saturday".

i think maybe a long time ago (15 years ago) the three were in the same place (rough-edged faintly tribal house) and then the three went their separate ways ... farris into tough/boring filterhouse and tech-house, roy davis somewhat moodymann-ish with his amateurish jazz + r&b leaning productions, and chandler followed an osunlade-ish broken beat / live muso path.

three strands of deep house, i guess. are there others?

that's just two then and actually there's only one! but according to ILM all kinds of techy stuff goes under "deep house" as well.

I'd just make a subdivision for really harmless Naked type stuff.

Blunt your definition of "deep house" is crazy restrictive though - works well for polemical purposes I guess!

Actually I get the impression that some stuff you call deep house I'd be inclined to call garage?

x-post yeah I thought Naked would probably deserve their own strand.

Still feeling Ame remix of Ferrer & Sydenham 'Timbuktu'. stone cold classic.

btw what is this bullshit having to log on every time you post on ILM? It's kinda kill the forum. Mods?

garage does cross all boundaries here... it's like Naked deep house w/vocals. OK not really but I hear it as gospel- or diva-like vocal house, nearly indistinguishable from mainstream post-80s disco or sped-up run-of-the-mill r&b, more often than not shallow instead of deep.

http://www.discogs.com/release/726189
(male spoken word tone)

I see that you must be lying to the music.
Trying to be that big fish in a little pond.
I see you must be lost, lost in the oblivion.
Taking the music, starving for gain, living for gold, where is the music?
You must be lost, in the oblivion.
House music is a true music, you can't lie to house music
You find yourself wandering, now you're lost in your own hype, in the oblivion.
Trying to be that big fish in a little pond.
You must be lost. Thinking you're some kind of hero.
Pushing on, pushing on your own hype. Believing in your own hype.
You must be lost, you must be lost in the oblivion.
Thinking you're some kind of demi-god, for profit.
You can't lie to the music, you're lying to yourself.
I believe you're lost, lost in the oblivion.
Trying to follow the trends, trying to make them ends.
I see you're lost, lost in the oblivion.
Trying to be yourself, you can't even do that no more.
Trying to be somebody else, can't do that no more.
I see you're lost!
It's like the deaf leading the blind.
Can't see where you're going, never saw where you were even coming from.
I see you're lost, lost in a storm of oblivion.
Thinking that you can run away trying to do r&b, come back then try to do house.
You've lost the plot in the oblivion.
Try to lie to house music.
You're not a true soldier, you're not a true house lover.
Believing in your own hype. See but that's why most of them are lost in the oblivion.
I see that you like talking about yourself in the third party.
Do you even believe yourself?
Sometimes your mindset is on somebody else. Trying to hate, trying to doubt.
House music is all about love. But sometimes, sometimes, some people get lost, lost in the oblivion.

*winks, ducks

I don't mind that track, but all that "true house" stuff is pretty tiresome (usually i never listen to lyrics so I don't mind).

I see you must be lost.

at this rate, you'll never make it to "soul heaven"

how is efdemin "corny"? i just don't hear the pretense.

where is that "old man yells at clouds" jpg?

http://image.mycolours.com.au/large/1350243.jpg

my own joke turned against me.. how ironic. Thought of pulling it from my flickr account whence it came from on the other thread, but you linked it from elsewhere :(

luv 'travelling' and 'poor people', both of which i think i heard on target's show actually! - everything else i dug for was a bit trackier and needed a context i don't have the time for. some okay r$b rmxs as well, yeah: one of the many jill scotts, a bilal one, and this chaka khan/ 'disrespectful' i'm listening to on the myspace seems like a good idea also.

feliciano vocal mix of raf gum ft monique bingham 'kissing strangers' wot i heard on footloose the other week (as did you i would assume) is my favourite housey thing right now though.

I don't know if I got that far through the show rtc! 1xtra tends to crash on me every so often and it's so painful having to fast forward through the parts you've already listened to.

I loved Conan Liquid's "One Time For Your Mind" though!

