Best Song on "Abbey Road"

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Hmmm...could be interesting, as there could be some variety. For me, it would be a toss-up between "Here Comes the Sun" and "Golden Slumbers", but I'm going with the former.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
I Want You (She's So Heavy) 18
You Never Give Me Your Money 16
Something 14
Here Comes the Sun 13
Golden Slumbers 8
Because 7
Come Together 6
She Came in through the Bathroom Window 5
Sun King 2
Carry That Weight 2
The End 1
Maxwell's Silver Hammer 1
Octopus' Garden 1
Polythene Pam 1
Mean Mr. Mustard 1
Oh! Darling 1
Her Majesty1


Joe, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I see Golden Slumbers and Carry That Weight as one song and would vote for that but I cannot.

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

For me, there's one song on this list that just totally dominates all the oth

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

...shot down before he has a chance to tell us

Billy Pilgrim, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

jesus i havent listened to any beatles recs in years but this is so far & away their worst isnt it?

'something' i guess

deeznuts, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

definitely 'golden slumbers' for me, although the biggest beatle fan i know claims that 'her majesty' is his favorite song, ever.

poortheatre, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

No, it's their best.

I voted for 'You Never Give Me Your Money' for having one of the most gorgeous intros in the history of music.

chap, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

"Maxwell's Silver Hammer"

John Justen, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

far and away not their best. and i assume pleasant plains was about to say "something" before he was tragically shot down, as, yes, this album was george harrison's finest moment.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, "You Never Give Me Your Money" is at least #2 for me. I'm going to listen to it now.

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's their best album, but I can't say which is the best song.

Nathan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Um, "Golden Slumbers," no question about it...

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

you never give me your money, easy.

akm, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link

the macca love continues and grows.

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I got the joke, PP.

My answer is "Something."

Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Damn, I want to give "Because" the props it deserves, but I have to go with "Something", even though at this point I could probably never hear it again and be fine. He had his low points like anyone else, but Harrison really nailed it with "Something" and "Long, Long, Long", didn't he?

Z S, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Minus a couple of early mehs ("Don't Bother Me" and "I Need You"), George's BTLS output was almost uniformly stellar.

Davey D, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to see how many votes She's So Heavy gets, because it's great and often overlooked.

chap, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Xpost
That's true, but you also have to remember that even though George had a ton of songs (3LP All Things Must Pass), especially near the end of the Beatles, he wasn't allowed the space that John and Paul were. So, pretty much any George song that appeared on a Beatles album had to be the cream of his crop, sort of a Greatest Hit.

Z S, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost: PP, oh I get the joke now too! nice. I voted ...Money though

Billy Pilgrim, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

side b

PappaWheelie V, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder how much he was denied access on the albums. "Long Long Long" was one of the Greatest Hits he had ca. the White Album? (I mean, I like the song, but...) Did he try to get any other songs on Abbey Road?

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

As far as I see it, I think it's between "She's So Heavy" and "You Never Give Me...", but narrowing it down is pretty tough with the George songs on there. That solo in "Something" is fantastic.

Damn, I guess I have to go with the Paul tune on this one...voting "You never give..."

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I want to vote for the segue from "Polythene Pam" and "She Came in Through the Bathroom Window" because it's my favorite part of the album. No dice, so "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" it is.

Ivan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, I love "Long Long Long"! It's one of my faves on the White Album. I've read/heard that he was denied space on the albums a LOT on the later albums, even though he had the material. Apparently he wasn't give much space on the mid-period albums because he was just beginning to write songs, and his material wasn't quite up to par yet. I also remember reading that John and Paul didn't really help him write songs to the extent that they often assisted each other, so he suffered in that was as well, by not being part of the Lennon/McCartney club.

