Krishna-Core: What was that all about?

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I was faintly aware of this oddball 80s(?)/90s phenomenon while it was happening, but I was just thinking about it recently and it seemed so incredibly strange.

Did anyone here ever go to Krishna Hardcore shows? Shelter, 108, etc.? Did anyone know people in that scene? People whose lives were ruined when Ray Cappo drank wine in Italy or whatever, or got Krishna tattoos? Does this scene still exist?

Ben Boyerrr, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

Other people's religion = oddball

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

Mantra was a good album.

jim, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

Really Whiney? A strawman for the first response?

Ben Boyerrr, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

Equal Vision Records is still going pretty strong

DJ Mencap, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

Really Whiney? A strawman for the first response?

-- Ben Boyerrr, Monday, June 25, 2007 3:15 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

It was really just a set-up for someone to go "other people's oddball religion = oddball"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

Also, 108 just put out another album.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

it is somewhat strange - I think the chain of reference was punks who became vegetarians who ran across Iskcon people and were attracted to the austerities of the Vaisnava teachings who then sorta mix-n-matched on those (punk = self-expression without limits, theoretically, or at least "as it's understood by many of its participants; punks who've become Vaisnavas = express their Vaisnavism through punk rock)

musically both Shelter and 108 are kinda good if you go in for the early nineties sludgy-doomy vibe, which I do, and if you get a charge out of people who're totally immersed in whatever it is they're into, which I also do.

Worth saying that the guy who cites "people whose lives were ruined when Ray Cappo drank wine" is a guy who doesn't get to then bitch about other people raising strawmen eh wot

J0hn D., Monday, 25 June 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

I saw Shelter once.

One of kirshna-core's primary breeding grounds was the East Village in the late 80s. Its seems to make sense on some level. Like hippies finding Jesus in the early 70s, straight edge kids digging Youth of Today, Revelation, and Positive Force Records find religion (while other hardcore dudes descend into drugs and booze).

QuantumNoise, Monday, 25 June 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

re: "people whose lives were ruined when Ray Cappo drank wine" ,
There wasn't a flicker of judgement from me there - I was quoting directly from one of the old hardcore threads I was reading. More to the point, I didn't even know who Ray Cappo WAS when I typed that (I've been reading about this stuff for the last hour, having previously only been faintly aware of it, and that was an anecdote that kept being alluded to vaguely in the pieces I was looking at). It wasn't intended as being flippant about people devoted to straight edge or anything like that, so apologies if it came off that way.

I was just wondering if anyone had any personal experiences with this scene why because it look intersting. It was poor form to even use the word "oddball," even though I was referring to the seemingly unlikely mix of hardcore music and this religion that is often reduced to a punchline.

Fucking hell, ILM can be exhausting sometimes.

(x-post; thanks QuantumNoise)

Ben Boyerrr, Monday, 25 June 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2527/cromagsbestwishesfrontha9.jpg

scott seward, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

i saw 108 live, they were good

am0n, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

straightedge to krsna ain't that much of a leap.

scott seward, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

Fucking hell, ILM can be exhausting sometimes.

haha, well I knew what you meant. Cro-Mags (face value) + Hare Krishna (face value) = oddball union.

Next time you go and make a brief first in order to catch everyone's interest, make sure to tag on another 2,3 paragraphs of every whichaway ass-coverage. There's a word for those prefatory ass-covering remarks, but I forget what it is.

dean ge, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

i had forgotten until the other day that i saw shelter on their first tour, whenever the hell that was.

hstencil, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

I saw Ray Cappo giving a reading of his lyrics Rollins-style in The Hague once

it was exactly like you think it was

J0hn D., Monday, 25 June 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

awful?

am0n, Monday, 25 June 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)


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