Actually rtc you might know: what is the version of DJ Spen's "Gabryelle" that all the funky house DJs play? You know with the big string riffs and the vaguely Derrick Carter meets Claude Von Stroke bouncey beats. I know it's not the original. Footloose lists it as "Gabryelle (Dub)", but it sounds way too different from the original to be just a straight dub.

Marcus Nasty loops his "Marcus Marcus Nasty Nasty Dub Dub Plate" vocal over the top so I'm wondering if it's new.

ah no it was the first track on the show when i heard it! i'll give it a zshare later. it is just wine bar music like the scary man upthread says, but i'm at that age it seems.

rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk:554/1xtra/house_mix.ra

^ next time pop this in ur browser btw, chunky bbc navigation is a mug's game as you say.

i know exactly the tune you mean, but no idea on the partic mix no. assumed it was marcus nasty's own dubzie - i thought old nasty crew straight away - but if everyone else is playing it then i dunno. am pretty rubbish id-ing funky tho tbh; i was present at a marcus nasty set with quince or the other one on the mic the other month and it was, to put it mildly, so fucking amazing that hearing sets afterwards without the mc element doing "oggy oggy oggy, oi oi oi" with you just seemed a bit rubbish. (cue reynoldsian ton of 'ardkore bricks eh.)

"ah no it was the first track on the show when i heard it! i'll give it a zshare later. it is just wine bar music like the scary man upthread says, but i'm at that age it seems."

Please do. I can't work out when Footloose played it. Thanks for the tip re chunky bbc navigation though!

"ah no it was the first track on the show when i heard it! i'll give it a zshare later. it is just wine bar music like the scary man upthread says, but i'm at that age it seems.

Yeah I thought it was Marcus's own dub too - it's totally Nasty Crew, like "Take 'Em Out" or something similar . And it makes romantic sense that Marcus at some point heard "Gabryelle" and could see the early-Jammer potential tune just hiding inside and just waiting to be unleashed.

There's certain other tracks he puts those loops over, like the one with Elephant Man and the sample saying "dub...plate...style" (cue another two tons). Okay I'm going back to this original assumption then.

Maybe Footloose is just being coy.

"and it was, to put it mildly, so fucking amazing that hearing sets afterwards without the mc element doing "oggy oggy oggy, oi oi oi" with you just seemed a bit rubbish."

Yeah it's like that intense new whizzkid scientific advancement on a drug of choice - it's impossible to go back to the old stuff after that even if you liked it before. I particularly and sentimentally enjoy Rankin reprising all his old 2-step track lines - "Feel it coming in coming on" etc.

Other people: Quentin Harris! Where my panglossian house dogs at?

OMG yeah the Quentin Harris remix of Jill Scott's "Whatever" - SO GOOD.

is it the spiritual south remix of "gabryelle" (as heard on disc two of this comp?)

RTC thinks it's a remix by UK funky house act Malice - I haven't checked the myspace page to verify though.

Isn't the Spiritual South mix more in the vein of widescreen tribal-prog?

http://www.zshare.net/audio/1437514420c0b130/

oh yeah here's the bingham.

i heard that mix the vibe as well. it is good and dark and sleazy classicism. i wonder if the uk lot play out 'slow velocity'?

the syndenham mix on this is ultra lush, total wide-screen, tribal-prog, open-air stuff. set your aspect ratio accordingly (sorry). finally a commercial mix from '08 that has all of the historically reverent bits but also sounds contemporary/fresh!! it even has bleepy bits! i haven't heard the ron trent disc yet because i just picked the comp up and mr. syndenham has been killing it lately so he goes first.

so much for omphaloskepsis minimal huh

although it would sound great if you were nice and high

Yeah I really really want to hear that!