Z S, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i have been told before that i look like george harrison, which, while completely untrue, i appreciate because he was without question the best looking beatle

if anyone disputes this i encourage you to say so so that this thread may become more interesting

deeznuts, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i like it too, but its presence does call into question whether he had a wealth of material at that point and was being shut out. i know they attempted "not guilty" at those sessions, too, and it didn't make the album.

again, though, what else did he offer for abbey road? the picture of him you paint is kind of victim-like and i question it.

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I don't get the joke. Care to let a 6'1" blonde Beatle fan in on the fun?

Finefinemusic, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

again, though, what else did he offer for abbey road? the picture of him you paint is kind of victim-like and i question it.

Tim, have you read the Geoff Emerick book yet? I'm this close to starting a thread on it, but only if others have read the thing... there's a lot of astoundingly frank talk from candid Geoff about the power dynamics within the band, but it came be summed up as: George was always the little brother

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:11 (seventeen years ago) link

came / can, crikey

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Haven't read it. Say more?

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Emerick is quite condescending. No way do I think George was ever as great as John/Paul, but he wasn't sitting around waiting to be told what to do.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a funny bit in the anthology when Paul says something like "George was 2 or 3 years younger than the rest of us" to which which George responds "Actually it's only 9 months".

everything, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

"Here Comes the Sun" dammit

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

GEORGE WAS TEH HOTTESTT!

Davey D, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

there's a funny bit in many years from now where paul talks about how when they were young he once introduced george to a friend of his and george headbutted him.

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a George quote from 1971 that says "To get a peaceful life I always let Paul have his own way, even when it meant that my songs weren't recorded. But I was having to record Paul's songs and put up with him telling me how to play my own guitar".

I'm pulling this from The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Beatles, which is a little embarassing, but in reference to the Beatles breakup, it says "Artistically he continued to feel that Paul adopted a condescending attitude towards him, and that John really wasn't interested in recording any 'Harrisongs'. Certainly there are two sides to every story - in the Beatles' case there were often four - but there does appear to have been some justification for George feeling short-changed. John was noticeably absent from many of the latter sessions involving the youngest Beatle's compositions."

Z S, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course, if George walked up to me and said "hay guyz wanna record some Harrisongs?" I'd probably decline the offer, too.

Z S, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, you can't buy all of Geoff's harsh view of George, but I think it does represent a lot of how George was treated within the group. He describes the time needed to record his songs & solos as trying the patience of all involved, considered secondary to nailing Paul & John's songs -- a lot of page time is spent talking about how he needed hours to work the mistakes out of his guitar solos at everyone's expense. Then he turns around and describes the hours Paul needed to meticulously record & re-record his bass parts as evidence of Paul's brilliant perfectionism. Once a kid brother, always a kid brother, until you leave the house -- he was saving up songs & commercially strongest out of the gate right after the breakup.

Despite Geoff's occasional wankery he's a likeable guy. The book goes through the albums track by track in a chatty, anecdotal form -- the technical descriptions are leavened by recollections of the various moods & crowds in the studio, the power dynamics between the team, how many drugs & which ones on which tracks, who didn't get along with who at which times. It's the human side of the 'Recording the Beatles' book (which is much more about hard core techhead descriptions of the gear & recording workflow).

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link

But John's squirming is more honest than Paul's disgusting cheer. I love what John said about helping George with "Taxman" -- I didn't want to do it. I thought, Oh, no, don't tell me I have to work on George's stuff. It's enough doing my own and Paul's. But because I loved him and I didn't want to hurt him when he called that afternoon and said, "Will you help me with this song?" I sort of bit my tongu eand said OK.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

But who wouldn't want to help out with Taxman?

I voted for Something, but I think there are several acceptable answers. I don't think this is their best or worst album, but I know several folks who think it's their best.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

It's probably the one that sounds worst on CD anyway.

C. Grisso/McCain, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

the early albums all sound worse than this. in fact I think it's probably the cd that sounds the best

akm, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

As much as I love "Something," I have to go with "I Want You (She's So Heavy)," because.... well, just because.

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

I really can't stand "I Want You..." I went with "Bathroom Window", though the "Slumberss/Carry that Weight/the End" combo would take my vote if it could.

