Who is Redshape?

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Anyone know?

― Ronan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

it's not carl craig

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

huh. assumed it was.

― andrew m., Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

this is "rex the dog" all over again.

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

yes.

dave clarke?

― Ronan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

stirmonster? ned raggett?

― Ronan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

"famous producer" my ass ... it's probably going to turn out to be the alter ego of arne weinberg or something.

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

Yep..surely nobody famous would risk the chance to make so much more money by donning a mask and performing under an alias.

― Ronan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

yeah but the people who get named in these guessing games are invariably famous enough to not need to adopt a secret identity.

if i were dave clarke and i started having trouble selling out venues in the UK and europe i'd just go tour thailand or something instead of demoting myself to tiny clubs in belgium.

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

yeah that's what I meant.

plus if he had this material he could sell ten times more than "Redshape" has so far.

― Ronan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

oh sorry, i didn't parse that correctly ... watch your misplaced modifiers, fool!!!!

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

laurent garnier?

― creme1, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

didn't someone say that whoever it is had recorded on music man / delsin before releasing stuff as redshape? not that that narrows it down much ... i also heard it was somebody connected w/ the clone shop?

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

hey maybe its deetron ... he's released under his own name on music man and as starfighterz on delsin ... also he's got that faux-octave-one generic-detroit thing down pat, and he sorta nailed a dreciya-ish vibe on the delsin release, so maybe he's moved on to buttrich-type theatrics for these releases?

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

or maybe it's some extremely commercial trance / filter house dork we've never heard of gone underground.

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

is it impossible it's someone new?

― micarl, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

well, it has been billed as a famous producer in disguise.

― Ronan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

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― good dog, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

anyway, that picture was who it is.

― good dog, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

humorous or serious dog?

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 22:16 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, i posted a pic of redshape and a pic of an artist which look eerily similar. that and a couple of other factors give the game away. But thinking about it now, maybe it's not my place to spoil the mystery.

― good dog, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 22:31 (eighteen years ago)

based on headshape i thought maybe mark broom for a little while but mark's putting work out lately so i guess not.

i wonder if the mask is a cast of the person's head and we could identify them by the womanly lips.

― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 22:32 (eighteen years ago)

my money is on ned raggett.

― stirmonster, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 22:45 (eighteen years ago)

if it's not ned, deetron seems the most logical guess.

― stirmonster, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV0SBRFwqxM

― creme1, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 22:49 (eighteen years ago)

not deetron.

― stirmonster, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 23:06 (eighteen years ago)

luke slater?

― tricky, Thursday, 19 April 2007 01:28 (eighteen years ago)

luke has hair right now ... and looks like karl lagerfeld!!

http://www.spaceboss.net/images/luke_slater_big.jpg

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 19 April 2007 01:48 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.beststuff.com/images/articles/021406b.jpg

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 19 April 2007 01:50 (eighteen years ago)

luke slater did run through my head, too...

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 19 April 2007 01:51 (eighteen years ago)

Great sound quality on those youtube clips.

Out with it good dog.

― matt2, Thursday, 19 April 2007 02:15 (eighteen years ago)

New World Aquarium?

http://www.discogs.com/image/A-8209-1104361741.jpg

― matt2, Thursday, 19 April 2007 02:35 (eighteen years ago)

john beltran?

― tricky, Thursday, 19 April 2007 02:37 (eighteen years ago)

carl craig

― deeznuts, Thursday, 19 April 2007 02:41 (eighteen years ago)

how could people ever think it's cc?

― micarl, Thursday, 19 April 2007 03:00 (eighteen years ago)

damn the 1st 20 minutes of redshapes resident advisor mix fucking blow away any detroit techno set i've heard ... well ... ever! it's total KMS/CC copyism but it's awesome.

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 19 April 2007 04:36 (eighteen years ago)

holy shit have any of you heard "dog day"??? i'll have to check those RA podcasts.

― tricky, Thursday, 19 April 2007 05:29 (eighteen years ago)

sample here (m3u link)

― tricky, Thursday, 19 April 2007 06:09 (eighteen years ago)

Dog Day is killer! I wrote a little thing about it here.

I've always assumed Redshape was just one of the Delsin/Music Man producers in disguise.

