Unknown influences

Nick, that was in response to a question I asked him!

The tracks being "Dia 36" off the second Mutantes album, and "White Noise Revisited" off Giant Steps.

Check 'em out!

Of course we've just got Mr Carr's word for that.

JtN told me that Nick Nicely's 'Hilly Fields' from 1982 clearly inspired The Shortwave Set to do much of what they do, without them having ever heard of it.

Well, perhaps but it seems to ring true.

As I say (elsewhere on the intweb), everything I was trying to do with music, one day I bought that album and found the Boo Radleys had already (just) done it.

Of course, you always want to feel your musical heroes are tapped into pure musical influences the like of which us mortals have limited access to.

But, seeing as how the albums were only (re)issued in the UK/USA about five or six years ago, he must only have heard them when we all did.

(that was xpost to Marc, obv)

time's not a straight line. it's more like a ball of stuff. timey wimey stuff.

squirrel and g-man --- dancing in your head

glad there's a boos revival going on on ILX! Now can we lobby for a yummy 2-disk giant steps reissue with extras (if there are any?)

There was extras on a website giving live tracks and demos, a couple years ago.

interesting, but not diverting.

they weren't very good though, were they. in retrospect that one that sounded like a breakfast show tv theme that everyone hated and said they'd sold out doesn't really sound that different from the other stuff

I recall a Doolittle-era interview with the Pixies where Francis mentioned he was just now finding out about the Birthday Party.

<i>they weren't very good though, were they. in retrospect that one that sounded like a breakfast show tv theme that everyone hated and said they'd sold out doesn't really sound that different from the other stuff

-- 696, Monday, 11 June 2007 11:19 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Link</i>

get out!

actually i'm surprised you don't like them...

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To be fair, "Wake Up Boo" isn't a million miles from the theme to the JY Prog.

whats jy prog?

and in any case, ain't what we're discussing here.

xpost What's the recipe today, Marcello?

wake up boo was a good song, but it got played way way too much. it was martin sitting down and saying to himself "ok i'm going to write a 12-song album and see if i can get to number one with it" so in a strange way it was more experimental than his experimental stuff. the only problem was, the experiment worked and "wake up boo" became a bit of a downfall.

and, no it wasn't that different from the previous stuff. the "wake up!" album is more or less just a more compact and less sprawling follow up to giant steps. but really giant steps is THE 90s answer to Os Mutantes' first album and the Beach Boys' Smile, etc.

they weren't very good though

No, they weren't

but really giant steps is THE 90s answer to Os Mutantes' first album and the Beach Boys' Smile, etc.

LOL

Well, LOL @ Smile comparison

Ar-har I shall be talking to Norman Lamont shortly, but before that here's "Lazarus" performed by Alyn Ainsworth and the BBC Northern Dance Orchestra you see.

Why LOL, Tom D?

Isn't Alec Ounsworth of Clap Your Hands Say Yeah known to have said he never listened to any of the bands they always get compared to?

these aren't really unknown influences so much as cases of projection on the part of journalists (and it happens all the time)

ahem - Secret Influences

I like the idea of a Pierre Menard type situation where someone unwittingly and unknowingly records an album of covers of songs they've NEVER HEARD BEFORE and which they think they've written themselves.

I am pretty sure Blur never heard of Norwegian early 90s popsters Pogo Pops, but their mid 90s work sounds a lot like them. Probably because both were influenced by XTC and The Kinks :)

i guess i need to hear some boo radleys then

Voivod was mentioned earlier in a different context, but I find it interesting how Killing Technology and die Kreuzen's second, October File sound so synchronic.

Both bands were coming from different scenes, different sounds, and would diverge again later, but on those records--recorded within a year of each other--they sound as if they were working together, or cross-pollinating.

I guess this might not have been a happy accident, but I've always enjoyed believing that it was.

some of these post-killers/interpol type bands sound a hell of a lot like u2 but i suspect they arrived there by accident

there are a lot of bands that inadvertantly sound like crap

an otm HOOS

I'm not too familiar with the White Stripes, but that Icky Thump (do they do the Icky Shuffle in the video) sounds a shitload like Ted Nugent.