I picked up the Harris debut album and on first listen it's aight but underwhelming. The grooves/production are great but the vocals feel too on-point. Like, on his two great recent remixes of Jill Scott ("Hate On Me" and "Whatever") the bluesy/soulful vocals kind of strut across and against the vocals, whereas these are such typical right-on-the-beat house diva vocals by and large.

my experience has also been that it's all about the singles.

and the DJ.

so how good is that Trent mix? apart from a probably no-frills mixing style

yeah the mixing is no-frills, but i'm a firm believer that the tunes lead the mixing style and in that case the mixing on his disc is perfectly fine. it's starts with lots of songs led by female vocals (the "force of nature" remix is sweet), goes into a tripped out balearic section (one song, can't remember which, is just like a housed up version of "when the world is running down" by the police - some of those police songs being big time chicago touch stones, but you know that already :) and then it gets down. the frankie feliciano edit of "laid" is a gem.

oh and in the photo insert RT is wearing a jean-michel basquiat t-shirt and a baseball cap with the initials JMB on it which scores epic points in my book :D i can relate

a great idea pairing these two up for a mix comp anyway

yes it's about time these cats got paid, too!

im behind on lots of this stuff in terms of track names and artists but how great is this promo shot
http://a295.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/122/l_3c3259be31ed830b98f22f2df20d690e.jpg

also tim what u think of the quenton rmx of 'feedback'?

quentin

Still haven't heard the remix of "Feedback", but his remix of Hudson's "Spotlight" is the most astonishingly large thing I have heard in a minute. Thanks Lex!

for the record I must retract what I've said here earlier because I do think Sydenham made a relevant contribution to techno, in "Blacktro".

ok so this mix (which er isn't actually "mixed", it seems) is A+ throughout.

tim u have to hear dennis ferrer ft. mia tuttavilla - touched the sky (quentin harris re-production) like RIGHT NOW - shit is so immense

deej do you know anywhere i might be able to hear the quentin rmx of 'feedback'? haven't been able to find it...

indeed here is the ferrer/tuttavilla/harris largeness... http://www.sendspace.com/file/bgn8v4

"tim u have to hear dennis ferrer ft. mia tuttavilla - touched the sky (quentin harris re-production) like RIGHT NOW - shit is so immense"

YES IT'S AMAZING. Ha ha I put this on my "WELCOME TO THE PLEASUREDOME" mix I just mentioned in the remixes of the year thread.

the build is seriously something else.

i am talking to quentin harris in one hour

Why I haven't I just been putting 'Quentin Harris' into the search field of youtube every couple of months as a matter of general principle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHAEDsjsSPQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKOOF1B7mys&feature=fvw

dennis ferrer's "the red room" is O_O why did no one tell me about this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_MgUF2H0WY

kind of like: here is "hey hey" part 2 - and just as good

the beat dropping back in <3

Haha I was meaning to come back to this thread and link it!

WELCOME TO THE RED ROOM HO-NEY

also does anyone actually have an mp3 of the quentin harris remix of "feedback" mentioned upthread?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfELoyLMn6A

this is whats up

ferrer is gonna be in chicago at smartbar next month. how is he live?

Seen Sydenham play. Quite deep, tribal.. can't answer your question though! Talking of Ibadan, Claussel's mix of Ten City - All Loved Out is one of my all time favourites. I would love to hear this in a club, the last track played... the final 3 minutes on loop..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9X3EAvzbcI

http://soundcloud.com/quentin_harris/adele-set-fire-to-the-rain

it is a cruel indictment of society that every torch singer isnt automatically sent quentin's way

tis high time to check what dude's been up to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CFmyjaambo

in the meantime tho HOW ABOUT THIS for an homage from general production smartarse breach

I can't load that from work but if it's the Breach tune on the TRAXXX compilation ("You Won't Find Love Again") then I love it.

that is a very great track but this, this right here is a caps lock jam

OKAY SO THIS IS GREAT.

Can I also submit for yr consideration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9K7qVFXL6E

I think this dude will be getting some play on the SUMMER JAMS thread, just maybe.

whoa @ that

want to pair it with "when a fire starts to burn"

xp ya 'hot' and 'jack' have been inescapable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbI4RHiftXs

I should go see Ferrer tonight, right?