Bill Magill, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

"Something" is one of the best Beatles songs ever. It has to be "Something", even though there are 3-4 other really great tracks in there too.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Regarding George, I don't think he had a lot of songs ready for "Abbey Road" other than the two masterpieces that are included there.

But "Not Guilty" I often tend to include when asked to turn The White Album into a great single album. That one is a great song, and I cannot believe that downright rubbish such as "Revolution #9", "Helter Skelter", "Yer Blues" and "Good Night" was picked rather than that one.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Yer Blues = Ultiswagger

PappaWheelie V, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

good night is great! it's a beautiful song. the orchestra is a bit much but the tune is lovely

akm, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Even now I like the Beatles I don't like this album much - some lovely moments though, but "You Never Give Me Your Money" is way way ahead: only one that makes me feel anything much. ("Something" and "Here Comes The Sun" #2 and #3)

Groke, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

"Her Majesty"
Main article: Her Majesty (song)

"Her Majesty", tacked on the end, was originally part of the side two medley, appearing between "Mean Mr. Mustard" and "Polythene Pam". McCartney disliked the way the medley sounded when it included "Her Majesty", so he had the medley re-edited to remove it. However, second engineer John Kurlander had been instructed never to throw out anything, so after the group left the recording studio that day, he picked it up off the floor, spliced 14 seconds of red leader tape onto the final mix reel, and then spliced in "Her Majesty" immediately after the leader tape. The box of the album's master reel had a notation stating to leave "Her Majesty" off the final product, but the next day when Malcolm Davies at Apple received the tape, he (also trained not to throw anything away) cut a playback lacquer of the whole sequence, including "Her Majesty". The Beatles liked this effect and left it on the album. On the first printing of the LP cover, "Her Majesty" is not listed, although it is shown on the record label. "Her Majesty" opens with the final, crashing chord of "Mean Mr. Mustard", while the final note of "Her Majesty" remained buried in the mix of "Polythene Pam". This was the result of "Her Majesty" being snipped off the reel during a rough mix of the medley. The cut in the medley was subsequently disguised with further mixing although "Her Majesty" was not touched again and still appears in its rough mix.

*⁂((✪⥎✪))⁂* (Steve Shasta), Friday, 18 September 2009 05:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I never really liked "Something" but then I heard the Anthology version and I began to appreciate it. Anthology version > Abbey Road version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40yFvJujNzg

musically, Friday, 18 September 2009 05:07 (fifteen years ago) link

That trivia about "Her Majesty" is strange considering "Mean Mr Mustard" was extended to include the part about "sister Pam" .. but then again it actually makes sense because she "takes him out to look at the Queen" which in that case would lyrically work well segueing into "Her Majesty."

billstevejim, Friday, 18 September 2009 06:24 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

huh had never thought of the lyrics to Come Together as being about each of the individual Beatles (verse 1 is George, 2 is Macca, 3 Lennon, 4 Ringo) but kinda funny to think about.

Here come old flattop he come grooving up slowly
He got joo-joo eyeball he one holy roller
He got hair down to his knee
Got to be a joker he just do what he please

He wear no shoeshine he got toe-jam football
He got monkey finger he shoot coca-cola
He say "I know you, you know me"
One thing I can tell you is you got to be free
Come together right now over me

He bag production he got walrus gumboot
He got Ono sideboard he one spinal cracker
He got feet down below his knee
Hold you in his armchair you can feel his disease
Come together right now over me

He roller-coaster he got early warning
He got muddy water he one mojo filter
He say "One and one and one is three"
Got to be good-looking 'cause he's so hard to see
Come together right now over me

mark roflr (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 27 February 2010 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link

yes I can see that one.

Mark G, Saturday, 27 February 2010 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

McCartney, shoeless, snorting coke

mark roflr (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 27 February 2010 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link

apparently

Mark G, Saturday, 27 February 2010 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I read this for the first time the other day too...v. inneresting

don't understand ringo's verse

iatee, Saturday, 27 February 2010 02:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Can't see him cos he's behind a drum kit?

