neil young

oh shit decade

and #s of boots. sorry gang. read my lips, vote dead man

After The Gold Rush.

but On The Beach too. the title song makes me cry.

I voted Time Fades Away

this was already done.
Best of Neil Young studio records

This one has live albums.

Some of them, anyway. (Unplugged, Year of the Horse, Road Rock vol. 1)

Oh. The studio albums poll had the live albums too. Nevermind then.

I voted Ragged Glory because it needs more love and less rockism. That's a srsly good record, yo.

First person to vote "Old Ways" gets a dollar from me.

I voted for "Old Ways" just for the cash. You want my paypal address?

After The Gold Rush = the good songs are so good they make you forget about the bad ones

On The Beach = pretty much all good

I mean "When You Dance" is kind of endearing as a cornily sincere, b-level hippie artifact, but Cripple Creek Ferry is a real turd of a song, and Birds isn't great either.

I got to get away from this day to day running around

TRANS FTW!

Arc/Weld. The worst/best live albums ever.

Dead Man is actually really really good.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Tonight's The Night

closely followed by Goldrush and On The Beach

TTN is definitely my favourite - it's so fucked, so moving. Tender, ragged and rocking in equal measure.

Baby Mellow My Mind aches so hard - the swell of pedal steel, touch of lonesome barroom piano, and Neil's voice actually breaking up.

Come On Baby Let's Go Downtown rocks. It sounds so triumphant in its hedonism yet the undercurrent is utterly bleak.

Other favourites - Everybody Knows, Rust, Zuma, Time Fades Away, Sleeps With Angels, Live Rust. Hell, there hardly any poor ones. I've not heard the infamous Landing On Water, but Are You Passionate was bloody awful. Trans is ace though.

Ragged Glory is great fun, one of his most satisfying rock records, but I wouldn't quite put it in the top rung of Neil albums.

Harvest - handful of great songs and some dreary stuff too. Overall, it's too slick, too polite. I like Neil a little scuffed around the edges.

Rust Never Sleeps has Powderfinger, for the win.

Anyone else notice how Apatow kept dropping the cover of Landing On Water all over Knocked Up. What's the deal with that? Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

Rust Never Sleeps for "Powderfinger", but also because of the individually peculiar time and place in which I first loved this record. Also, it's an incredibly balanced album in so many ways I can't be bothered to expand on here.

Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

I noticed the curious product placement too, Tal. There's an interesting thread here devoted to Landing on Water.

no "none of the above"????

just snuck in a vote for tonight's the night. right in the nick of time.

emotion of the less contained and calculated variety

me for tonights the night, too. its so close though - there are better songs on zuma and everybody knows, and almost enough to give the nod to one of them, but TTN takes it

Yeah, Tonight's The Night would be my second or third and very close.

Rust Never Sleeps by a hair, for side one and Powderfinger alone (though nearly sunk by Welfare Mothers).

Oh c'mon, Welfare Mothers is great! My favorite Neil Young throwaway.

DIVORCEE

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

a 3-way tie this time then.

Fair result.

Wait. Zuma should've been much higher, though.

c'est vrai

Someone voted for Everybody's Rockin' again.

One vote for "Zuma"! No way!! This poll is corrupt!!!

"On the Beach" - there's an ILM album if ever there was one

Sleeps With Angels is way too high. And Freedom is way too low.

The fact that Zuma ranked below Trans completely invalidates this poll.

So, basically, I'm the only person who voted for "Zuma"? Don't believe it.

I wasn't around when CSN(and sometimes Y) were at their peak, so apologies for the following somewhat naive question:

How much of Neil Young's popularity in the 70s can be attributed to his association with CSN? The thought never really occurred to me until I was checking out CSN(Y)'s Allmusic entry today, which says "it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles".

Personally, I like Neil Young exponentially more than CSN(Y), so my gut feeling is that the majority of Neil Young's fans were there on account of his own talent. But was there a certain contingency of fans who cheered loudest for "Ohio" and "Helpless", contemplating to themselves at the Live Rust concerts that it would be better if CSN were up on stage too? Or was it more like "Why the hell does Neil Young ever play with them? They butchered 'Helpless'..."? Just wondering what the prevalent view was back in the day.

When CSN and sometimes Y reunited for a predictably horrible album in 1988, Neil begged off the obligatory tour, saying, "I dunno man, those guys need some serious practice."

And that Allmusic statement strikes me as comically absurd.

