most lyrical t.i. album

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fuck a beat what tip record got the best lyrics

Poll Results

Option	Votes
trap muzik	5
im serious	1
in da streets	0
in da streets 2	0
down with the king	0
urban legend	0
the indictment	0
25 to life	0
king	0

― and what, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

"most lyrical"

― The Reverend, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

Shit, this would be much easier if I paid more than cursory attention to lyrics.

― The Reverend, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

(Or had heard any of the mixtape shit.) (Or his first album.)

― The Reverend, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to avoid voting, but I do have to say that Urban Legend is mad underrated.

― The Reverend, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

how can you listen to rap and not pay attention to lyrics? that's just weird to me...

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

the only TI i have is some Leaders of the New South vol 4 mixtape, which i like a whole bunch.

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

honestly, sorry to triple post, but this is something i've always wondered, reverend...where you being serious? i see people say that on ILM all the time, like so blase, oh caring about lyrics is so dreadfully declasse, wouldn't you say old chum?

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

Because I find sounds much more interesting. I do pay attention to lyrics, I just don't force myself to. If they grab me, they grab me. If they don't, they don't. To be fair, I could rap most of teenage me's favorite albums at you verbatim.

(xp, kinda)

― The Reverend, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

It's not any "above it all" type of thing, my priorities w/r/t music listening have just changed a bit, that's all.

― The Reverend, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

I had no idea he had so many albums wtf all I know is the King

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

Some of those are "mixtapes", but he has four "official" "albums". (Delete scare quotes as necessary.)

― The Reverend, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

Urban Legend has a handful some of my favorite lyrical T.I. tracks (Prayin For Help, My Life) but it's a pretty scattershot album otherwise. i'm inclined to vote for Trap Muzik here although I'm not totally sure if it's the most lyrical or just the best.

-- Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, May 3, 2007 12:30 PM (8 minutes ago)

trap muzik is best, im serious most lyrical

― and what, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

which mixtape has the most lyrical phone call skits about lil flip

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

which album has most shitty pharrel beats

― and what, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

the only one that's really shitty is the one on Urban Legend! and arguably "what's yo name".

― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

i always hated the im serious beat

― and what, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

best song on im serious - 'do it'??

― and what, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

anybody else heard that david banner & ugk joint SUICIDE DOORS

― and what, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

btw tip said ti vs tip has got jigga & andre on it

― and what, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

trap muzik is best, im serious most lyrical

-- and what, Thursday, May 3, 2007 11:40 AM

yes

Excited for TI vs. TIP, hoping Dre cameo lives up to recent remix verses etc.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T86aeRZ1jQs

― deej, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

totally agree with Al about some of his best stuff being on Urban Legend - between ASAP and My Life its probably my favorite period for lyrical TIP

― deej, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

1) this guy is garbage
2) ya rite

― mrcs, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

yeah deej Urban Legend is my favorite by a good deal. Left off 'the leak', though there's not as much non-album stuff on there to chew on.

― tremendoid, Thursday, 3 May 2007 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

~~most lyrical t.i. album~~ Rolling Urban Legend Reassessment Thread.

― The Reverend, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:08 (eighteen years ago)

1 "Tha King" (Loftin/Harris/Simmons/Smith/McDaniels) 3:24
2 "Motivation" (Harris/Davis) 3:34
3 "U Don't Know Me" (Harris/Davis) 4:03
4 "ASAP" (Harris,/Holmes) 4:44
5 "Prayin For Help" (Harris/Wansel/Holmes/Biggs) 4:22

Justifies the album on its own.

― The Reverend, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:16 (eighteen years ago)

i like the joint with b.g.

― and what, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

the leak has maybe my fav non album tip joint 'do u remember'

― and what, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

i put my hand to the lord, yall record, i recall, thats how i know im better than yall

― and what, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

i am the only one that ~~likes~~loves the david banner track u_u

― strongohulkington, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

i like the joint with b.g.

What They Do!! << this is what i was going to say.

Several years ago I told myself I solemnly swear
Forever be hard to kill, even harder to scare
One reason why me and other cats is hard to compare
Cuz I'm fact, that's fiction, it hardly compares

the way he says "hardly" like "hhhhortly" and comes off all patrician, it's awesome

― gff, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

TI is so fit

― lex pretend, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

trap muzik like his reasonable doubt (what is ti:jay-z ??:d'evils/dead presidents II)

― Chromski A.K. Gattlington, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

whereas king was hottest ethically

― Chromski A.K. Gattlington, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

and 25 to life had the dopest chorus

― Chromski A.K. Gattlington, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

while t.i. vs. t.i.p. hottest conceptually

― Chromski A.K. Gattlington, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:12 (eighteen years ago)

long live da game? 24s/rubber band man actlly

― Chromski A.K. Gattlington, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

