anyone hear like pearl jam?

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yeah you came here ready to hate but wait

when i was in high school i was literally the only person in my class who listened to rock music but was not a fan (i went to a small high school). the love for them was strong & so unanimous that i eventually felt the need to publicly & sincerely push the backstreet boys as worthier artists (which they are) but this just got me laughed at.

what im wondering is, will any of you music nerds rep for vedder & co?


the contrast here makes me realize how completely you exit reality once you enter a message board

deeznuts, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

I was surprised by how much I enjoyed the s/t album from last year. I think I actually like it more than the older songs I still hear on the radio.

Sundar, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

Sundar otm.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

It's one thing to call 'em bad, but DEAF? Gimme a break.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

There are a few Pearl Jam threads and fans on "hear". I liked them back in the day, but I worked similarly in my teens against the love for RHCP instead.

the next grozart, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

the here/hear typo was actually completely unintentional although i did consider liek/like

deeznuts, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

They had some good big choruses back in the day. They were always my least favourite of the grunge 'big four', though. If Nirvana drew from punk, Soundgarden from stoner rock and psychadelia and AIC from metal, they drew from really boring music your dad liked.

chap, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

the thread title is a delicious pun

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

and no i'm not still partial to pearl jam, though they were my favourite band when i was 10.

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

How am I supposed to take this query seriously w/o the "IN THIS BITCH" tag?

PappaWheelie V, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

Well Ten was a pretty decent record. Asking if the band deserved the status they had however, naaah.

the Dirt, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

ok but for me its not like this was some kind of reactionary bullshit, i geniunely think theyre terrible & would honestly enjoy eating eddie vedders brains

deeznuts, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

I can't believe folks still rep for Ten at the expense of their other albums.

David R., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

just to qualify what i said earlier, i don't entirely dislike them. all of their records have a couple of strong moments. but in more recent years in particular, they've really put a lot of stock in guitars and vox sounding "organic" and "rugged" on disc and a lot of it sounds pretty woeful.

vitalogy features some of their very best moments, i'd say: 'tremor christ', 'corduroy', 'immortality', all that

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

I recall thinking Tremor Christ was amazing, haven't heard it for over a decade though.

chap, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

Ten's the only album I've heard start to finish

the Dirt, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

I love the heck out of Ten. As much as Eddie Vedder's bellowing got old after the millionth time you heard Jeremy on the radio, Gossard, Ament, and McCready brought innovative, soulful classic rock back to the mainstream.

Actually, the first time I heard Alive on 120 minutes I really hated it. I heard it again about a week later and immediately went out and bought it, forking over the whole extra $5 for a CD instead of a standard cassette. Bold move for a kid with a $5 a week allowance.

I think Ten still measures up. Some of the songs from the subsequent albums are classic too, although they seemed to try and gain indie cred by turning in a few half-baked numbers too. Either that or they were just too tired to produce well after all the relentless touring. Porbably a little of both.

They also cleared the way for dudes to like records that were pink, which cleared the way for me to get into MBV, Wire, and the Band, as my musical tastes progressed. : P

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

the ten booklet folded out into that poster. that was pretty rad

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:21 (eighteen years ago)

Gossard, Ament, and McCready brought innovative, soulful classic rock back to the mainstream.

This is probably why a lot of ILM'ers hate them, even though they would have hated them more if they weren't innovative nor soulful either.

As for me, I am pretty much indifferent, as I feel their songs didn't work. I have the same problem with Pearl Jam as I do with The Smiths, as I feel the melodies are way too dependent on pre-existing riffs or chords, and seem too improvised without the neccessary ear for musical "sentence building" and a proper melodic buildup from verse to chorus etc.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:00 (eighteen years ago)

I like them. Didn't care much for the past few albums though. 1st 5? are good though.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

Vedder's voice is a kind of dealbreaker for me, but a few of their songs are undeniably well-written. Most of those, I think, reside on Vitalogy.

Erroneous Botch, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:08 (eighteen years ago)

Vitalogy and No Code were the 2 best ones I think. Still love Ten and Vs but I guess a bit overplayed.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:09 (eighteen years ago)

Ten is their most, I guess, "metal" record, which is why I like it a lot. I'm not saying that it is metal, but it's definitely their hardest rocking. I didn't like anything else by them for the longest time, but recently I listened to my copy of Vs. again, and actually enjoyed it quite a bit. I picked up Vitalogy for a buck a couple weeks ago, haven't gotten around to listening to it yet. I mean, they're a perfectly fine rock band, but nothing spectacular. I don't get the people that collected all those live bootlegs they put out and get all obsessed, but I don't get why people do that with most bands (my former roommate LOVED Red Hot Chili Peppers to a pretty disturbing extent, collecting every single piece of silicon and vinyl they ever released and even kind of stalking the band).

Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:12 (eighteen years ago)

I have the same problem with Pearl Jam as I do with The Smiths, as I feel the melodies are way too dependent on pre-existing riffs or chords,

I know better, but, Geir, you don't listen to much music, do you?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:16 (eighteen years ago)

he doesn't listen to music, he listens to MELODIES

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

Fuck Ten - it was okay I guess, but it was quite dull at the end of the day. Pearl Jam were best at their weirdest, which is why I agree that Vs, Vitalogy and No Code were the best. A lot of people think of PJ as a really straight-up classic rock band, but this is quite far from the truth. By the time they'd got to No Code they were doing some pretty out-there stuff.

the next grozart, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:26 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

for some reason, i own all of their albums, except for the one with the avacado on the cover. i'm not sure why i own them, but i do. so i'm going to listen to all of them, starting right now, with ten.

wish me luck.

funny farm, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 05:21 (eighteen years ago)

you'll need all the luck in the world to get through all of them, track after track. that's what i found anyway when i undertook the same task.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 06:21 (eighteen years ago)

i still think vs, vitalogy and no code are all gravy, and the other albums have their moments.

stevie, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 12:12 (eighteen years ago)

they were gods to me when i was 16. when i got to interview them, aged 25, less so, but it was still a trip. they're still pretty wonderful live too, they do the stadium-sincerity thing well.

stevie, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 12:13 (eighteen years ago)

Go back to the Nineties, y'all.

King Boy Pato, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 12:32 (eighteen years ago)

what's so good about vs?

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 12:42 (eighteen years ago)

I still appreciate them for what they do best, which is straight up halfway catchy hard rock. They get into trouble when they think they're more than that. And despite me not really listening to their stuff that frequently any more, they have some great anthemic songs. Plus they were the openers of one of the best live shows I've ever seen, which was Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, and Red Hot Chili Peppers in December 1991.

MC, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 12:44 (eighteen years ago)

what's so good about vs?

A: Rearviewmirror

MC, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 12:46 (eighteen years ago)

Great band, although it's easy and fashionable to tool on them. Best record for me is Yield, although their best songs are on Vitalogy.

Ten has some great songs, but the production ruins them for me. It sounds like Eddie's singing in a grain silo...so much reverb.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

i think his best vocal performance is on ten, actually. the most emotive and focused, in any case

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

I still think they got better with each album. I haven't heard the one released in 2000, but last year's s/t was surprisingly, thrillingly straightforward, angry, and relevant.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

Weird, I think the self-titled album is awful and they've been on an increasingly steep downward slide since Yield.

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

I don't get all this talk of a downward slide since No Code or Yield (depending on who you ask), I think Binaural was the nadir and they've been on a steady rise since.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

hmmm... i dunno, i just find it a bit of a chore to listen to anything by these lads these days, even the stuff i really used to like

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

even Eddie's looking hotter these days.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

Binaural was very hit and miss, but I loved the hits. The last two albums sound to me like they've hit an aesthetic dead end and more or less stopped all the akward thrashing around and experimenting that used to provide their best and worst moments in equal measure. If they'd just settled into workmanlike anthemic Vs.-type material that would be fine, but instead it's all kind of drab and flat and I really hate Vedder's mushmouth on the last album.

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

"World Wide Suicide" was mushmouthed? "Umemployable" wasn't workmanlike anthemic?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

'mushmouth' is generally otm as far as vedder goes these days. what frustrates me is that, he's a great singer when he's not sounding deliberately careless.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

Pearl Jam had good singles but none of the uptempo numbers would've passed muster as anthemic on the first 5 albums. "Unemployable" was one of the songs I listened to over and over trying to figure out what the fuss was about and I can't even remember what it sounds like now.

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

i listened to ten and vs., last night. ten actually held up in that "hey, remember the 90's?!" sort of way. scores a 6 out of 10.

i expected vs. to be better. but guess what, it wasn't. 4 out of 10.

funny farm, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

they don't seem to be much more than a pretty simple rock 'n' roll band to me these days. that's all good and well, but i'm in pursuit of more interesting music.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

listening to vitalogy, now. digging much more than the last two.
does spin the black circle rawk or what??!

funny farm, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

finished vitalogy. 7 out of 10.

i just don't have it in me to listen to no code, tonight. even though i remember it being my fave pj album.

funny farm, Thursday, 9 August 2007 01:42 (eighteen years ago)

four years pass...

Pearl Jam Twenty, the Cameron Crowe documentary, is on PBS tonight. Or this weekend sometime. Depends on where ya live.

encarta it (Gukbe), Friday, 21 October 2011 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

thanks for the heads up, i'm watching it now thanks to your post!!

some dude, Saturday, 22 October 2011 01:53 (fourteen years ago)

Recording this, pretty anxious to see it. The soundtrack is pretty great.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Saturday, 22 October 2011 02:46 (fourteen years ago)

had company over so i only ended up seeing about half of it, but it was pretty cool from what i saw.

some dude, Saturday, 22 October 2011 03:00 (fourteen years ago)


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