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What is the best Genesis studio album

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OK, it was just a question of time. I just couldn't hold back anymore :)

And, btw, those who are looking for the "None of them, I don't like Genesis" option may just skip this poll and move on to the next thread.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Foxtrot 6
Selling England By The Pound 6
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 6
Nursery Cryme 4
Calling All Stations2
We Can't Dance 1
Invisible Touch 1
Genesis 1
Abacab 1
Duke 1
Wind And Wuthering 1
...And Then There Were Three 0
A Trick Of The Tail 0
Trespass 0
From Genesis To Revelation 0


― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/noodle_vague/8353_ashcroft_protest_m.jpg

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

I need to choose between Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot. I shall play them and come back to this.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

I'd like a mixture of the best tracks from Trespass and Nursery Cryme, but since that don't exist I voted for Selling England, which just shaded out Duke. But I forgot I don't much care for "Battle of Epping Forest[/i] :(

It's taken me a long time but I've decided that there isn't a "perfect" Genesis album. Each one has got something on it that doesn't work for me, or in the case of "The Knife" disrupts the cohesion of the rekkid.

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

For me "Selling England Is The Perfect One", even though "More Fool Me" and "After The Ordeal" aren't quite up there with the rest of the tracks.

― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

Hmmm.. Some confusion with the title between the marks there. Oh well.. :)

― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

Anybody who wants to choose "I don't like Genesis" could just vote for Calling All Stations featuring TV's Ray Winstone.

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:42 (eighteen years ago)

Even the band themselves weren't too fond of "Epping Forest" tho Geir.

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:42 (eighteen years ago)

The band themselves today aren't fond of anything they did before "Duke". Wasn't financially rewarding enough, I guess....

― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

You think? Phil Collins spoke about the old stuff quite affectionately in that article he wrote about playing with a tribute band.

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I guess he has realized he will now earn more money from touring the old stuff than releasing solo albums that nobody has wanted to buy since the early 90s.

― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

I refuse to believe any of them sully their music in the pursuit of filthy lucre.

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

Selling England By The Pound is the only one I own, so that I guess. Probably shouldn't have bothered voting.

― JN$OT, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

I could never get into selling england. I don't know why. Lamb Lies Down On Broadway is great but it's gotta be foxtrot probably but i'll listen to Nursery Cryme 1st to make sure.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

20 Jazz Funk Greats.

Oh, wait, hold on...

― chrissie_, Saturday, 21 April 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is the only Genesis I've ever been able to get into, but it sure is a great album.

― novaheat, Saturday, 21 April 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

Though I'm pretty convinced Selling England will take it, for me personally it would be between Wind & Wuthering and Trespass. In the end, I voted W&W.

― Joe, Saturday, 21 April 2007 22:38 (eighteen years ago)

Nursery Cryme has Harold the Barrel, which is Gabriel's high-water mark, so it wins

― Hans Rott, Saturday, 21 April 2007 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

I believe "The Lamb..." will take it even if "Selling..." is my favourite. "Foxtrot" may also be a contender. It seems there are fewer "Duke" or "Invisible Touch" fans here than I expected from ILM though.

― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 23:05 (eighteen years ago)

The Lamb is just too effin' much for me - it was actually what turned me off Genesis. I was digging NC & Foxtrot & even some of ...and then there were three and all my older friends were like "wait til you get to the Lamb Lies Down, there's this incredible story" and then I finally bought the album and 1) the story was garbage and 2) the version of "the Carpet Crawlers" wasn't as good as the one on "Seconds Out" so Crymes up Lambs down the end.

― Hans Rott, Saturday, 21 April 2007 23:08 (eighteen years ago)

Selling England is also kinda too much for me - Foxtrot & Nursery Cryme are ambitious but they have a sort of youthful charm, but around Selling England Gabriel starts really believing in his own greatness and becomes insufferable

― Hans Rott, Saturday, 21 April 2007 23:09 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I have gotten into "Selling England" more and more and it's the one Genesis album that grows the most on me.

I still feel like there is no beating "Selling...." as their most cohesive album and "Supper's Ready" as their defining moment though. :)

― Geir Hongro, Saturday, 21 April 2007 23:10 (eighteen years ago)

The Lamb is very strong until side 4, I think. The story is unsatisfactory, but then narrative arc in Prog concept albums is almost always rubbish: hi dere Olias of Sunhillow, Thick as a Brick etc etc. I don't think that's a big problem.

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 21 April 2007 23:13 (eighteen years ago)

Hardly news, considering the narrative in Mozart's operas was almost always rubbish too.

― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 22 April 2007 00:42 (eighteen years ago)

yeah but Steve Hackett is no Mozart

― Hans Rott, Sunday, 22 April 2007 01:55 (eighteen years ago)

Dunno. Mozart was a genius, Steve Hackett is a genius :)

― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

Never liked 'em much at all, I'm afraid. Except for a select handful of songs, I always found them wordy and tedious compared to Yes or Crimson or even ELP or Tull. That first live LP had the best song selection, but it's ineligible, of course. "Lamb" would be easier for me to si(f)t through if it weren't a double. And if the "story" weren't as pointless and incomprehensible. (Worse than "Lord Of The Rings", even.)

I guess I'll go with Foxtrot since it's got "Watcher of the Skies" and "Get 'em Out By Friday". Dunno if I'll ever be tempted to listen to "Supper's Ready" again, tho.

― Myonga Vön Bontee, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

Is the rest of Foxtrot as good as "Supper's Ready?"

― Sundar, Sunday, 22 April 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

"Get'em Out By Friday" is great at least. Even though "Supper's Ready" is my favourite Genesis moment I still go for "Selling England" as the overall stronger album though.

― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 22 April 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

Is the rest of Foxtrot as good as "Supper's Ready?"

"Watcher of the Skies" is a classic for sure

― Hans Rott, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

Foxtrot is probably gonna be my pick.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

Even though "Supper's Ready" is my favourite Genesis moment I still go for "Selling England" as the overall stronger album though.

Geir, I may not agree with you on many things most of the time, but on this we might as well be conjoined brain twins.

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

the only weak part of "foxtrot" is "time table"

― akm, Sunday, 22 April 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

I like "Time Table". The weakest part of Foxtrot is bad "comedy" voices on "Get 'em Out by Friday".

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 22 April 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

See also: the twatting Slippermen.

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 22 April 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

"In Too Deep" is as slick and creepy as a Steely Dan song, every note falling into place with a kind of sickening predictability, and Phil Colilns turning into Michael McDonald for the falsetto bit.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 23 April 2007 02:59 (eighteen years ago)

"In Too Deep" has that annoying Yamaha CP which Tony Banks overused from the late 70s onwards.

― Geir Hongro, Monday, 23 April 2007 09:29 (eighteen years ago)

bump

― JN$OT, Thursday, 26 April 2007 08:14 (eighteen years ago)

So it's a draw between all three "canonical" choices then. :)

― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 26 April 2007 08:51 (eighteen years ago)

Those two votes for "Calling All Stations" attempts were obvious attempts to vote for the worse. They failed, though, as "Calling All Stations" is considerably better than "We Can't Dance".

― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 26 April 2007 08:52 (eighteen years ago)

666!
I voted Foxtrot, btw

― marmotwolof, Thursday, 26 April 2007 08:54 (eighteen years ago)

I suggested that peeps vote "Calling All Stations" as the "I Hate Genesis" option. Surely to God that's the only reason anybody'd vote for it.

― Noodle Vague, Thursday, 26 April 2007 08:58 (eighteen years ago)

Hopefully nobody seriously picked "We Can't Dance" as his actual favourite. That album is sooooo much worse than anything else they've done.

― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 26 April 2007 09:49 (eighteen years ago)

i'm surprised that trick didn't get any votes. well I guess maybe no-one thinks it's the best, but it's up there

― akm, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)

I vote for the album with "Domino."

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:12 (eighteen years ago)

"Selling England" by a nose over "Foxtrot." Has anyone seen the greatest fake Genesis band in the universe, The Musical Box? I swear there's no way the Genesis reunion gigs, even if Gabriel were performing, could ever be half as good as those guys are.

― ellaguru, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

My mate and his brother seen them loads. They say they are amazingly good.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

So, "All but Phil Collins with the singing" won!

― Mark G, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

I missed this but would have voted for Selling England. It's even more epic than Lamb Lies Down even though it's half as long. And epic in this case of course means good.

― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

Dance on a Volcano is such a jam its silly.

― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 01:39 (fifteen years ago)

nine years pass...

^yes. the first pre-1980 Genesis I ever heard.

omg who the fuck voted for Calling All Stations.

― Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 00:35 (five years ago)

one year passes...

Foxtrot has always been my number one, but I got Nursery Cryme on CD and it's totally kicking my ass right now

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 October 2021 19:41 (four years ago)

so good. "Return of the Giant Hogweed" and "Musical Box" are my favorites

― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 October 2021 19:45 (four years ago)

how the fuck did CAS get more votes than Trick/Wind/Duke/Abacab?