I'm Serious is a lot more like reasonable doubt

i dont think urban legend ever needed reassessing! It had mostly positive response

1 "Tha King" (Loftin/Harris/Simmons/Smith/McDaniels) 3:24
2 "Motivation" (Harris/Davis) 3:34
3 "U Don't Know Me" (Harris/Davis) 4:03
4 "ASAP" (Harris,/Holmes) 4:44
5 "Prayin For Help" (Harris/Wansel/Holmes/Biggs) 4:22

plus "What they do" and "My Life"

― deej, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

I'm Serious is a lot more like reasonable doubt

- to extrapolate further - first album, sells underwhelmingly, has some really lyrical tracks but musically its in a style that seems dated now

― deej, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

(i.e. neptunes party jams = isaac hayes & 7 mins of funk samples)

― deej, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

Urban Legend is kinda his worst album, though. I think part of the reason that King was welcomed with open arms and maybe a little overrated is simply that it isn't full of desperate, ill-fitting crossover attempts like UL was.

― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

and considering the clusterfuck of guests slated for T.I. Vs. T.I.P. (Timberlake, Nelly, Wyclef, Kanye, Akon), he might be making the same mistakes he made on Urban Legend.

― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

kanye didnt hurt trap muzik

― and what, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

and the joint with nelly on u.l. is 1 of my favs

― and what, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

im more scared about EMINEM being on it - wtf is that gonna sound like

― and what, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

kanye didnt hurt trap muzik

his first album wasn't even out yet!

― deej, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

barely a pop star, way more annoying now

― deej, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

yeah I know T.I.'s worked w/ some of those people before. but I mean, he actually said he regretted releasing "ASAP" as a single instead of the song with Nelly, so I'm not totally confident in his instincts. it's hard to blame him, though, he did him on King and had the biggest rap album of the year but still didn't go multi-plat, so he's probably really gunning for crossover numbers now.

― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

O NOES ITS GONNA SUCK BOO T.I. I HATE YOU NOW *desperately searches for new train to ride*

― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

LONG LIVE BROTHER ALI, NO SELL OUTS

― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

he needs to get t.i. vs t.i.p. exec produced by freddie foxxx and lil fame from mop

― and what, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

q: what do exec producers actually do? i thought that they just put up the money, kind of a vanity credit for whoever the exec was

― gff, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

executive producer will.i.am more like it VIVA OZOMATLI

― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

damn Matt don't get all Veronica Mars thread-style defensive on me, obviously I'm gonna buy the album and give Tip the benefit of the doubt. I'm just sayin', Wyclef!

― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

maybe shakira will join them!

― deej, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

(and yeah like Al of course i'm gonna check this)

― deej, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

verses from face, bun, tela, big gee, young buck, b.g., khujo goodie, all the usual grand hustle cats on a posse cut

beats from toomp, klc, daz, mike dean, pimp c, paul & juicy, sanchez, n.o. joe, alchemist, just blaze, maybe a nu-swizzy banger

― and what, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

ok that sounds awesome

― deej, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

dammit al don't start bringing my ILE TV threads into this or it will be on like nipples on a mannequin

― Dimension 5ive, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

the paul & juicy track samples some sad reggae shit

the joint with buck is a coke shipment storytelling joint

― and what, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

breaking new ground with that last one for sure

― strongohulkington, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.btcomm.com/trains/special_offers/hawthorne_trains/coke_train_header.jpg

― deej, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

The hook goes "Saaanta packs are comin, Saaanta packs are comin"

― deej, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

http://members.tripod.com/~junekc/Bears/familybears.jpg

― strongohulkington, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

adorable!

― strongohulkington, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

verses from face, bun, tela, big gee, young buck, b.g., khujo goodie, all the usual grand hustle cats on a posse cut

beats from toomp, klc, daz, mike dean, pimp c, paul & juicy, sanchez, n.o. joe, alchemist, just blaze, maybe a nu-swizzy banger

-- and what, Friday, May 4, 2007 11:01 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

maybe next time

― and what, Saturday, 31 May 2008 05:10 (seventeen years ago)

ugh please make this thread disappear

― The Reverend, Saturday, 31 May 2008 06:56 (seventeen years ago)

I am embarrassed for myself

― The Reverend, Saturday, 31 May 2008 06:56 (seventeen years ago)

I have heard I'm Serious since this thread tho. I like it, but his slightly less mature voice kinda throws me off a bit. I had the same problem when I first heard the first Outkast album after getting into them through later albums.

― The Reverend, Saturday, 31 May 2008 07:00 (seventeen years ago)

ah before my time :/

i would have voted trap muzik tho. also don't agree with shipley re: teh guests on urban legend. i think it all works out pretty well.

― J0rdan S., Saturday, 31 May 2008 08:22 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

cool thread -- don't remember reading it or posting to it -- i actually now think that 'i'm serious' is most lyrical!

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 April 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)

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