How to decipher album review star ratings

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Stolen wholesale from an anonymous poster on www.recordoftheday.com/mb:

XXXXX in The Fly = third on the bill at Reading and probably from Wales. Or somehwere along the M62.

10 on Pitchfork = drivelling arty unlistenable crap

***** in UNcut = Lambchop

xxxxx in Q = the Greatest ALbum Ever Made, see also back cover

*****in The Sun = pretty good record

XXXXX in MOJO = good record, although might feature the luscious widdly textures of Fourtet strongly

full page review in PLAN B = a very drunk and justifiably angry woman screaming through a letter box, while a listless man tries to force a violin through the same slot in the other direction recorded from the boot of a car parked a quarter of a mile away

CharlieNo4, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

is this accurate? some of it, certainly.

CharlieNo4, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

I am wondering whether to be cheesed off that Stylus is not on that list, if only because it makes us bedfellows with NME.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know how true the planB one is, but reading it made me laugh. Thank-you.

I know, right?, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:39 (eighteen years ago)

If even reviewed in dustedmagazine.com you've likely never even heard of it.

ellaguru, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:49 (eighteen years ago)

10 on Pitchfork; isn't this more guitars, drum machine, vintage synths, retro-futuristic indie produced by Nigel Godrich? Aproxxximately

I know, right?, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:52 (eighteen years ago)

Lambchop have made some good records

admrl, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:52 (eighteen years ago)

I know, right?

I know, right?, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

six years pass...

i've come to the conclusion that I don't generally end up liking "5 star" or 10.0 albums. all my favorite albums from recent years get middling reviews. When I look up my favorite recent albums on metacritic, they're all like 60-80 rated albums. maybe because they're more polarizing?

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 15:22 (eleven years ago)

Usually, when I'm reading up on an album I don't know anything about, I will first seek out user reviews with 2.5-4 star ratings -- it takes no effort to rate something 5 stars or 0 stars, because it just means you really love it or really hate it. To write a review, and then rate it 3.5 stars usually means you had to think about it, and consider stuff you liked and disliked. This mainly applies to user reviews (as opposed to published criticism), and goes for pretty much anything (music, movies, yelp reviews, etc). Haha I am a nerd.

Dominique, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 15:30 (eleven years ago)

well, with yelp and amazon 5 i avoid five star ratings because it says nothing so much to me as "friend of the owner/author". (this is why i give all my friends' books 4/5 star reviews, ha ha.) music it's different, and frankly i tend to assume star ratings are assigned by a machine putting them into a modified poisson distribution and ignore them. that said the most interesting star rating to me is 3.5, which says to me "interesting but flawed". the worst is 2.5, which says to me "interesting but terrible".

rushomancy, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 18:00 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, Amazon user reviews are utterly worthless. Just think of any album released in the last forty years, look it up on Amazon, and I can almost guarantee that it will be between 4-5 stars. 90% of the reviews were by fans, 10% trolls.

To add to above:
***** in Rolling Stone = friends of Jann Wenner

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Saturday, 22 March 2014 13:00 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ16hCYBVZA

austinato (Austin), Saturday, 22 March 2014 13:38 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

More translations plz!

I do wonder whether a "shorthand" version of a star rating can shed more light on a record than the full review did, sometimes.

Also, since 5 stars aren't always a reliable mark of greatness, are there any publications where an artist would prefer to get a 1-star review? (e.g. annoying the 'right' people)

It would be interesting to find out who was the first to develop ratings in music writing. Presumably they originated out of film/theatre ratings?

It's all just a bit of fun in the end, mostly inconsequential. Competition has always been a part of music. But I hope the point-scoring won't go too far and turn music into sports. Like, if fools started posting their bullshit monthly "power rankings" of rappers Oh Christ, they've started already. Or if someone made a Hall of Fame to show which rock star is the best quarterback, that would also be stupid.

The best description that I've seen in a rating system was (ironically) a sports one, years ago. Match magazine did reviews of soccer stadiums, in early-1990s Britain. So the lowest grade of 1 really did mean, avoid the place at all costs... Up to the highest grade, 10: "No one gets 10".

Apparently ILM has covered this once or twice in the past.

Perfect 10 on Pitchfork
Best and worst album reviews on Allmusic
why do writers like Matthew Murphy at Pitchfork always review my favorite records and never rate them outside of the 7-7.9 realm?
Best Album Rated 10.0 by Pitchfork Media Upon Its Initial Release
Vote for the Best Album of the Decade (from rateyourmusic.com top 50)
www.rateyourmusic.com C/D? (Geir's top 1,000 sadly offline)
Most positive/negative AMG writers
In which we point out instances of Allmusic changing their ratings from what they originally were
Should an album review justify its rating? Or vice versa?
conclusive proof that allmusic's "rating system" is flawed BULLSHIT
Stylusmagazine.com now grading like school reports

flyingtrain (sbahnhof), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 05:39 (ten years ago)

four years pass...

I used to think Star0stin's Only Solitaire rating system was overly convoluted, but that was before I came across this mind-bender while searching reviews of the new Caribou:

https://tapedeckpodcast.com/the-spectreview-color-rating-system/

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 6 March 2020 22:36 (five years ago)

Four days later and I'm still thinking about how convoluted this system is.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:50 (five years ago)

Convoluted to you.
But to all those tapedeckpodcast.com natives, they just intuitively know that yellow means...

(give me 15 minutes to parse that system and I'll get back to you about yellow)

enochroot, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 14:31 (five years ago)

Hmmm

3. Remember that these ratings are never completely free of the reviewer’s opinion.

enochroot, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 14:33 (five years ago)


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