Try to convince haters with just one download

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I already know this is ill-conceived, but perhaps the thread will prove its worth others' contributions. My suggestion is http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=507102 .

dean ge, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

^ "via" others' contributions...

dean ge, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

"*With Steve-O from New Orleans on washboard."

NOT CONVINCED

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

Man I used to be really really into Phish. I don't know why I lost interest, but I never play any of their records or the two dozen bootlegs I still have.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

This one and Amy's Farm are the ones I always really enjoy. They actually sound like some sort of unknown band from the 70s. The sound is very different from every bootleg I've heard. Maybe different amplifiers or different soundboard settings? The performance is definitely not lagging or tinkering. I think I consider this the "definitive" recording of songs that never made it on an album. Better than the Volume 9 '89 release, anyway, which Rolling Stone rated the best of the Live Phish series.

dean ge, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

Oh I know what it is! The Giant Country Horns make most of these songs totally different. But, the guitar sounds way different, too.

dean ge, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

con trived (kuhn-trahyvd) adj : obviously planned or forced; artificial; strained

Please. I went to UVM for four years... Ate in the cafeteria they played their first show... Saw them live at Higherground for $15 with 50 other people... Through numerous relationships and friday night sessions I was forced to listen to more bootlegs than any normal human being should endure...

NOTHING can convince me that they are not just a wanna-be Grateful Dead a decade too late.

MaGoGo, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 23:13 (eighteen years ago)

You'd think their enormous grassroots success would convince anyone they were "right on time." But, you seem to enjoy speculative fantasy, so I can understand your position.

dean ge, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

I had a few of their albums back in the mid 90s. Then the drugs wore off.

(Actually, I always hated their lyrics and singing, and finally realized that the instrumentals were pretty feeble and cliched compared to the jazz I was already listening to.)

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

Well, if you haven't downloaded the above, then you really aren't playing along now, are you?

dean ge, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

I suppose not. But I'm at work, so perhaps later.

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

I understand hating the lyrics and singing but the remark about finally realizing their instrumentals were feeble and cliched...? At one point were you enjoying their instrumentals? I've downloaded just about every good jazz album emusic offers and none of it has interfered with my enjoyment of You Enjoy Myself. It's actually not really the same type of music.

dean ge, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

I don't deny that they have chops, but their jams and solos don't engage me for more than a couple of listens, if that. Obviously I can't speak for you or anyone else, but what I got out of them was gotten in a stronger, more interesting form by listening to jazz. I know what you mean by them not being the same type of music, but for me 'jam-rock' and small group jazz aren't so different that I listen to them in entirely dissimilar ways.

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

I have a similar feeling, but I think it's due to the bootlegs. I've just about worn out ALL of my jammy type music at the moment thanks to bootlegs. That's why when I dug out this old one, I said, "Ah! Now, that's what I liked about Phish!"

Bootlegs are sort of a mixed blessing. You get to hear much different and many different versions of any song, but you end up hearing the songs way more times than you would if you just had one album. The other day, I was checking out 4 different low-priced Dick's Picks and sadly realized that I had thoroughly mined what once seem like inexhaustible riches.

dean ge, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

My friends and i were obsessed with the GCH shows. Among the many reasons I stopped following Phish back in 2000 was they just never brought the horns back. I saw them once with the sax player from Dave Matthews or something, but it wasn't the same. Had I been them, after hearing how great Arrowhead sounded, I would have added a full horn section to the line-up permanently. And I never would have started freebasing either.

Phish + Horns - hard drugs = GOOD TIMES!

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

I feel exactly the same way. They should've become a bigger spectacle as they went along, not less. I am a big fan of horns in rock music.

dean ge, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

... and what does Mr. Heroin user do when he breaks up Phish? Goes straight for the horns! Horns up the ass! What a dick!

dean ge, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)


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