Yeah, I admit it raised my eyebrow as well, but then I go the ILM search function, and the second thing I read on the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young C/D S/D thread is "i'm more interested in the fact that CSN(Y) (or whatever) were actually REALLY POPULAR and BIG -- as in springsteen in '85/outkast or britney spears BIG. that's such a radical sea-change in mass public musical taste that deserves some comment, no?"

On The Beach is very good, but would have voted Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, in fact i shall play it now

hi alex, how is the weather in denver? in frankfurt it has been raining most of the day. i would have voted <i>after the goldrush</i>, i think. but <i>on the beach</i> is a decent winner, too.

i will never learn the ilm html tags...

weird

it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles

In their time their American album sales were HUGE. Their cultural cachet was such that their public greeted "Ohio" as a major statement. I'm wary of statements like AllMusic's, but the Shakey bio also makes the same suggestion.

CSNY were huge because the Byrds, the Hollies, and the Buffalo Springfield had all been huge before.

The best way to join Crazy Horse is not learn any of the songs and just have Neil tell you the chords as the curtain goes up

Cortez: I know the missing lyrics are in a book somewhere as "I ate that ocean wave" but I distinctly hear "thousand" in there (at 11:47 ) :-/

+ this isn't the first time new lyrics were added to Cortez, look:

https://www.sugarmtn.org/sm_lyrics.php?song=112

I really hate the bowdlerization of the album title btw. The original song on Ragged Glory is printed as "F*!#in' Up"; they should have gone with that.

If they were going to change it, it really ought to have been modernised in some way, e.g. F😜💩in Up!!!! 🤪

eggplant - peach, surely.

so weird to see neil back on spotify! i gotta admit i will be listening to him a bunch more in the car now

(i drive a sedan delivery vehicle)

I really hate the bowdlerization of the album title btw. The original song on Ragged Glory is printed as "F*!#in' Up"; they should have gone with that.
If they were going to change it, it really ought to have been modernised in some way, e.g. F😜💩in Up!!!! 🤪

― Keith, Friday, April 26, 2024 12:57 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Imagine seeing the tracklisting back when the album was originally released and doing the “gee willikers, I wonder what that song is. Maybe it’s ‘Fartin’ Up’?”

I've got like 30 plus meal releases on vinyl, looking to add to it because why not. Out of releases from recent years, I've got hitchhiker, homegrown, songs for judy, tuscaloosa, TTN at the Roxy, rust bucket, Young shakespeare, citizen Kane Jr, Barn, Colorado. What should I prioritize next wrt rcent studio albums, official bootlegs, live releases...

Got to see him here in phx last night. Encore was Danger Bird!

New album sounds like a soundboard bootleg - is it? - and I'm all about it. The Horse marches on!

Kind of, I assume:

The album was recorded at a private birthday party held at the Rivoli in Toronto, Canada on November 4, 2023.

Surely the internet has identified the birthday girl or boy in TO?

it was the CEO of Canada Goose clothing, who is apparently one of the richest people in Canada

ain't singing for Pepsi, am singing for goose

Ahem

"Ain't singin' for Pepsi, ain't singin' for Coke
I will sing for Canada Goose, 'cause goddamn those are some nice coats"

― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, November 13, 2023 3:58 PM (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink

I humbly apologize for badly redoing the same thing, months later :-(

That's ok. It's a pretty obvious connection/joke.

Saw Young & Crazy Horse tonight @ the huge Jiffy Lube Amphitheatre in Virginia 40 minutes or so from Washington DC. Nice rocking version of Powderfinger with the band, and tuneful takes of "I am a Child" and "Helpless" solo

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/neil-young-and-crazy-horse/2024/jiffy-lube-live-bristow-va-7bab9a4c.html

I was there. Fantastic show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAXvSd118Ko

US Secretary of State Blinken playing “Rockin in a Free World “ on guitar with a bar band in Ukraine, and then Neil Young adding that song as an encore in US had Young trending a bit on Twitter x.

i was there for that encore last night and i confess the name antony blinken did not cross my mind. pretty much exactly as great as so many other crazy horse shows i've seen thru the decades. that man and that band are miracles of nature. a little more low-end noise and feedback than usual, maybe, and they had to power through some annoying sound system glitches in the final 20 minutes, which they did with zen-like grace. neil miming and playing acoustic air guitar during the first breakdown was adorable. damn that version of "sedan delivery" during the encore -- ragged glory, as it were. and "vampire blues," hell yeah.

i was there too. was very pleasantly surprised to hear "vampire blues." bold move to start your show with the best song ever ("cortez the killer"), but he pulls it off.

one of my favorite moments was when the mic wasn't working so he thanked the crowd by shouting into his les paul pickups

thanked the crowd by shouting into his les paul pickups

oh yes that was great

i almost forgot about the organ dangling from the scaffolding for "like a hurricane." that was cool and amusing.

that was the only song that used the organ and it hung by the horse's head for the whole show

i was checking resale tickets for tonight's show but the price and for standing in the rain had me make other plans. obviously regretting it.

