"maybe there just ISN'T an american shocking blue."

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is this true? the question has been haunting me for a while now -- did shocking blue have an american equivalent? the closest i could come was CCR -- radio-ready party rock, very simple, shouty vocals and persistent beats, a little psych, a little country, a lot of rock, never letting "authenticity" get in the way of a good single, though CCR were definitely part of that strain of band/dead/byrds hippie americana. and CCR never had a "venus."

this is the thread where we unlock the mysteries of shocking blue. the thread title comes from elvis telecom, who said the above when we were discussing this last night. we were talking about their "foreignness," i guess, that weird '60s-'70s eurovision/abba sensibility that americans can't really understand even if they like it. this is a tough subject because it's easy to make condescending generalizations about other cultures and how they must have viewed the ascent of american/UK rock and pop when it was still a pretty new thing. i don't want to paint anyone as a clueless naif. holland had a GREAT psych scene, and it'd be wrong to belittle it by saying "furriners, aw bless," etc.

is there an american shocking blue, though?

get bent, Friday, 1 June 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

lemme throw this in the ring too: the mamas and the papas were the american abba.

get bent, Friday, 1 June 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

The Great Society (Grace Slick's pre-J.Airplane band) was reasonably close sound-wise to the Shocking Blue.

C. Grisso/McCain, Friday, 1 June 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

They don't have that little in common with later AOR acts such as Boston. Only technology had come a bit further by the mid 70s, which meant that generation had less rough edges.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 1 June 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

when i think of shocking blue, i think if the american wave of bubblegum/garage bands in the '60s. the music explosion "little bit o' soul," things like that. weren't the shocking blue kinda exactly of that generation?

fact checking cuz, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

There is a Turkish Shocking Blue, though. At least, there's a turkish language adaptation of "Send me a postcard" by Mavi Isiklar on the Turkish Delights singles compilation.

Trip Maker, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

wtf is up with people's obsession with the idea that every American or British act must have a transatlantic equivalent?

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

Dunno. But let's get back to talking about Dutch groups.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

Hahahahahahahaha I was confusing Shocking Blue with Pruss14n Blue for a second there and getting progressively baffleder.

HI DERE, Friday, 1 June 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

Well, how about the Velvet Underground with Nico. Sure, Nico was European.

moley, Friday, 1 June 2007 22:29 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I thought Great Society/Jefferson Airplane immediately, as soon as I saw the thread title.

xhuxk, Saturday, 2 June 2007 02:04 (eighteen years ago)

eighteen years pass...

Wow, I didn't remember that there was a SPECIFIC thread about this, but it was something I was actually thinking about today. Hackamore Brick maybe, but Robbie was really a world class guitar player.

timellison, Sunday, 15 February 2026 22:03 (two weeks ago)

Yeah or maybe Crabby Appleton?

Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Monday, 16 February 2026 15:52 (one week ago)

Folk/psych rockers Michaelangelo, who put out one record on Columbia called "One Voice Many," also kind of have this vibe

Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Monday, 16 February 2026 15:58 (one week ago)

The rhythm guitar playing, in particular, in Shocking Blue is what makes me ask this question and I think what makes them interesting to situate in the early 70s. It's distinctly not heavy, but very rhythmic. fact checking cuz likening them above to US bubblegum from that time is, I think, right and that's why I would also bring up Hackamore Brick and particularly something like "Oh Those Sweet Bananas" or maybe "Zip Gun Woman."

timellison, Monday, 16 February 2026 22:57 (one week ago)

or Vanity Fair's "Taking A Ride" now that I see this thread

sleeve, Monday, 16 February 2026 23:23 (one week ago)

Yeah! That's the Shocking Blue groove for sure, maybe a little more ska?

timellison, Tuesday, 17 February 2026 00:22 (one week ago)

Even has the Venus riff at the end.

timellison, Tuesday, 17 February 2026 00:25 (one week ago)

Always loved that they use that in other songs too, like Never Marry a Railroad Man.

timellison, Tuesday, 17 February 2026 00:26 (one week ago)

An American equivalent of Shocking Blue would also have to bring in something from another country or culture's music---so in terms of fun party pop-rock that is a little psych, a little country, a lot of rock, never letting "authenticity" get in the way of a good single,wh, and knows how to work the cultural difference, I nominate Alex Chilton, when he's covering Italian pop along w pre-Big Star Memphis soda shop jukebox faves and Big Star and whatever, especially but not only live.

dow, Tuesday, 17 February 2026 02:22 (one week ago)

(And yknow sometimes post Big Star he still covered T.Rex's "Baby Strange" and Kinks' "Till The End of the Day," and maybe the VU too.)

dow, Tuesday, 17 February 2026 02:28 (one week ago)

Nine Dutch top ten hits, fourteen top twenty.

timellison, Friday, 20 February 2026 04:37 (one week ago)

...The Doors?

Come On, (Eazy), Friday, 20 February 2026 05:49 (one week ago)

I don't know about the US, but I think there was a lot of music that sounded similar in the UK, sort of bubblegum-y CCR, it's almost the sound of 1970.

Schlub 7 (Tom D.), Friday, 20 February 2026 08:19 (one week ago)

Yeah, “Love Grows Where My Rosemary Goes” is very much like a Shocking Blue groove! What else, Tom?

timellison, Friday, 20 February 2026 14:52 (one week ago)

"Yellow River" by Christie for one.

Schlub 7 (Tom D.), Friday, 20 February 2026 15:05 (one week ago)

Totally

timellison, Friday, 20 February 2026 16:13 (one week ago)


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