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 27 February 2010 06:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Hold you in his armchair

lol

musically, Saturday, 27 February 2010 07:28 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Released in the UK 44 years ago today.

Dog Man Star took a suck on a pill... (Turrican), Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

I'm kind of amazed that an album so relatively devoid of obvious singles, every single song got at least one vote.

Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

'something' and 'come together' seem like obvious hits.

i would've gone with 'golden slumbers' or 'carry that weight,' which still sound as crushingly sad to me as ever.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

There's a little string cue that happens after the second "One there was a way to get back home" that always sends chills down my spine.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 September 2013 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

Carry that weight a personal favorite

Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Thursday, 26 September 2013 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, can't believe how much I agree with ilx in this poll

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Thursday, 26 September 2013 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

Pavement covered a lot of Beatles songs on the sly, huh? No Tan Lines = and yr bird can sing

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Thursday, 26 September 2013 23:59 (eleven years ago) link

Hold you in his armchair

lol

― musically, Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:28 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=191

This has one of the most commonly misheard lyrics in the history of popular music: "Hold you in his -armchair- you can feel his disease." It's actually "Hold you in his arms, yeah, you can feel his disease." All published sheet music had the "armchair" lyric, including the inner sleeve of the 1967-1970 compilation, which contained lots of other errors too, notably on "Strawberry Fields Forever." After John heard that his lyric was incorrect in the sheet music and other folios, he decided he liked "armchair" better and kept it. (thanks, Mark - London, England)

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 September 2013 00:38 (eleven years ago) link

i would've gone with 'golden slumbers' or 'carry that weight,' which still sound as crushingly sad to me as ever

You might like this rendition - I think it's pretty great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeOzNxh2TEU

Josefa, Friday, 27 September 2013 07:50 (eleven years ago) link

I always thought "arms, yeah" and was "really?" when I read the armchair yesterday.

Mark G, Friday, 27 September 2013 11:31 (eleven years ago) link

Thought it was "arms and" for years, myself

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 27 September 2013 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

four years pass...

huh. i think this is my favorite beatles record. sorry i’m getting reacquainted with the catalog after burning out on it in high school (thanks post-beatles poll)

the songs ppl hate i love or at least feel i can’t deny some aspect of them (ringo’s fills on “oh darling,” george’s solo on “octopus’ garden” like he’s so psyched to be playing on ringo’s song, literally everything paul plays on “i want you” is fucking insanely awesome and contributes to the song becoming such a rad dark spiral, “because” and “sun king” being such gentle cosmic yawns)

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Saturday, 2 June 2018 05:41 (six years ago) link

i don’t think i said anything nice about “maxwell’s” but i like it, it’s charming and the arrangement is cool. the rough runthrough in the let it be movie is so sweet

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Saturday, 2 June 2018 05:45 (six years ago) link

probably my favorite too, come together rules tbh

niels, Saturday, 2 June 2018 08:39 (six years ago) link

think it's the sonically most accomplished, lush recording they made

niels, Saturday, 2 June 2018 08:40 (six years ago) link

i have no problems with Maxwell's - you're right Brad, it's a fun little song and gets unnecessarily shat on

this was the closest they came to prog, i think. as i had my overdose of prog in the 70s, this is definitely not my fave beatles album.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 4 June 2018 09:45 (six years ago) link

Oh you mean the album, not "Maxwell" as such?