I heard tonight's show was supposed to be much better than last night's. Video for last night's is up FWIW:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcan_ANPenk

FWIW, here's them in 2012, and I was at this show, about the same distance away too but in the center. They still sound great but seeing how much they've aged, I feel like this could be the last time they play NYC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23FrtI9lENE

yeah, that was a big factor. i've only seen NY/CH once and it was on the absurd greendale tour but from the videos i've seen i may just have to settle for that.

i was there too on tuesday. the best part of the PA outage was when they cranked up the stage amps and tore into "hey hey, my my." direct from neil's amp to my ears.

his voice sounds better live (in the 2024 video) than it does on that ragged glory redo

love that video of tuesday's show. good to hear "hey hey my my" from someone who was close enough to hear it right from the amps.

i was trying to figure out how neil would cue the halftime parts on "sedan delivery," seems like he just gives ralph a look and boom, it slows down. it always takes billy and the guitar player a second to catch up haha

Looking into seeing him next week, cheapest tickets I saw were $205. Not my favorite venue in the area and the timing would suck due to other commitments, so don't think it'll happen. Just crazy to think it would cost me more to see Neil than what I paid to see Dead & Co. at the Sphere.

good to hear "hey hey my my" from someone who was close enough to hear it right from the amps.

i was way up in the bleachers but the sound was reaching me all the way up there. not with the clarity of the PA, but i could immediately identify the song. it was like seeing the beatles! (who also played the forest hills stadium once, iirc.)

120 bucks in OR for lawn GA. far less than i was expecting and i didn't have to fight scalpers or bots really

At show I was at Neil didn’t let them use video screens, but it looks like they were used at his New Orleans Jazz Fest gig .

Is it crazy to think it would cost more to see NEIL YOUNG than phish? Is it crazy?

(not excusing the shitty ticket prices here, but come on son)

i've now realised where you wrote Dead & Co, I read phish. still.... point stands

Eh, my point was more the venue than the band really, the Sphere was an expensive ass thing to build and with all the hype I feel like they could have justified a higher price point. If it was any other bog standard venue, I would naturally expect Neil to cost more. But this specific event/venue did surprise me (and I understand your main point is more a dig at the relative quality of the music, which I don't disagree with, but I also think my point still stands).

i was way up in the bleachers but the sound was reaching me all the way up there. not with the clarity of the PA, but i could immediately identify the song. it was like seeing the beatles! (who also played the forest hills stadium once, iirc.)

― Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, May 16, 2024 11:00 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes i could hear too! but the p.a. was cutting in and out, which was distracting

At show I was at Neil didn’t let them use video screens, but it looks like they were used at his New Orleans Jazz Fest gig .

― curmudgeon, Thursday, May 16, 2024 9:46 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah i was bummed about this at the phx show, they really just way out there and you dont see any of the guitar faces or band interactions or pickup switching or expressions. i enjoyed the show but it couldve been way better with the screens on.

When I saw him in 2012, I was genuinely surprised that he was still using as stage decor the giant amps from the Rust-era. I knew he used them for the Ragged Glory tour preserved on Weld, but I hadn't seen any video or pictures of recent shows, just audio from a ton of bootlegs, so it was actually a pleasant surprise for me. From a certain distance it probably looks hilarious if you're not jaded by it - tiny Crazy Horse rocking out among the amps - but I can see how it's a drag if it supplants any screens that would've been helpful.

I saw him in 2001 and there were no giant amps that I recall - but in 2013 he had all the giant stage props and istr scientists with clipboards and lab coats scurrying around! really appreciated the dumbness of it!

2001 had a fantastic setlist of all the songs you'd want them to play but 2013 was the better show for me - the psychedelic pill material really gave the set purpose and cohesion

So they just dropped "Everybody's Alone" on streaming as a single with a vintage black & white cover pic of the Whitten-era band with the title "Early Daze"...

Facebook banner describes it as a "Historic Collection of Early Recordings from 1969" and it's out via Reprise on June 28th.

A bit more information here:

https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/neil-young-and-crazy-horse-early-daze/

Very excited to see them in a few days, along with my dad. Will be my first time seeing Neil, his second - the first was at Woodstock. Was thinking about that yesterday and getting really tripped out about it, wondering if I'll be lucky enough to see 2 shows by the same artist 55 years apart, the mind reels