musique concrete 2000

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is there's still a place for this exciting breed of art popped out in france? in a way it seems that the seriousness of academic torpidity from a side and the emergence of new electronic artists whose strategies include acousmatic methods have killed m.c. oddly enough I still prefer lionel marchetti and alain de filippis to any matmos or disc.

francesco, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Rather predictably, I shall say I see no reason why the two cannot coexist in 2002. Which they do. (See also the various electroclash threads and the (IMO) false oppositions at least one poster tried to create there)

I'm ashamed to say I had to look up 'acousmatic'. I found an answer here.

Jeff W, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bernard Parmegiani performed some great stuff at the Rien a voir electroacoustic festival on Sunday night. Jonty Harrison did some good stuff too Saturday night.

sundar subramanian, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah jeff they co-exist and I'm happy for this.I'm also happy for the consumer recording technology that got experiments with ambient sounds out of the sacred laboratories of ircam or,say, grm. But this co-existence is creating questions: is there a role for "classic" musique concrete? I thinks there are loads of interesting artists on labels as intransitive or others that are not strictly linked with academy but are also far away from the messy glitchy trend that unfortunately hasn't produced all the interesting things everybody was hoping for....

francesco, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

is there's still a place for this exciting breed of art popped out in france?

there is still plenty of stuff you could fairly describe as musique concrete around on labels like metamkine, selektion, corpus hermeticum (they did a marchetti/noetinger/werchowski live cd that is just amazing), alga marghen, fractal, unique ancient tavern, etc...

just because people like matmos and the mego label borrow some of the concepts for their work doesn't mean that musique concrete is irrelevant - just means that those concepts (exploration of pure sound, grain, time) were sound. i'm hoping that the academics become aware of the newer forms and it might inspire them to come up with some less serious, process-obsessed works (back to luc ferrari and pierre henry's late 60s/early 70s stuff, maybe) and maybe appeal to the many people who don't really care about what piece of INA-GRM software they're using...

your null fame, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

metamkine, selektion, corpus hermeticum (they did a marchetti/noetinger/werchowski live cd that is just amazing), alga marghen, fractal, unique ancient tavern, etc truetruetrue... that record is so fine! these are excellent record labels that are working at the margins of a wide range of music genres and are certainly out of the academy orbit.

francesco, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It has a role, francesco, but for me it's pretty much the same role that all music has. In truth, I was (am) just trying to pre-empt a re- run of this thread. Seems far more interesting to me to make connections than draw distinctions, to perhaps prove a simbiotic relationship between these seemingly different artists (see also: sleevenotes to Rough Trade Shops Electronic 01).

Jeff W, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is there really an electroacoustic label called Unique Ancient Tavern?

Momus, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yes it's a los angeles based record label! with a weird and mystic aesthetics rooted in the will to play ordinary objects or places. oversimplifying. don't feel completely comfortable with their catalogue but it's worth a look. cute name isn'it. p.s. brandon la belle's live are funny and intersting:I've watched this guy blowing in a paper bag with contact mics for half an hour, the sound was amplified with loudspeakers and played in a big space where he had put other mics. the end result was ,at least; interesting.

francesco, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three years pass...
just got this loooooovely 3x3" cdbox from Lionel Marchetti, called Red Dust. The packaging is delightful! It's a little red cardboard box with 3 discs in it and 5 little cards that mention the instruments used etc.

rizzx (Rizz), Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)


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