Mark G, Monday, 4 June 2018 09:51 (six years ago) link

This has been my favourite Beatles album, and one of my legit favourite albums of all time, since the moment I first heard it back when I was going through my first Beatles phase decades ago. I can still remember the first time I ever listened to this record - how much the production and overall sound seemed so much more warmer and fuller than previous Beatles work, and listening to all of those tracks in the medley fly by one after the other while gazing at that iconic sleeve. I remember the way every track, even the sillier songs on the record, had something about them that made me think "wow, what a neat idea" ... and the musicianship on the album is great: McCartney and Harrison in particular are bringing their "A game", but there's also some fine drumming from Ringo in places - no other drummer could have made those shifting time signatures on 'Here Comes The Sun' feel so natural. The harmonies on 'Because'! The moog synth on 'Maxwell's Silver Hammer'! The dark, circling chord progression on the outro to 'I Want You (She's So Heavy)', the way 'Sun King' segues into 'Mean Mr. Mustard' ... "and in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make" etc. Just great songwriting, great performances, great production, great album. It doesn't sound like the work of a band that are about the split up at all, rather the sound of a band that have hit upon a way to move forward in the '70s. Of course - as we all know - this didn't happen, and the Let It Be project gave a starker and more honest picture of the state of the band in late '68 to early '69.

Fortunately, anyone who likes this album will be able to find much to like about McCartney's '70s work (whether solo, with Linda and with Wings) as albums like Ram, Band on the Run and Venus and Mars feel like more of a continuation of Abbey Road than John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band or All Things Must Pass.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 11:12 (six years ago) link

i like it lots too, but in my head it's a bumpy ride. bumpier than even the White Album, which is strange considering a large part of it is structured so the songs flow into each other. despite all that, it feels less 'of a piece' than Peppers or Revolver or TWA, a sort of jumble of mad ideas. just feel like the jumps in mood and tone are so extreme that it can all feel a bit random. I don't like Mean Mr Mustard and Polythene Pam very much

Obviously, I disagree and find it their most cohesive album - undoubtedly far more so than Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band and Revolver, and it doesn't share the same flaws as The Beatles at all.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 11:30 (six years ago) link

Oh you mean the album, not "Maxwell" as such?

absolutely.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 4 June 2018 11:31 (six years ago) link

I get the proggiest vibes from 'I Want You (She's So Heavy)' ...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 11:40 (six years ago) link

Fortunately, anyone who likes this album will be able to find much to like about McCartney's '70s work (whether solo, with Linda and with Wings) as albums like Ram, Band on the Run and Venus and Mars feel like more of a continuation of Abbey Road than John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band or All Things Must Pass.

nah i think they're sort of all connected, especially george's record

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 4 June 2018 12:23 (six years ago) link

i mean pob is still an outlier but the line from "something" to all things must pass is an arrow

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 4 June 2018 12:25 (six years ago) link

In the sense that All Things Must Pass came out the year after 'Something', and quite a fair bit of the material was written around the same time (although some of it dates as far back as the Revolver era), yes. All Things Must Pass sounds very different to Abbey Road, though, particularly because of the Phil Spector production, the musicians involved and of course George's suddenly fully-formed slide work - Abbey Road to Ram is far less of a stretch, or Paul's contributions to The Beatles to the highlights of McCartney.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 12:49 (six years ago) link

Lennon hit upon a certain post-Beatles sound quite strongly characterises his work post-Abbey Road. You can hear a post-Beatles John Lennon solo track and not confuse it as being a late Beatles track, and it's pretty much the same with Harrison I think. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to hear 'Maybe I'm Amazed' as a Beatles song, or 'Jet' or 'You Gave Me Answer' etc.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 12:55 (six years ago) link

yes the production sounds different of course but the songwriting is still plotting a path toward '70s soft rock which began on abbey road

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 4 June 2018 13:13 (six years ago) link

Well yeah, it all plots a path towards "'70s soft rock", but that term is so broad that how could it not? It's also not what I was getting at!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 13:32 (six years ago) link

what you were getting at is that macca seems to carry forward the sound of abbey road more than the other two and i don’t really agree at all. lennon drew a line in the sand sure, but “hold on” could be on abbey road

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 4 June 2018 13:40 (six years ago) link

i also love macca and don’t think in particular his solo work survives the broad pressure of “continuing the sound of abbey road”

