S/D: Joe Henderson

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err.....what are intervallic transpositions ?!?

he's very good on larry young's 'unity' (blue note, 1965).

that's just a great album all round.

jazz guitar geek/music theory terminology

Canyon Lady

Professional ambition and product-conscious mediocrity can vitiate any music. Henderson was a promising tenor player whose economical, full-toned solos were a major attraction of Horace Silver's late 60's group. Now he fronts his own band, stretching his talent over multi-percussive tracks that last eight or nine minutes and adding some tasteful brass for aesthetic panache. The result is far from offensive. But it's pointless. (Grade: C+)
- © R. Christgau/Village Voice

ugh ^^ xgau's consumer guide reviews are on rhapsody now and whatever merit they had in the context of his books or the Voice or Creem is lost as actual reference entries they're pointless and/or annoying, I don't want to read some patronizing one-upping putdown while I'm ENJOYING an album, y'know?!??

I checked out Canyon Lady cause of this thread and thought it was sweet, so there.

In Japan is really good.

-- Hurting 2, Friday, April 13, 2007 4:35 AM

YES YES

err.....what are intervallic transpositions ?!?

-- sam500, Tuesday, September 25, 2007 4:46 AM

lol apparently the first google result for intervallic transposition is my blog entry about "orbits" from miles smiles.

in short it's doing math with the notes you're playing in order to come up with new notes to play. it's kinda a mechanical way of inventing interesting or unexpected melody lines. joe used it a lot. he'd toss out a four-note phrase, then repeat it with small variations each time until you realize that he'd built an entire solo out of said variations. it's really astounding to hear someone who really makes it work.

If I really like The Elements, would I like Multiple? From the description it sounds similar (electronic effects and overdubs), but apparently Henderson also sings on it, and I've heard so many fusion albums where jazz instrumentalists try to sing, with lame results, that I'm kinda scared of that.

hoos does that all-Japanese rhythm section not smoke insanely?

Also have you heard Power to the People? Black Narcissus is one of my favorite tunes.

err.....what are intervallic transpositions ?!?

-- sam500, Tuesday, September 25, 2007 4:46 AM

in short it's doing math with the notes you're playing in order to come up with new notes to play.

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big hoos - cheers for the explanation. i'm still trying to get my head around modal jazz to be honest!

still haven't checked out any of joe's solo stuff yet. is Page One the best place to start?

page one is kind of dull. elements is better than average. his solo stuff hasn't hit its mark with me yet tbh, guess i should be asking for recs too before i give up.

joe's solo on horace silver's song for my father is TIGHT.

Also have you heard Power to the People? Black Narcissus is one of my favorite tunes.

-- Hurting 2, Monday, February 4, 2008 8:34 PM

Still have not heard, will have to add to the listi

Had to sell my copy of In Japan today :( :( :(

Retain it in digital form though! :D :D

That record kills

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fiyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

been digging this one lately:

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Would you rep for Multiple, Hoos? Does it sound anything The Elements? I've been meaning to get that for some time now, but the idea that he sings on it kinda scares me.

was just listening to Power To The People yesterday -- def. one of the better transitional records between acoustic/electric & post-bop/fusion ... Have also been on the verge of buying the Milestone Years box set, because it's been pretty cheap at Dusty Groove, but never pulled the trigger. regrets.

i like that '90s henderson record with john scofield, dave holland, and al foster (think it's called "so near, so far")

'afro centric' is my, er, jam at the moment, lots of fun to play along with if you're into that sort of thing.

they get so much mileage out of those two very closely related chords. the trumpet/sax figure in fourths that they return to every now and then is like one of my favourite sounds, when they do that super tight bit together, so funky! herbie is on fire, his occasional 'bit too loud' straight up chordal stabs are the shit. jack dejohnnette is on another planet.

for some reason it does the same thing for me that some of otomo yoshihide's new jazz quintet does. anyway, power to the people is the only joe henderson thing i have, it'll last a while, looking forward to checking out another one!

JH is fetching some ridiculous prices on ebay. I saw somebody asking $125 for 'The Elements'. Even some of the blue note records aren't hitting those figures. Is his Milestone stuff that scarce?

