NY based Norwegian Producers Stargate work w/ Ne-yo, Beyonce, Rihanna, Europoppers -c/d

I hate them so much.

How many times can they re-use the same drums.

YES YES YES

saltine drums

lol, i just said that

like seriously I think they are the worst thing to happen to music in the past few years.

like, even when they have a great song ("Irreplaceable," "Because of You," "Spotlight") they just run it into the ground so much that it's not even worth it anymore.

I wonder if artists are specifically asking them for "a song that sounds exactly like 'irreplaceble'" or if they're just really lazy

yeah, i don't enjoy "irreplaceable" anywhere near as much as i did when it came out, and i think that's why.

they have a song on jazmine sullivan's album which kind of makes me want to puke, hopefully it doesn't have that same beat

The odd thing about Stargate's omnipresence at the moment is that for once it makes the US seem behind the 8-ball on R&B.

R&B clubs in Australia have always been dominated by this kinda sound - or more accurately by this and Dr. Dre circa 2001 and anything in between (see this for example, a massive hit in Australia about four years ago).

I've never minded it as a sound but it becomes kinda oppressive as the standard. The rise of stuff like "The Way I Are" over the past few years therefore hasn't been that striking in Australia - it was almost as if US producers were finally giving in to our local DJs' baser instincts.

OTOH, at its best it's almost unbeatable music for impromptu dancing in clubs/house parties/in the middle of shopping malls/etc.

This is probably my favourite uptempo Stargate production still.

Let's hope Stargate manage to kill R&B once and for all then.

Let's hope Al-Qaeda manage to kill you once and for all, you fucking Norwegian nonce.

Personally I think Stargate have lost the plot. Take A Bow, Closer, Irreplaceable...all bland broth, Cowell-friendly bollocks.

Weren't they even more Cowell-friendly back when they worked with Blue and S Club 7?

It's like Xenomania and Girls Aloud - when Stargate work with anyone other than Britney, it just doesn't work.

Well I have never liked them anyway. The pop work they did when they were UK based was kind of pointless in that they had no particular sound, no direction. Well, maybe apart from folkish harmonica tunes now and then.

As for now, their idea is good on paper for me, as they seemingly try to incorporate some melody into R&B. But they retain those annoying staccato beats, which makes it unlistenable anyway. The one they did for Lionel Richie was the worst rubbish I've ever heard from him. And I used to like Lionel Richie a lot.

Why does Lionel Richie need anyone else to write his songs? Has he run out of ideas?

the best recent stargate production (and not coincidentally the one which sounds least like all their other productions) is janet jackson's hugely overlooked '2nite'.

elsewhere their stuff is really dependent on a strong performance, or strong songwriting, to stand out, and a lot of the time they get this (j-hud, mimi on 'i'm that chick', 'irreplaceable' obv)

I like all of the four singles from the first Blue album, esp. the cover of "Too Close" and my eternal fave "If You Come Back".

Why does Lionel Richie need anyone else to write his songs?

Exactly my thougts too.

As for the best Stargate production, I would go for some of their Norwegian 90s work, like Multicyde's "Not For The Dough" or maybe some of the very early Stella Getz work back when they weren't even called Stargate yet.

"I like their early stuff better"

(Stax writers mostly didn't write any good songs though)

-- Geir Hongro, Monday, May 7, 2007 9:32 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

man, fuck this guy

Jay-Z & Stargate to form label

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003855147

Yeah I heard about this a week or so ago... My hatred of StarGate aside, I don't really think this is a good idea at all.. I feel like unless they switch their sound up StarGate's time is soon to be up. There are a bunch of better producers with good ears for talent that he could've partnered with....

I really think StarGate are a really good thing for RnB, I really like the thickness of the sound and the layered vocals, its really anachronistic, I haven't so much chart music in about five years as I am enjoying it now.

"All Rise" was very much influenced by 1999 Norwegian hit "One For The Dough" by Multicyde, which was built on a harmonica-tinged theme from a famous Norwegian 70s movie.

this is actually interesting

I really think StarGate are a really good thing for RnB, I really like the thickness of the sound and the layered vocals, its really anachronistic, I haven't so much chart music in about five years as I am enjoying it now.

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I was really hating on these dudes a year ago but I've really turned around back to liking them after "Don't Stop The Music" and "Spotlight" and the new Ne-Yo stuff.

I had to drag those smileys (smilies?) into the address bar to see what they were supposed to be!

I have picked up on your StarGate hatred, and I pretty much hate a lot of things they were doing a few years ago in UK chart music, but I think, yeah, post Please Don't Stop the Music, I've been way more interested in them, and this Ne-Yo album has really blown me away, I really don't recall when I was so excited by RnB, it feels like every couple of weeks now I hear a great new single, its starting to not even feel like an even anymore, and I think they are a lot responsible. Maybe when the Neptunes felt new was the last time....

Stargate have their share of boring shit, but they're cool by me.

Their shit all sounds the same to me: dull and repetitive. Like the co-haters have pointed out, they're bland and haven't really done anything for rnb besides make an already homogenous genre sound uninspired.

"already homogenous genre"

an already homogenous genre

god just die

calm down, Sparky

The current issue of the New Yorker has an article on Stargate:

THE SONG MACHINE: The hitmakers behind Rihanna.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/03/26/120326fa_fact_seabrook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvK2YetAic0

has anyone seen this

& if so where can i find it/is it mostly in english/etc.