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 4 June 2018 13:42 (six years ago) link

The first solo album, McCartney is a strange one in that the approach is quite similar to some of his tracks on The Beatles such as 'Blackbird' or 'Why Don't We Do It In The Road?' (particularly on 'Junk', which was written for that album) yet 'Maybe I'm Amazed' wouldn't have sounded out of place on Abbey Road at all, especially in the 'Oh! Darling' spot. Yes, there are things that don't quite carry on from where Abbey Road left off, such as on Wild Life which is rawer than any Beatles recording, and Red Rose Speedway has the sound and the ideas (jamming unrelated songs together a la Abbey Road never really left McCartney) but not the songs. Ram, Band on the Run, Venus and Mars and the good bits of Wings at the Speed of Sound? Absolutely.

Of course another difference between McCartney's solo career vs. Lennon's and Harrison's is at least McCartney was still willing to try things that were new for him, vs. Lennon's "I like rock'n'roll and Yoko and that's really real and fuck all that pop-opera shit" approach and Harrison's "Mojo Magazine music" approach. That's a whole 'nother conversation though.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 13:55 (six years ago) link

what you were getting at is that macca seems to carry forward the sound of abbey road more than the other two and i don’t really agree at all. lennon drew a line in the sand sure, but “hold on” could be on abbey road

― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, June 4, 2018 1:40 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It could, but not in the way that Lennon did it. In the hands of The Beatles, I think it would have changed a fair bit - been given a fuller arrangement, and it would have been interesting to see what McCartney would have contributed. Something like 'Every Night' on the other hand, I can imagine ending up near enough the same, just better recorded and engineered.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:00 (six years ago) link

Songs like "I Found Out" aren't so far removed from "Come Together" or "Polythene Pam," just stripped of the psychedelic gauze. Paul taps the woozy stoner vibe of Abbey Road on e.g. "Long-Haired Lady."

dinnerboat, Monday, 4 June 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link

'I Found Out' would have been quite different in the hands of The Beatles, too, provided it had a cat in hell's chance of ever getting recorded by them. I could imagine McCartney hearing it and going "hmmm... no!" ...

Then again, McCartney wasn't a fan of John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:45 (six years ago) link

well he was wrong about that. also this is a dumb speculative exercise

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:47 (six years ago) link

yeah the lushness of ATMP marks a very obvious continuation. obviously spector makes it a different record than martin with heavy mccartney touches, but imo aside from the obvious development in his guitar arsenal, george's songwriting and preferred "sound" don't really change that much from the white album forward. "blow away" could be on abbey road easy. i'd say that both Ram and ATMP have a similar-but-different sound vis-a-vis abbey road: thick piled-up mixes, but both a little earthier/warmer/scratchier in their sounds. "uncle albert" maybe sounds a bit like the first half of the medley, and "back seat of my car" a little like the second half, but nothing on Ram is as polished and smooooth as the backing vocals on AR, the gauzey hush around john's lighter songs ("sun king," "because"). ram is a loose, shaggy kind of record, successfully working hard in the studio to convey a homemade all-hanging-out vibe. the absence of martin's meticulous tendency is as marked as the continuation of macca's whimsy and medley-istic maximalism. just as much as POB's stripped-down-iness is as marked as the continuation of john's doomy intensity on "come together" and "i want you."

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:15 (six years ago) link

that is absolutely otm

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:16 (six years ago) link

"blow away" could be on abbey road easy.

Yeah, I don't agree with this at all!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2018 15:19 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

After finishing tinkering with my White Album equivalent, I've done a first pass at Abbey Road in covers. It's notable how much contemporaneous stuff there is to work with compared with the White Album, and much of it of a piece. Was tempted to put Jessica Mitford's version of Maxwell's Silver Hammer on there (as Decca and the Dectones) but I don't think I could face listening to it more than once.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6hmt9EphRzRIfwldTnklUz?si=b9b726f5668c4070

Alba, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 14:04 (two years ago) link


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