Instances where your impeccable taste in music was mistaken for ignorance, soullessness, philistinism, etc.

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I took a sculpture class when I was studying abroad in Paris. The instructor, a sensual half-French, half-Mexican woman who was forced to sculpt with one hand due to chronic muscle strain, asked if anyone in the class happened to have any music with them. I couldn't remember exactly what I had in my backpack, but I suspected most of it wasn't suitable for the environment, so I didn't say anything. Class continued and the instructor insisted that someone had music with them, and that they should put it on. (I think it was the first day we were working with a nude model, and everyone in the studio, including the model, was noticeably reserved.) Finally, I mentioned that I had some music with me, and everyone encouraged me to put it on. I went to my backpack, and the most genial album I had with me was The Feelies' Crazy Rhythms. I started the album, turned the volume down, and went back to work. The next ten minutes were unbearable. No one said a word. I felt like I was performing my own music for a roomful of eager critics, and I couldn't help but interpret glances between the other students as tacit agreements that the music sucked. Finally, after the fourth track or so, the instructor, evidently reaching some kind of understated boiling point, said, "I'm sorry, but does anyone else have music with them?" There were a few murmurs of assent. Not even the kid with the Lode records shirt came to my defense. "Something with some melody or," despite the album's title, "rhythm? This is not conducive to the artistic process." Shamed, I turned the music off. Then some awful, unnourished, douche bag hippie put on the Beatles... After class, a girl from Southern California who happened to be an obsessive music message board reader said she liked it and felt bad for me, and we ended up hooking up a few weeks later.

Also in Paris, I woke up in bed with a Swedish girl I had met the night before who had come to my house with some of her friends for an impromptu party. Nothing all that serious had happened-- she had just been too drunk to go home (or realize that I was three inches her minor)-- so things weren't too awkward, but I don't think she remembered my name. She refused my offer of cereal, but did help me clean the apartment. She was looking at some CDs on my bookshelf and saw a copy of ABBA's Arrival. "Hey, ABBA! That is an awesome record," I told her. She was horrified. "They are, like, the worst band ever." I saw how, being Swedish, she probably grew up thinking of them the way I think of, say, David Hasselhoff, an entity apparently adored by other countries but ridiculed and maligned in its own. I explained that, really, I know that ABBA seemed corny, but they were actually one of the greatest bands ever, and that album was one of my personal favorites. She couldn't accept it. "I know that some things that aren't cool," she said, "people pretend to like them because they think that it will make them cool. ABBA isn't one of those things. They are not cool." I let it go, and we discussed the greatness of The Knife before she left... One of my friends started dating her best friend, so I saw her a few more times, but now I just semi-cyber-stalk her on MySpace. The current song on her profile is Orange Juice's "Falling and Laughing."

poortheatre, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link

One of my friends started dating her best friend, so I saw her a few more times, but now I just semi-cyber-stalk her on MySpace.

great way to end a post.
sometimes people think i'm joking when i talk about how much i love fleetwood mac, kate bush and yes.

ian, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 02:48 (seventeen years ago) link

One of my friends started dating her best friend, so I saw her a few more times, but now I just semi-cyber-stalk her on MySpace.

link?

gershy, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I remember telling an Israeli Psychic TV fan (back when I was really into Psychic TV) that I liked the Israeli singer Haim Moshe, and he was shocked and said how there was all this underground Israeli stuff blah blah blah, and if I were Israeli I wouldn't like Haim Moshe (if I like PTV), and so on.

("Israeli Psychic TV Fan" definitely needs to be a song title.)

x-post

haha, let's all stalk her.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:04 (seventeen years ago) link

er.. nah.

poortheatre, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, this happened to me in art classes as well. I put on Jobim and was accused of playing elevator music.

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:06 (seventeen years ago) link

http://movieimage3.tripod.com/savingryan/ryan34.jpg
that one.. i keep for myself.

poortheatre, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:07 (seventeen years ago) link

This kidn of thing happens in minor ways all the time.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 06:52 (seventeen years ago) link

"You DON'T LIKE Arcade Fire / Oasis / [ whoever]?! But you DO LIKE Embrace / Jackson Five / [whoever]?! You're just being deliberately weird."

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 06:54 (seventeen years ago) link

It happens to me a great deal. Though it's more that my philistinism is being mistaken for ignorance, if you see what I mean.

Groke, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 06:54 (seventeen years ago) link

You're just being deliberately weird.

yea, there seems to be three levels.

1) People who aren't jaded, and who are willing to listen to most kinds of music, because it's music and, like, why does does this band suck? (ex: my brother)

2) People who have some pretension to snobbery, however unjustified, and think that they have a decent idea, however untoward, of which bands are acceptable to like and which bands aren't. (ex: art school college freshmen)

3) People who have transcended or avoided #2 and who, for the most part, are willing to listen to most kinds of music with the understanding that it has something to offer, no matter how hard it is to discern initially. (ex: Sasha Frere-Jones / .05% of ILM)

poortheatre, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 07:05 (seventeen years ago) link

actually, #3 should include the caveat that all those people are just #2ers who learned to hide their contempt.

#4 is, like, John Cage or something.

poortheatre, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 07:07 (seventeen years ago) link

At an Ash gig a few weeks ago two kids behind us went "what are they playing this for?!" when I Want You Back came on the intro tape before Ash came on. I turned around and explained that it was totally the best song that had been on so far, and that it had the best bassline ever, blah blah, and they were like, "maybe, but even if that's true it doens't rock, why would a rock fan want to hear this?" to which all I could say was "it rocks more than Ash".

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 07:09 (seventeen years ago) link

You're a fucking idiot. (x-post)

You're a fucking idiot too.

everything, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 07:11 (seventeen years ago) link

..y'know, for talking to this original fucking idiot.

everything, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 07:14 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/images/issue/420/shimura-takashi_420.jpg
why hate thread?

poortheatre, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 07:27 (seventeen years ago) link

#4 is, like, John Cage or something.

-- poortheatre, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 07:07 (36 minutes ago)

VERRRRY accurate in my experience, though that's typically buried between 1 & 2, or 2 & 3.

circa1916, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 07:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I was thinking more about 'john cage in 90 minutes' like the oft-quoted.. "The first question I ask myself when something doesn't seem to be beautiful is why do I think it's not beautiful. And very shortly you discover that there is no reason."

poortheatre, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 07:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i've seen the John Cage through the art student lenses. still applicable in your context.

circa1916, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 08:04 (seventeen years ago) link

...and on the other side of the Cage lenses we find Winifred Atwell. It all makes sense.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 08:07 (seventeen years ago) link

ah, i thought you said VERRRRRYY inaccurate..

poortheatre, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 08:10 (seventeen years ago) link

har har

circa1916, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 08:11 (seventeen years ago) link

x-post

???

circa1916, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 08:18 (seventeen years ago) link

no, really.

poortheatre, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 08:21 (seventeen years ago) link

" "Something with some melody or," despite the album's title, "rhythm? This is not conducive to the artistic process." Shamed, I turned the music off..."

""I know that some things that aren't cool," she said, "people pretend to like them because they think that it will make them cool. ABBA isn't one of those things. They are not cool"

Welcome to my world!

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 08:27 (seventeen years ago) link

It happens all the time and like those Dostoevskij characters we love these humiliations.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 08:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Dostoyevsky, the original fucking idiot.

poortheatre, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 09:08 (seventeen years ago) link

is happened a couple of times, i just look at them and say "oh you are funny sometimes, i just cant work you out!"

600, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 09:15 (seventeen years ago) link

instances?

Ronan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 09:17 (seventeen years ago) link


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