TS: Stevie Nicks vs. Don Henley

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Their duet "Leather and Lace" might actually be both artists' musical nadir, but who had a more redeemable solo catalogue?

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

leather and lace is amazing!

― scott seward, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

You must be kidding!

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

Their duet "Leather and Lace" might actually be both artists' musical nadir

WTFFFFFFFFFFFF?!?!?!

I go with Nicks just because FM > Eagles.

― will, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

i started a stevie duet thread once:

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=51650

― scott seward, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

johnny, don't you know where you are by now?

― scott seward, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

(but I sometimes think that each may be the lamest in their respective bands)

― will, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

As long as Glen Frey is alive, Don Henley's still in 2nd place.

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

Agree with Jonny Fever although "The Boys Of Summer" alone secures Henley's win here. I've always hated Nicks' voice.

― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway, I'm siding with Stevie...

I Can't Wait > Boys of Summer
Stand Back > Dirty Laundry
Talk to Me > New York Minute

etc., etc.

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

Leather and Lace is so nice...I remember hearing that all the time on the radio and at junior high school dances, but never owned it. I wish I'd bought it as a 7" single.

As for Don Henley, I have real mixed feelings. Dirty Laundry is rather classic, and Boys of Summer and a few other things, but mostly he gets major shameful demerit points just for his association with the Eagles. So yeah, Stevie wins.

― Bimble, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

Also I fucking love Don't Stop Dragging My Heart Around, in fact, I would just about kill to hear that right now.

― Bimble, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

I have to say I'm rather surprised at the outpouring of love for "Leather and Lace." Even when I was young and didn't know what made good music good and bad music bad, I knew "Leather and Lace" was straight-up bad.

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

Hahaha "Don't Stop..." hahahahaha

― Bimble, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

Get it? DON'T STOP dragging my heart around? The Fleetwood Mac song "Don't Stop" Hahahahaha

Am I drunk? You bet.

― Bimble, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

No, Johnny. You must be in that middle school (junior high) auditorium with me now and admit at least that it is so much better than the nauseating other ballad of that era by Chicago...you know which one.

― Bimble, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

As for Don Henley, I have real mixed feelings. Dirty Laundry is rather classic, and Boys of Summer and a few other things, but mostly he gets major shameful demerit points just for his association with the Eagles.

The Eagles is way better than anything Henley nor Frey has ever done solo. That being said, the best Eagles stuff was mostly written and sung by Frey.

― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

I don't agree, and as the Beatles fan I know you to be, I think you should be ashamed to stick up for the Eagles.

― Bimble, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

If I hear Take It To The Limit ONE MORE TIME I'm going to strangle somebody, Geir.

― Bimble, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

Bimble, I like all those cheesy 80s Chicago ballads, though. Yes, even "Inspiration."

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

NO! The horror! I had so conveniently forgotten! Take ye out back to the eighties Rick Astley stockyard and bind thee!

― Bimble, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

John Peel once said about the Eagles on the air - "Are they going to be played on this program? Not bloody likely"

― Bimble, Sunday, 8 April 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

The late 70s Eagles was an OK but somewhat interesting bland AOR act. However, their first couple of albums were great. Particularly "Desperado". Like a somewhat more polished and pop oriented Gram Parsons.

― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 8 April 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

eagles ruled. geir just hates them cuzza their phat beats.

― scott seward, Sunday, 8 April 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

The Eagles were just kickin' it.

― Bimble, Sunday, 8 April 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

If you ignore the smugness of his lyrics, "All She Wants To Do is Dance" is a rather novel use of synths, drum programming, and Linn drums cira 1985; and Stevie's "Stand Back" is one of the greatest Prince rips ever recorded.

As for "Leather and Lace," it's a kitsch classic.

So: both insufferable, hence a draw.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 8 April 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

Nope. Point taken about "All She Wants To Do Is Dance", but Stand Back still craps all over it.