― akm, Thursday, 21 October 2021 19:46 (four years ago)

the same way "Fetus" won Nas's Lost Tapes poll

― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 October 2021 19:47 (four years ago)

honestly the only explanation I can come up with is Ray Wilson and a Ray Wilson sockpuppet

― frogbs, Thursday, 21 October 2021 20:40 (four years ago)

A Trick Of The Tail didn't deserve zero votes - it's the only Collins-era album that I would hold up as a great album. Wind And Wuthering is pretty good but a lesser and uneven album to me.)

― birdistheword, Thursday, 21 October 2021 20:45 (four years ago)

Trick of the Tail was my third Genesis album (following Live: The Way We Walk, Part 1-The Shorts, and Abacab), and I loved it then and still love it now. "Dance on a Volcano" rules.

― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 October 2021 20:48 (four years ago)

"Seven Stones" is the underrated track on Nursery Cryme, it's more compact and direct than the three epics, but more developed than the three shortest songs.

― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 22 October 2021 00:17 (four years ago)

Seven Stones is hardly amazing but I reckon it's their finest mellotron moment

― PaulTMA, Friday, 22 October 2021 12:11 (four years ago)

Trick of the Tail is great but I suspect its one of those where it's a lot of people's 3rd or 4th favorite

― frogbs, Friday, 22 October 2021 14:53 (four years ago)

I suspect the Calling All Stations votes were bc of this:

Anybody who wants to choose "I don't like Genesis" could just vote for Calling All Stations featuring TV's Ray Winstone.

― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 22 October 2021 14:57 (four years ago)

Seven Stones is hardly amazing but I reckon it's their finest mellotron moment

Better than the intro to Watcher of the Skies?

― dinnerboat, Friday, 22 October 2021 15:34 (four years ago)

ayeee

― PaulTMA, Friday, 22 October 2021 17:01 (four years ago)

It's not the most flashy Mellotron usage, but I love the flutes after the "Broadway Melody" reprise in "Lilywhite Lilith".

This thread starting me thinking about Genesis 1970-1974:

Best song: "Firth of Fifth" or "Cinema Show"
Worst song: "Counting Out Time" or "White Mountain"
Overrated songs: "The Knife", "Watcher of the Skies"
Underrated songs: "Dusk", "Seven Stones", "Time Table", "Hairless Heart"

― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 22 October 2021 17:43 (four years ago)

Clearly you are a fan of alliterative titles.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 October 2021 17:55 (four years ago)

1970-74

Best Phil: Cinema Show
Best Mike: Fountain of Salmacis
Best Tony: Riding the Scree
Best PG: Back in NYC
Best Steve: Hogweed

― dinnerboat, Friday, 22 October 2021 18:05 (four years ago)

the long ending of "Cinema Show" is so nice, only thing that really reminds me of it is "Neon Lights" by Kraftwerk

― frogbs, Friday, 22 October 2021 18:32 (four years ago)

alliterative titles

Seems you're right! Yet I ignored "Carpet Crawlers".

Best Mike: Fountain of Salmacis

Never paid much conscious attention to the bass on this one, but I can call it up from memory and it is excellent.

― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 22 October 2021 19:10 (four years ago)

Back In NYC is musically primarily a Mike song, just 15 years before The Living Years

― PaulTMA, Friday, 22 October 2021 19:14 (four years ago)

Every generation
Blames Mike Rutherford

― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 October 2021 19:29 (four years ago)

Always thought this was an inspired, ambitious cover:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubYDPqi6ht4

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 October 2021 20:56 (four years ago)

Did Rutherford really write the music to Back in NYC? I didn't realize that, Id assumed it was a Gabriel composition because it doesn't really sound much like anything else Genesis were doing at that time (it's much more modern sounding) and Gabriel did perform it on his first few solo tours. It's my favorite Genesis track (just edging out Carpet Crawlers).

― akm, Friday, 22 October 2021 21:26 (four years ago)

I suspect the Calling All Stations votes were bc of this:

Anybody who wants to choose "I don't like Genesis" could just vote for Calling All Stations featuring TV's Ray Winstone.

― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 22 October 2021 15:57 (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i've always assumed that's what those votes mean

― look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 October 2021 22:06 (four years ago)

"Back in NYC", with the 12-string guitar over the pedal bass, is similar to "Squonk" on the next album, also mostly written by Rutherford

― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 23 October 2021 02:46 (four years ago)

The song originated from Mike for sure... The vocal melody is probably Peter's though. You can hear the similarity in this one from Mike's first solo album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weI6qSg9OOE

― PaulTMA, Sunday, 24 October 2021 15:26 (four years ago)

very credible-sounding thread on Who Wrote What:
https://www.genesis-news.com/forum/index.php?thread/129-who-wrote-what/&pageNo=1

― PaulTMA, Sunday, 24 October 2021 22:23 (four years ago)


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