― Michael F Gill, Thursday, 19 April 2007 06:18 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Sebastian+Kramer
= redshape

sorry to spoil it for you guys ^_^

― Коробе́йник , Thursday, 19 April 2007 07:48 (eighteen years ago)

pure plastic = mark broom

i was close!!

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 19 April 2007 08:03 (eighteen years ago)

I've been caning Ultra for a while, but that RA podcast sent me into 'OMG must have everything!' mode. Absolutely storming... that's a live set, right?

― Matt DC, Thursday, 19 April 2007 08:28 (eighteen years ago)

i need to vent about how much i absolutely loathe the word podcast. this is because i'm bitter that i missed loads of probably awesome RA mixes because i didn't know they were, like, just normal mixes, i thought podcasts were something different and lame. i still don't know what a podcast is really, the word is so off-putting.

― lex pretend, Thursday, 19 April 2007 09:06 (eighteen years ago)

...

― Коробе́йник , Thursday, 19 April 2007 09:23 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think it's the word that's lame, Lex.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 19 April 2007 09:34 (eighteen years ago)

his remix of zander vt "then and before" is fast becoming my fav track of the year, epic widescreen sci fi techno that just builds and builds and makes "full clip" appear rather tame in its dramaticisms.

― creme1, Thursday, 19 April 2007 13:03 (eighteen years ago)

yep...that is definitely his best work imo. has people convulsing in clubs.

― Ronan, Thursday, 19 April 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

IMO this liveset is much better than his recorded work

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 19 April 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Loving the RA mix, does anyone know what tracks at 35mins & 45mis are? Its absolutly changed my perspective on techno!

― antont, Saturday, 12 May 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

Shaped World and Dog Day are fantastic, by the way.

― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Sunday, 13 May 2007 00:11 (eighteen years ago)

Redshape revealed at last

― blueski, Sunday, 13 May 2007 00:24 (eighteen years ago)

thanks for destroying any hope that I was still a part of youth culture, Steve...

"I don't like this DJ Milton record Daddy, it sounds old."

― Display Name, Sunday, 13 May 2007 00:55 (eighteen years ago)

four months pass...

quite like Unfinished Symmetry and the other 3 tracks on the myspace at the mo. didn't get into that Zander VT remix first time tho.

― blueski, Friday, 5 October 2007 13:00 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

good golly gosh the new redshape on podium is on some seriously epic march of the stormtroopers style space techno shit. totally not feeling the len faki on the flip though.

― r1o natsume, Monday, 5 November 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

alright this has got to be DEXTER, no?

― resolved, Sunday, 16 December 2007 14:36 (seventeen years ago)

who cares? i cant understand the Redshape hype, his music is so average. how anyone could have assumed it was Carl Craig is really beyond me.

― pipecock, Sunday, 16 December 2007 20:02 (seventeen years ago)

nine months pass...

hey he's DJing at Cargo tonight from 2-3

― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Friday, 3 October 2008 15:10 (sixteen years ago)

how anyone could have assumed it was Carl Craig is really beyond me

his music is so average.

well which is it lol

― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Friday, 3 October 2008 15:10 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

The album is ridiculously good.

― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 10:33 (fifteen years ago)

― StanM, Saturday, 7 November 2009 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

Agreed, gave it a listen the other day and need to get back to it.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 7 November 2009 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

thank you, ilm

― This part of the sentence is even dumber. (lukas), Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:06 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah i know, it's like an endorsement.
Laurent Garnier: "Always in my bag"
Prins Thomas: "The b-side is the one for me"
Dixon: "A heartbreaking work of staggering genius"
Pipecock: "One would think that you listen to next to no deep house music if you like this"
― Tim F

xxxp

― This part of the sentence is even dumber. (lukas), Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

I don't believe that was an xpost.

― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Monday, 9 November 2009 00:45 (fifteen years ago)

It was stolen from another thread to put here, because of its continued relevance.

― This part of the sentence is even dumber. (lukas), Monday, 9 November 2009 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

(and it was responding to something far upthread, hence, xxxp)

― This part of the sentence is even dumber. (lukas), Monday, 9 November 2009 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

The moment when Bound Pt1 suddenly opens up and turns into Pt2 is astonishing. Would love to hear this on a really dirty and dark warehouse dancefloor.

― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Friday, 13 November 2009 16:44 (fifteen years ago)

I love how this album hits every mid-90s techno button:

- cheesy 3-D rendered cover art
- a song with "Part 1" AND "Part 2" in its title
- a song whose title references outer space

Not to mention the music, of course..

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 13 November 2009 16:51 (fifteen years ago)

Anyway I've said it before and I'll say it again now that anyone who in any way, (red)shape or form likes this kind of music really really really needs to hear, and hopefully purchase, Liquidism by Heiko Laux - http://www.discogs.com/Heiko-Laux-Liquidism/release/9972

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 13 November 2009 16:54 (fifteen years ago)

Thanks for the tip, but I wouldn't have linked the two instinctively - Laux' album sounds a lot closer to the obviously pre-minimalism era techno of Steve Stoll (The Blunted Boy-Wonder) and Darren Price (Under The Flightpath), Dave Clarke (Archive One) than Redshape does. I think I'd rather put Redshape next to LFO and Trentemöller (especially the added live drums). But that's just nitpicking, I guess.

― StanM, Saturday, 14 November 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

yeah they're different for sure but I think if you like one you'll like the other!

― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 14 November 2009 17:51 (fifteen years ago)

Oh, ok! Very possible! I do, at least.

― StanM, Saturday, 14 November 2009 17:54 (fifteen years ago)

i wonder why i think that though.. i mean both owe a big debt to detroit but as you say, laux is coming from a very dave clarke-ish place, a very dare i say progressive place where techno is moving forward, perfecting a kind of stubborn trackiness - seeing how far you can push the complexity of what is essentially a one-chord song. and it's glossy, futuristic, swirly and psychedelic - all that eddying, glistening atmosphere around the chattering hi hats. redshape is way more deliberately retro with his big lachrymose synth stabs. keep it simple stupid. everything sounds a bit rougher, but there's an actual melodic ambition (hello geir) going on here. the songs aren't JUST about layering and dynamics, they go somewhere else as well.

what they both have in common for me is a sense of rising tension and foreboding, anchored by a very front-and-center kick drum which is usually coupled with a perfunctory, robert armani-ish analog bass part, and the two just wallop you right along.

but laux's grimy, rain-soaked dystopia still has a few sparkles of rave-era utopianism in it, reflecting up out of the puddles, propelling you forward. redshape is well past that.

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 November 2009 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

i mean, even the few happy-ish moments on the album seem more nostalgic and wistful than actually happy

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 November 2009 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

U rite good, mr hand.

― StanM, Monday, 16 November 2009 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

Redshape's most recent releases have been pretty damn good: two EPs and a 2x12"... Does it make me a rockist or a bad person that I tend to really connect with "gritty" analog techno? I've also been digging the hell out of Omar-S and old Paperclip People and this Soul Jazz Acid House compilation I found and etc etc... It's not like I actively subscribe to the "ALL ANALOG NO DIGITAL BULLSHIT" dogma on Omar-S's back labels, but I can't deny that I respond strongly to the stuff.

― Clarke B., Tuesday, 13 September 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago)

have you heard any bad gritty techno or just the cream of the crop?

― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 02:00 (thirteen years ago)

Probably more cream than crap... I'd love to hear an example of shitty gritty, though. I imagine a huge part of why I'm even aware of this whole thing as a phenomenon is that these cream-of-the-crop guys are just excellent producers full-stop, but it's harder to describe why they're excellent in somewhat specific musical/compositional/textural terms than it is just to say "oh they're analog, they're 'real-er'"--and so that's what gets amplified in the discourse.

― Clarke B., Tuesday, 13 September 2011 02:06 (thirteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

I'm really liking this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X16gqP9b8bY

Heard on that recent BiS podcast w Dixon.

― viborg, Monday, 3 October 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

https://soundcloud.com/runningback/redshape-starsoup-333-promo

there was a new redshape album last november!

― j., Thursday, 18 April 2013 01:38 (twelve years ago)

eleven years pass...

new release "echoes" is the best thing i've heard from him in a minute

― he/him hoo-hah (map), Tuesday, 6 August 2024 01:56 (ten months ago)

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