― Bimble, Sunday, 8 April 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

Even before Henley was a gray hair, it seemed like he was attacking "young music" from a completely uncool standpoint. "All She Wants to Do is Dance" is a perfect example... synths, Linn drum, etc. With all that modern tech (for the time, anyway), it still sounded like new wave Eagles.

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 8 April 2007 22:49 (eighteen years ago)

Stevie in a walk, though Boys Of Summer is just barely better than any of her solo stuff (Edge of Seventeen and Stand Back come within spittin' distance).

― rogermexico., Sunday, 8 April 2007 23:10 (eighteen years ago)

Also "Leather and Lace" so obviously classic you must be taking the piss.

― rogermexico., Sunday, 8 April 2007 23:11 (eighteen years ago)

Also "Leather and Lace" so obviously classic you must be taking the piss.

― rogermexico., Sunday, 8 April 2007 23:12 (eighteen years ago)

I can honestly say I had no idea how many people loved "Leather and Lace." Even in a sentimental ILM way.

I still think it's total stinkypoo.

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 8 April 2007 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

With all that modern tech (for the time, anyway), it still sounded like new wave Eagles.

Well, yeah: he was still repugnant and sentimental in a predictably macho manner.

Meanwhile Nicks has so many great solo singles: "I Can't Wait," "Rooms on Fire," "If Anyone Falls," "Nightbird," etc.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 8 April 2007 23:26 (eighteen years ago)

"Boys of Summer" > collected works of Stevie Nicks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else by Henley & the Eagles

― m coleman, Sunday, 8 April 2007 23:43 (eighteen years ago)

"leather and lace" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that sheryl crow/kid rock duet

― get bent, Monday, 9 April 2007 01:28 (eighteen years ago)

and the eagles had some damn good songs, dammit

― get bent, Monday, 9 April 2007 01:29 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not sure they ever recorded them.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 9 April 2007 01:36 (eighteen years ago)

They did on the "Desperado" album for one....

― Geir Hongro, Monday, 9 April 2007 01:38 (eighteen years ago)

m coleman otm

― Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 9 April 2007 06:41 (eighteen years ago)

stevie talking about justin timberlake's "cry me a river" on her itunes celebrity playlist: "this song and video remind me of lindsey and i a long time ago."

for that quote alone, stevie wins in a landslide.

― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

m coleman not otm

― scott seward, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

boys of summer!!? eugh

― deej, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

ahh just you wait.

I haven't thought about "boys of summer" in years but hearing it twice on the radio in a week made me think the same thing I did when it came out: "what got into don henley to make him write such a good song?"

it'll probably resurface soon in a viagra commercial

― m coleman, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

stevie wins in a landslide

Nicely put.

― J, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

Stevie never wrote anything as cranky as "All She Wants to Do is Dance," and Henley never wrote "I Can't Wait" or "Stand Back," so the Nickster wins.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

re: "Boys of Summer"--isn't the music written by Mike Campbell of Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers? If I'm not mistaken, Petty rejected the track as being too techno or something. But in an alternate universe, I like to imagine Tom singing this one...in duet with Stevie Nicks. So: Stevie wins.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

i like the boys of summer, but these are all songs that don wrote or co-wrote that i like better:

one of these nights

lyin' eyes

take it to the limit

witchy woman

tequila sunrise

desperado

best of my love

hotel california

new kid in town

life in the fast lane

victim of love

the long run

heartache tonight

dirty laundry

but overall, i'll take stevie.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

Don't forget "Those Shoes" which is supposedly about Stevie.

― C. Grisso/McCain, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

"what got into don henley to make him write such a good song?"

Mike Campbell, obv.

― rogermexico., Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

"Boys of Summer" > collected works of Stevie Nicks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else by Henley & the Eagles

--m coleman

Take back a dozen-or-so (but no more!) of those ">>>"s and I fully agree with Mark. (I like "Leather and Lace" just fine.)

― Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

yeah--mike campbell! (xpost). didn't he also write "Heart of the Matter"? That one sounds good whenever I hear it...i think the last time was in a mall food court. anyway, campbell is a fine songwriter and a great guitarist.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

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