They all seem to be in print on CD.

I was just looking at one of those budget 5CD boxes that has In 'n' Out, Our Thing, Inner Urge, and the two volumes of The State of the Tenor for $15-20.

Great cover of 'Earth' from the Elements album.

https://sarathykorwar.bandcamp.com/album/my-east-is-your-west

That's cool.

But let me just say that I am absolutely thrilled to see a Joe Henderson topic see a revive in 2018.

His Live at the Lighthouse record is one of those ones no one ever talks about but every time I put it on I'm like "this is the best music ever"

Earlier this year I wrote a string of posts on Burning Ambulance, going through all of McCoy Tyner's 1970s albums (there were about 20 of them). I'm thinking about doing another similar week-long trawl through Henderson's catalog on Blue Note, Milestone, and a couple of other labels from 1963-80 (there are about 25 albums all together). I have the 8CD Milestone box and it's really incredible stuff.

Live at the Lighthouse and Live in Japan are two of his best from that 70s run at Milestone. I bought that Milestone set for super cheap in the early 2000s when all that Milestone / Prestige / Fantasy stuff was going out of print and it was on cut out discount. One of the best box sets I've ever purchased.

I haven't played that stuff in years. I remember having a particular affinity for Canyon Lady.

Yeah, thanks to this revive, I'm looking forward to getting home and firing up the old iPod. I know I had the whole eight disc set archived and put back into the original running order of the albums. I hope it's all still there on my external drive.

I've been on a hunt for Joe's Milestone run on LP for a while now and I've always seen high prices on Tetragon, The Kicker, and Multiple, but since when did Canyon Lady suddenly go from a $25 record to a $100 record? Is it that rare? IDK. Is it boring to talk about the record collecting side of this man's amazing music?

Just get the Milestone Years box set. Way more cost effective.

I did end up writing about Henderson's whole catalog from 1963-1981 - here are the links:

Part 1 (all the Blue Note albums)
Part 2 (The Kicker, Tetragon, two live albums from 1968, Power to the People, and Jazz Patterns with Woody Shaw)
Part 3 (At the Lighthouse, In Pursuit of Blackness, Black is the Color, two Japanese live albums)
Part 4 (Multiple, The Elements, Canyon Lady, Black Miracle, Black Narcissus)
Part 5 (four relative obscurities: Yama, Barcelona, Mirror Mirror, and Relaxin' at Camarillo)

^ very helpful, thx

Really enjoying the Mwandishi/Macero-style studio vibrations of Black Is the Color

grawlix, those are exceptional writings! Thank you for sharing!

(some of those links are busted, by the way, but can be found by following the related links at the end of each piece)

I still think Camarillo and the State of the Tenor are criminally undervalued albums, especially considering the time period in which they were released. I love those records.

this stuff is insanely hard to find/expensive

the only one I have is The Elements :(

even the Milestone Years box set is kinda hard to track down these days (and pricey)

I was lucky to grab the box on eBay a couple of years ago for $45.

Black Narcissus is still a cheapie and quite good. The first side comes off like outtakes from Black is the Color. Even though it's not as good, Black Miracle can be had for $5 still, and has some good stuff on it because come on it's Joe.

I'd agree that Relaxin' at Camarillo is worth the grab while it's cheap.

miraculously, the links here still work

https://opiumhum.blogspot.com/2013/05/joe-henderson-black-is-color-1972-black.html

State of Tenor vol 2 is getting reissued on Blue Note. What a great set it is as well, absolute classic.

Really weird that they'd reissue Vol. 2 (on fancy vinyl) without doing the same for Vol. 1 (unless they did it a while ago and I just didn't hear about it). They're both great albums, but I have to admit they were the first Henderson-as-leader albums I heard and they gave me kind of a false impression of him. (I also got to see him play in a trio in 1997, with George Mraz and Al Foster.) His 70s albums are a lot hotter - the State of the Tenor albums are pretty low-key.

I love vol 2 best and hope the re-master is nice and loud cos my digital copy is way too quiet, even with full vol on my player. I don't see "low-key" as a diminisher, it's a quality I often seek these days.